General's Command Rating

This was talked about by Foz in the 'Experience Effects' thread but hasn't really been discussed...so I felt this deserved its own thread.

In MTW you could plant in a 9 star or some high-level general to make the veterancy of units jump from 0 to 5-7, with some units having prior exp gaining a veterancy level of 9. This meant that one could create uber armies that could smash any opposing force, giving some factions HUGE advantages (esp. the Almohads with their urban militia)

In RTW and M2TW generals no longer seem to have this effect, despite gaining command stars.

So what does a general's command rating do now? To me it no longer seems to have any visible effect, since I can now use capatains or lower level generals to smash 5 star full stack generals. Does it raise morale, stamina or dread? Its known that chivalry and dread affect morale...

It raises Morale. Larger morale to start with, but larger morale hit when they die. Also has Rally Ability (did they have that in MTW?)

Its mostly for auto resolve, the units attack in auto resolve is multiplyed by the attack or something similar...

I thought Chivalry was the bonus to morale? Dread affected your opponents?

In RTW command affected morale, but they've added the dread/chivalry stats instead of management.

So RTW: Command - Morale. Management - cities happiness.

Now Command - ?

Chivalry/Dread - Morale AND cities happiness



Personally, I've found command ratings mean my units pay more attention to my orders, but I may be imagining it. As a captain or low command general I have a terrible time with impetuous troops but higher command means they actually turn back and go where I want them.

But then that may just be a memory from Rome that's playing tricks on me....

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Originally Posted by pevergreen

It raises Morale. Larger morale to start with, but larger morale hit when they die. Also has Rally Ability (did they have that in MTW?)

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The rally ability is a button of the interface, it isn´t tied to a certain unit, since in MTW every unit is led by a named character who can potentially be the General.
However, in MTW the character with the highest command rating is made General and when he dies, there´s no replacement on the battlefield, something I am not 100 % sure of in M2TW, since once I took a second family member into the battle, my general died and after the battle my surviving character gained a command star.

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Just checked rulebook (novel concept I know)

High Command " the better the morale of his troops and the greater his ability to rally his troops who are routing"

Chivalry/Dread: Dread causes fear/moral penalty. Chiv raises morale.

So High comm/chiv - double morale boost.

High comm/dread - morale boost + morale pen to enemy.

That makes sense - I've found my troops fight pretty well against the mongols despite their huge dread, even when my chiv is low - but the command is pretty good. And the mongols rarely break, just retreat in an orderly fashion.

I have alway felt that units under a good general will have increased attack ratings, but have never seen anyone confirm or disprove it before

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Originally Posted by Xdeathfire

I have alway felt that units under a good general will have increased attack ratings, but have never seen anyone confirm or disprove it before

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I always thought that too, based on what a CA staffer posted about command in RTW. But research by therother implied there was no effect on attack in RTW and this is the working assumption of several informed people, e.g. the EB team. I suspect the same is true of M2TW: no effect of command on attack ratings.