Today was a doom day for the English cricket team
Even though I was supporting Australia, I felt sorry for the English Cricket team, the worst defeat in 80 years!! What do you peoples think of the result?
5-0!!
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Today was a doom day for the English cricket team
Even though I was supporting Australia, I felt sorry for the English Cricket team, the worst defeat in 80 years!! What do you peoples think of the result?
5-0!!
I think that I am sick and tired of English cricket teams that think that cricket generally, and the Ashes in particular, is some sort of game. ~;)
Even Geoff Boycott, who was on the radio this morning and was suitably scathing about the lack of preparation, general rabbit like behaviiour etc, came out with "its no shame to lose to such a good side." When the greatest ever English test batsman (according to G Boycott) can come out with that no wonder we lose. Just as well Wellington didn't feel that it would be OK to lose to the French at Waterloo "because Napoleon is such a good general" eh?
Fair play to the Ozzies they are a great side. And what the England team need is :whip:
Painful. And to think that England has still got seven one-days in which to get slaughtered...
Putting Flintoff in as captain was a mistake. Kudos to the Aussies though, I don't think I've ever seen a team performing so well so consistently. Whenever England threatened to get ahead, they just played even better. :2thumbsup:
Might we hope that the English will now decide to turn away from this excuse of
a sport once and for all? Some of your cricketers play football better, don't they?
[Last point being mildly serious. Was looking for the one who played in the last Ashes
series, who now plays in the football league, but who knows these cricketers names,
eh.]
No-one fits that description, AFAIK. The last person to play both cricket and football at top class level was Denis Compton (Middlesex & England, Arsenal). Arnold Sidebottom wasn't a Man U regular.Quote:
Originally Posted by SSNeoperestroika
ENGLAND
Strauss - present
Trescothick - effectively retired
Vaughan - injured
Bell - present
Pietersen - present
Flintoff - present
Jones - present
Giles - present
Hoggard - present
Harmison - present
Jones - injured
Collingwood - present
AUSTRALIA
Hayden - present
Langer - present
Ponting - present
Martyn - present
Clarke - present
Katich - not selected (retired?)
Gilchrist - present
Warne - present
Lee - present
Gillespie - not selected
McGrath - present
Kasprowicz - not selected
Tait - not selected
No footballers among those AFAIK.
Didn't Botham play for Scunthorpe in the '80s?
The way the side played down under they may have been better picking Rooney, Ferdinand et al.
*conjures up a thought*
Wayne Rooney as opening batman.
*shudders*
I was looking forward to something slightly more exciting then that at the start of the Ashes. With 3 top players retiring it was a nice swansong... still boring as a contest though...considering why the original ashes was made, it might be time to make a new larger urn using the entire set of wickets and bats...
It's not like you are going to ever see any Australia Footballers that will thrash England like that...
No, no-one playing this time round, but when you won a match. [Excuse me if that is inQuote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
fact a list of winners.] He is, or was, briefly playing for a side in League Two, I think.
Nevermind, I'm going to pursue it blindly anyway.
This was the worst performance I've ever seen from an England side, and I'd previously thought the 1990s were the nadir of English cricket. Qualitatively, this beats Trinidad 94, when Ambrose bowled us out for 46.Quote:
Originally Posted by Papewaio
I say burn the English cricketers and put them in an urn. At least that would give us something cheering to look at. The Tebbit test states that anyone claiming to be English must at least support the England cricket team. He was wrong. Anyone who is properly English hates the England cricket team with abosolute passion. Support is temporal - disappointment and loathing is eternal.
They did, last time we played.Quote:
Originally Posted by Papewaio
I've a feeling Pape knew that...
Botham did indeed briefly play for Scunthorpe. I don't think any England cricketer has played professional football since.
Pretty underwhelming series all up, that first ball from Harmison set the tone and it went down from there. Going on to lose Adelaide still confuses me and from there it continued on into a mire.
Someone needs to go and threaten to drop Pietersen. I know he's your best performing batsman etc. but the guy thinks in one dimension, what's good for Kevin and screw the rest. He's not playing for the country, he's playing for himeslf and it shows badly - scampering off to get a single on the first ball of an over with a tail ender at the other end, near-flat refusing to play at 4 etc.
I know Perth was a losing situation and the chances of batting out ~4hours with a tail ender are near zero, but you take your chances. The chances of Australia bowling England out in Adelaide were near zero, but you go for it and everynow and then you get a result - Pietersen chose to protect his average instead of trying to win - drop him until he learns that he is playing for England, not Pietersen in my opinion.
In a word - disgusting.
For those of us who actually stayed up all night for them as well, even more of a kick in the teeth. Oh well, we suck.
Perhaps now the people of Britain will learn that the way we treat our sporting 'heroes' in the country has to change. If we want to consistently achieve sucess we can't just heap awards and praise on our athletes every time they achieve anything. We need to expect sucess and continually improve. The reason we got beat this time was that we had no modesty, the players were arrogant and didn't prepare properly.
It's a disgrace that the whole side were awarded MBE's for only winning the ashes 2-1 last time around when Boycott was equally rewarded for an entire career of sucess, including winning one series almost single-handedly.
English sportsmen should be sportsmen first and foremost - not celebrities. They seem to think that they have a god-given right to win competitions and awards just because they're English. We like to pretend they try oh-so-hard and always come just short but they don't. They spend too much time mucking around and being patted on the back instead of working to reach the top and then aiming to stay there for as long as possible.
English sporting heroes:
- Tim Henman - never won a grand-slam
- Jonny Wilkinson - the World Cup and has done nothing since (the whole England rugby team for that matter)
- David Beckham - celebrity and image clearly affected his game, effectively cutting short what could've been a great career
- Jensen Button - still only 1 won grand prix
- England Football - more obsessed with wags and sponsorship than winning. Performed far below their pay grade.