Famous Persons Of The Middle Ages In MTW 2.

:dizzy2: Do the following persons show up at all in Single Player Campaign Mode?


-Vlad Tepes (The Impaler, aka Dracula.)
-Bohemond (The famous Norman General of the First Crusade.)
-El Cid



The reason I ask is that when I unlock the Byzantines finally, I would like to try to bribe at least one of them into the Byzantine millitary (especially if Bohemond shows up during the years 1095-1096 like he did in the history books, all though, he lead an earlier attack on Byzantium earlier in the 1080's as well). I often wondered how different history would've been if Byzantium had succeeded in buying off Bohemond and came to his aid at Antioch, forcing him to uphold his oath of fealty. Plus, to add a twist, if the Emporer had married him to Anna Commena, who in turn would attempt a coup on the next emporer in the early 1100's. Anyone who read on Bohemond knows that he seeked gold and land during his life and tried to marry into money (which he did by marrying a daughter of the King of France, Phillip The Fat, I think). It would not take a strech of the imagination to imagine him marrying into Byzantine royalty instead of the court of France. Plus, if things had gone different, who's to say that he and Anna had not ended up sharing the Byzantine crown? However, this is just sheer speculation. :dizzy2:

El Cid is the general at the garison in Valencia down in Spain. Pretty decent garrison there too almost a half a stack.

I suppose El Cid would make a good second place prize. How hard is he to bribe? So far, all of my attempts at bribery in my HRE Campaign have failed outright. :(

I had Vlad Tepes.

El Cid is in a castle when the game starts.

Bohemond... he's not an ancillary that I know of and I have not seen him on the map- don't know.

El Cid is practically impossible to bribe... If you search on his name you shold find a thread where a guy did the impossible and got him. I will not tell how, but it was not easy.

Vlad the Impaler is certainly in. He is a nasty ancilliary you can get, adds a lot of Dread and bonus against Muslims. I wonder why... He is not easy to get though.

Bohemond is not in I think. A shame really. One wuold expect him to be part of the Sicily faction, or at least an ancilliary to be found in southern Italy and Sicily.

What other historical players are there and is there a file that has them listed and when they appear?

Yes, the ancilliary file has them all listed...

I'm sorry to hear about Bohemond not being in the game. I hate to show my lack of computer knowledge here, but how do you get to the ancillary file?

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Originally Posted by Kraxis

El Cid is practically impossible to bribe... If you search on his name you shold find a thread where a guy did the impossible and got him. I will not tell how, but it was not easy.

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I never managed to bribe him either.

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Vlad the Impaler is certainly in. He is a nasty ancilliary you can get, adds a lot of Dread and bonus against Muslims. I wonder why... He is not easy to get though.

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A bonus against Muslims makes sense. As a Prince of Wallachia, Vlad held back the expansion of the Ottoman Empire... they were his sworn enemies. He was also imprisoned as a political hostage by the Ottomans when he was young, and the legend has it that he picked up his taste for cruelty and torture as a result of that experience.

I think the guy cheated to bribe El Cid. He's married and in a settlement. This is super hard. I think that person moved him out of the settlement and added traits to El Cid to make it easier as well as making an uber diplomat.

If he was unmarried, marrying a princess to him would be an ideal solution (esp. since the Spanish start with 2).

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Originally Posted by Zenicetus

A bonus against Muslims makes sense. As a Prince of Wallachia, Vlad held back the expansion of the Ottoman Empire... they were his sworn enemies. He was also imprisoned as a political hostage by the Ottomans when he was young, and the legend has it that he picked up his taste for cruelty and torture as a result of that experience.

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Ok perhaps a smiley would have helped. I was being ironic.

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Originally Posted by Kraxis

Ok perhaps a smiley would have helped. I was being ironic.

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Sorry, that was something I wasn't aware of myself until fairly recently. I should have known that folks here would know more about Vlad Tepes than the vampire myths.

One of the things I want to do at some point in M2TW is try role-playing a Hungarian campaign as Vlad; holding off or conquering the Byzantines and Turks, and of course aiming for high dread ratings with all generals. It's a bit off-putting that he's in the game as an ancillary instead of a family member, but maybe that's better anyway, since you can't control lines of inheritance or family member names. If he shows up as an ancillary I'll just pretend he's a body double to confuse assassins... yeah, that's it.

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Originally Posted by Varangian Berserker

I'm sorry to hear about Bohemond not being in the game. I hate to show my lack of computer knowledge here, but how do you get to the ancillary file?

