Where is that Keep on the top of a mountain seen in old screenshots?

Is it in the campaign? Or can you get it in one of the custom battles?

Do you remember it? It looks like a castle the Romans had to conquer somewhere in the Middle East or North Africa and it required a huge ramp to be built all the way to it for the army to march and attack.

I saw something similar in one of the old screenshots but can't find it in-game. Must be blindness, must be right in my face, if so, feel free to humiliate me.

You mean Masada? I dunno, I thought all the castles used the same map, just with different climates, which is really lame and boring

There is a castle in the Historical Battles. Siege of somethingorrather. Moorish castle on top of a hill.

The one in the screenshot was completely different from that castle in the historical battle.
It was on top of a huge cliff/rock, and was only accessible by one way (kinda like the road to the gate of Helm's Deep in LotR TTT).

He's talking about this one.
https://img168.imageshack.us/img168/...ar20060zv8.jpg



As for the question, I was wondering the same thing. I suspect the castle doesn't exist, and was only made for exaggerated promotional purposes to make the product look more impressive than it really was. That's the marketing trend these days!

Imagine the pathfinding...

*shudders

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Originally Posted by IPoseTheQuestionYouReturnTheAnswer

He's talking about this one.
https://img168.imageshack.us/img168/...ar20060zv8.jpg



As for the question, I was wondering the same thing. I suspect the castle doesn't exist, and was only made for exaggerated promotional purposes to make the product look more impressive than it really was. That's the marketing trend these days!

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Slightly worse than Rome...

Never saw that screenshot myself. Impressive. But you won't find it in the game unless a modder makes it. Would probably have to be a Historical/Custom battle.

It looks similar to the castle of Besenello near Trento (Italy)

If they made that using the game engine, even for just a "promo shot" it may be buried somewhere in the game code.

Interesting. However, the Danish Chivalric Knights and Turkish Swordsmen units shown don't seem to have made it into the game either.

The fortress does indeed look like Masada. Crusaders in Masada? :dizzy2:

I think it's a custom battle.
1. It's unlikely the Danes could make it as far as the Middle East.
2. I've already destroyed the Danes.

The whole pic looks rendered. It's hard to describe but that pic looks nothing like any screenshot of the game I've seen.

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The whole pic looks rendered. It's hard to describe but that pic looks nothing like any screenshot of the game I've seen.

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The knights are actually charging with their spears down, so yeah it probably is. :yes:

Seeing as this is a promo version before the orig. release.

are all the castles really using the same map?... alright that does it... i officially made up my mind about Total Cuddle Adventure...

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I think it's a custom battle.
1. It's unlikely the Danes could make it as far as the Middle East.
2. I've already destroyed the Danes.

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I was thinking just the opposite Praetor! I love playing the Danes, and as a good Catholic boy my only route for rapid expansion in the grande campaign is east and south (via Russia). The Egyptians and Turks are easy pickings compared to some of the Catholic factions.

It might just be my playing style or the way the AI handles itself on the battlefiels but I'd rather face muslim armies rather than Christian ones any day.

PS Historically the Vikings did crusade in the middle east, and they were *quite* effective; taking a city pretty much themselves that had held up the crusading armies for months up to that point. I'l have to go rack some of my books on the crusades, but I think it was Antioch.

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The whole pic looks rendered. It's hard to describe but that pic looks nothing like any screenshot of the game I've seen.

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Yup, I was suspecting that too, and agree. Look at the Knights - some of the animations they are in are not in the game at all. They look far too realistic. Specifically, the guy on the lower right corner of the picture. That animation is not in the game.

also if you look at the unit numbers... that is the number of men in a unit... youll see that there are far more than 150 in one unit... atleast so it appears to me... and i thought 150 was the biggest amount of men in a unit on huge settings...

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Originally Posted by sapi

Imagine the pathfinding...

*shudders

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Think for a second....:idea2:

1 way in 1 way out. In the world of the AI it is a straight path in to that fortress.

Now if it was a flat plain, their is a problem programming it as there is more than 1 way the human player can assault it.

The real problem is armies are limited to 20 units for performance reasons being the primary factor.

When such fortifications were present sometimes the only viable option was to starve them out are so be so numerically superior to affor the assault

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Originally Posted by sapi

Imagine the pathfinding...

*shudders

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Think for a second....:idea2:

1 way in 1 way out. In the world of the AI it is a straight path in to that fortress.

Now if it was a flat plain, their is a problem programming it as there is more than 1 way the human player can assault it.

The real problem is armies are limited to 20 units for performance reasons being the primary factor.

When such fortifications were present sometimes the only viable option was to starve them out are so be so numerically superior to affor the assault

Im glad that castle didnt make it in to the game. Imagine sallying out from that one.


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