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Either use the unpacker to unpack all files, and then search for the export_descr_ancillaries.txt file, or just download the Data text files (the links is in a topic in the Learning To Mod forum IIRC), and then look for that file.


This is the list of famous ancillaries in MTW2:

Ancillary sir_william_wallace
Type Military
Transferable 0
Image warrior_berserker.tga
Unique
ExcludeCultures eastern_european, southern_european, greek, mesoamerican
Description sir_william_wallace_desc
EffectsDescription sir_william_wallace_effects_desc
Effect Chivalry 1
Effect Command 1
Effect Authority 1
Effect TroopMorale 2
Effect Combat_V_Faction_England 3

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary joan_of_arc
Type Military
Transferable 0
Image sex_cheapwoman.tga
Unique
Description joan_of_arc_desc
EffectsDescription joan_of_arc_effects_desc
Effect Piety 2
Effect Command 1
Effect TroopMorale 2
Effect Combat_V_Faction_England 2

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary peter_the_hermit
Type Religion
Transferable 0
Image religious_monk.tga
Unique
Description peter_the_hermit_desc
EffectsDescription peter_the_hermit_effects_desc
Effect LocalPopularity 2
Effect Squalor -2

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary bertrand_du_guesclin
Type Military
Transferable 0
Image knight_chivalrous.tga
Unique
Description bertrand_du_guesclin_desc
EffectsDescription bertrand_du_guesclin_effects_desc
Effect Command 2
Effect TroopMorale 2
Effect Combat_V_Faction_England 2
Effect Combat_V_Faction_Portugal 1
Effect Combat_V_Faction_Spain 1

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary chevalier_de_bayard
Type Military
Transferable 0
Image knight_chivalrous.tga
Unique
Description chevalier_de_bayard_desc
EffectsDescription chevalier_de_bayard_effects_desc
Effect Chivalry 2
Effect Piety 2
Effect Command 2
Effect LineOfSight 2

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary pierre_abelard
Type Academic
Transferable 0
Image academic_scholar.tga
Unique
Description pierre_abelard_desc
EffectsDescription pierre_abelard_effects_desc
Effect Piety 1
Effect LocalPopularity 1
Effect Squalor -1

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary francesco_petrarca
Type Academic
Transferable 0
Image academic_scholar.tga
Unique
Description francesco_petrarca_desc
EffectsDescription francesco_petrarca_effects_desc
Effect Piety 2
Effect LocalPopularity 2
Effect Squalor -1

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary roger_bacon
Type Academic
Transferable 0
Image academic_alchemist.tga
Unique
Description roger_bacon_desc
EffectsDescription roger_bacon_effects_desc
Effect SiegeAttack 1
Effect GunpowderCommand 2

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary geoffrey_chaucer
Type Academic
Transferable 0
Image civil_admin.tga
Unique
Description geoffrey_chaucer_desc
EffectsDescription geoffrey_chaucer_effects_desc
Effect Construction 10
Effect LocalPopularity 1

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary john_wycliffe
Type Academic
Transferable 0
Image religious_monk.tga
Unique
Description john_wycliffe_desc
EffectsDescription john_wycliffe_effects_desc
Effect Piety 2

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary simon_de_montfort
Type Military
Transferable 0
Image knight_chivalrous.tga
Unique
Description simon_de_montfort_desc
EffectsDescription simon_de_montfort_effects_desc
Effect Chivalry 2
Effect Command 2
Effect Loyalty -1
Effect LocalPopularity 1

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary amerigo_vespucci
Type Academic
Transferable 0
Image court_noble.tga
Unique
Description amerigo_vespucci_desc
EffectsDescription amerigo_vespucci_effects_desc
Effect MovementPoints 3
Effect LineOfSight 3
Effect Trading 10

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary niels_ebbesen
Type Military
Transferable 0
Image knight_chivalrous.tga
Unique
Description niels_ebbesen_desc
EffectsDescription niels_ebbesen_effects_desc
Effect Chivalry 2
Effect Command 2
Effect TroopMorale 2

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Ancillary vlad_tepes
Type Military
Transferable 0
Image knight_chivalrous.tga
Unique
Description vlad_tepes_desc
EffectsDescription vlad_tepes_effects_desc
Effect Chivalry -3
Effect Combat_V_Religion_islam 3

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary meister_eckhart
Type Religion
Transferable 0
Image religious_mysticfigure.tga
Unique
Description meister_eckhart_desc
EffectsDescription meister_eckhart_effects_desc
Effect Piety 2
Effect Authority 1

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary arnold_von_winkelried
Type Military
Transferable 0
Image knight_chivalrous.tga
Unique
Description arnold_von_winkelried_desc
EffectsDescription arnold_von_winkelried_effects_desc
Effect TroopMorale 2
Effect Attack 2
Effect HitPoints 4

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary john_gutenberg
Type Money
Transferable 0
Image civil_master.tga
Unique
ExcludedAncillaries aldus_manutius
Description john_gutenberg_desc
EffectsDescription john_gutenberg_effects_desc
Effect Trading 20
Effect Squalor -2

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary hildegard_von_bingen
Type Religion
Transferable 0
Image court_elderlylady.tga
Unique
Description hildegard_von_bingen_desc
EffectsDescription hildegard_von_bingen_effects_desc
Effect Piety 2
Effect Authority 1
Effect LocalPopularity 3

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary martin_luther
Type Religion
Transferable 0
Image religious_inquisitor.tga
Unique
Description martin_luther_desc
EffectsDescription martin_luther_effects_desc
Effect Piety 2
Effect Unrest -2

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Ancillary paracelsus
Type Magic
Transferable 0
Image academic_alchemist.tga
Unique
Description paracelsus_desc
EffectsDescription paracelsus_effects_desc
Effect HitPoints 4
Effect BattleSurgery 10

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Ancillary johannes_faustes
Type Magic
Transferable 0
Image espionage_agent.tga
Unique
Description johannes_faustes_desc
EffectsDescription johannes_faustes_effects_desc
Effect Chivalry -2
Effect Piety -2
Effect Fertility 2
Effect HitPoints 4

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary aldus_manutius
Type Academic
Transferable 0
Image civil_master.tga
Unique
ExcludedAncillaries john_gutenberg
Description aldus_manutius_desc
EffectsDescription aldus_manutius_effects_desc
Effect Trading 20
Effect Squalor -2

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary marco_polo
Type Money
Transferable 0
Image warrior_naval.tga
Unique
Description marco_polo_desc
EffectsDescription marco_polo_effects_desc
Effect MovementPoints 3
Effect Trading 10

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary donatello
Type Entertain
Transferable 0
Image entertainment_artist.tga
Unique
ExcludedAncillaries michaelangelo, raphael
Description donatello_desc
EffectsDescription donatello_effects_desc
Effect LocalPopularity 2
Effect Squalor -3

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary raphael
Type Entertain
Transferable 0
Image entertainment_artist.tga
Unique
ExcludedAncillaries michaelangelo, donatello
Description raphael_desc
EffectsDescription raphael_effects_desc
Effect LocalPopularity 2
Effect Squalor -3

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary michaelangelo
Type Entertain
Transferable 0
Image entertainment_artist.tga
Unique
ExcludedAncillaries donatello, raphael
Description michaelangelo_desc
EffectsDescription michaelangelo_effects_desc
Effect LocalPopularity 2
Effect Squalor -3

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Ancillary machiavelli
Type Academic
Transferable 0
Image religious_mysticfigure.tga
Unique
Description machiavelli_desc
EffectsDescription machiavelli_effects_desc
Effect Command 1
Effect Authority 1
Effect Squalor -1
Effect Unrest -1

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Ancillary george_of_antioch
Type Military
Transferable 0
Image knight_chivalrous.tga
Unique
Description george_of_antioch_desc
EffectsDescription george_of_antioch_effects_desc
Effect Piety 1
Effect Command 2
Effect LocalPopularity 2

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary francis_of_assisi
Type Religion
Transferable 0
Image religious_monk.tga
Unique
Description francis_of_assisi_desc
EffectsDescription francis_of_assisi_effects_desc
Effect Piety 2
Effect Squalor -2
Effect Unrest 2

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary vasco_de_gama
Type Money
Transferable 0
Image civil_master.tga
Unique
Description vasco_de_gama_desc
EffectsDescription vasco_de_gama_effects_desc
Effect MovementPoints 3
Effect Trading 10

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary anthony_of_padua
Type Religion
Transferable 0
Image religious_monk.tga
Unique
Description anthony_of_padua_desc
EffectsDescription anthony_of_padua_effects_desc
Effect Piety 2
Effect Squalor -2
Effect Unrest 2

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary taticius
Type Military
Transferable 0
Image knight_chivalrous.tga
Unique
Description taticius_desc
EffectsDescription taticius_effects_desc
Effect Command 2

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Ancillary nicolau_copernicus
Type Academic
Transferable 0
Image academic_scholar.tga
Unique
Description nicolau_copernicus_desc
EffectsDescription nicolau_copernicus_effects_desc
Effect Subterfuge 1
Effect LineOfSight 2

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary ibn_khaldun
Type Academic
Transferable 0
Image muslim_man_standard.tga
Unique
Description ibn_khaldun_desc
EffectsDescription ibn_khaldun_effects_desc
Effect Piety 2
Effect Authority 2
Effect Trading 15

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary albertus_magnus
Type Religion
Transferable 0
Image academic_scholar.tga
Unique
Description albertus_magnus_desc
EffectsDescription albertus_magnus_effects_desc
Effect Law 2

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Ancillary jan_zizka
Type Military
Transferable 0
Image knight_chivalrous.tga
Unique
Description jan_zizka_desc
EffectsDescription jan_zizka_effects_desc
Effect Command 2
Effect Authority 1
Effect Defence 2
Effect SiegeEngineering 50

;------------------------------------------
Ancillary roger_de_moulins
Type Military
Transferable 0
Image knight_chivalrous.tga
Unique
ExcludedAncillaries gerard_de_ridefort
Description roger_de_moulins_desc
EffectsDescription roger_de_moulins_effects_desc
Effect Command 2
Effect Authority 1

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Ancillary gerard_de_ridefort
Type Military
Transferable 0
Image knight_chivalrous.tga
Unique
ExcludedAncillaries roger_de_moulins
Description gerard_de_ridefort_desc
EffectsDescription gerard_de_ridefort_effects_desc
Effect Command 1
Effect Authority 1
Effect TroopMorale 1
Effect Attack 2

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Originally Posted by Varangian Berserker

I'm sorry to hear about Bohemond not being in the game. I hate to show my lack of computer knowledge here, but how do you get to the ancillary file?

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The ancillary that really should be in for the Sicilians is Bohemond's step mother Sikelgaita http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sichelgaita :laugh4:

It's surprising Leonardo Da Vinchi isn't there.

A combination Princess/General's Bodyguard Unit? Now THAT would be a dowry...even if she had a charm of zero! :laugh4:



I'd still like for them to have Bohemond too though...just to see if I could marry Anna Commena to him. ~D

Saladin was born in my Egypt campaign O.o, hes a pretty good general too, born conquerer and night battler right from comming of age

Ancillary joan_of_arc
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Image sex_cheapwoman.tga

LOL:)

Bohemond showed up for me...i think the rebel commander in antwerp...?
or just a roaming rebel in the region...

In my HRE campaign I got an an request from my council to assassinate Leonardo Di Caprio (Venican Family Member). I acually have a screenshot if someone's interested.

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Originally Posted by Varangian Berserker

I suppose El Cid would make a good second place prize. How hard is he to bribe? So far, all of my attempts at bribery in my HRE Campaign have failed outright. :(

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Well El Cid's garrison is pretty big so I suppose it'd be pretty hard and expensive. Not to mention The computer, for me at least, usually never ever take bribes.

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Originally Posted by Zharatustra

Bohemond showed up for me...i think the rebel commander in antwerp...?
or just a roaming rebel in the region...

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Can it be? A Confirmed Bohemund sighting!? How about his half (or step?) sister ol' Sch-whatsherface? ~:thumb:

i dunno for you... but almost all ancilleries can't be moved from general to general or agent to agent... most of the times it says *with sound on* Can't Move There sofar ive only moved a few of the many ancilleries i had... and not because i didnt want to

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

i dunno for you... but almost all ancilleries can't be moved from general to general or agent to agent... most of the times it says *with sound on* Can't Move There sofar ive only moved a few of the many ancilleries i had... and not because i didnt want to

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yep can only move a few of the tutor traits and all of the relics


Edit:

I found Bohemond!
https://img490.imageshack.us/img490/...ohemondwv1.jpg

Alas, my favorite Medieval General, a heretic! :shame:

Kewl...I never watched the retinues but i surely will. I want to have King Matthias as my faction leader for Hungary in 1456 (okay i am sure it won't happen) and get him Petrarca. Not good, Petrarca will betray him. That bastard. You cannot kill aniclliaries can you? :-)

marco polo follows my designated pope killer around... or rather he just watches him kill the pope over and over again. (well he did at any rate, sadly Hans the Killer died of old age a few turns back... i guess marco polo decided he'd go check china out)

as far as famous people in the game, i believe the family members of every faction at the start of the game are actual historical figures.