What 'New' TW Series Game Would You Like To See?

(Not that Creative Assembly is paying attention...)
In relation to locality and time era, what new game would you like to see CA come out with in their Total War series? (Not a mod).

Myself, and I know I'm a little biased here, I'd like to see a game centered around the 18th century colonial war in North America (the American Revolution). I believe the game engine would lend itself well to this period as would the potential for a variety of challenging factions. For example: the British, the Americans, the various Tribal Nations, the French, and even the independent colonies themselves.

Your thoughts and arguments?

There was an poll about that.

This topic comes up every three weeks or so. But it is at the very heart of what this site is all about, so it can't be raised often enough.

Me, I've been rooting for M:TW2 ever since the first one came out. So I'm a perfectly happy boy for now.

For a next instalment, I wouldn't choose a modern era. Too many guns just don't work I think. I want up-close combat, old-fashioned man-to-man butchery. Axes, swords, shields, spears, the lot.

I wouldn't mind a Hundred Year's War theme. Where they zoom in on the map, maybe a highly detailed one from Scotland down to the Pyrennees, with the variety of the different regions programmed in, and lots of this era's units.

Caius:
Thanks - I'll look for that poll.

Liugi:
I agree - a 'Hundred Years War' theme would be cool. Also, don't get me wrong, I like the 'up close and personal' aspects of battle too. Then again, I think that muskets and cannon in the 'age' I'm referring to wouldn't be that bad. It would be a different form of ranged weapons that replace the velite and onagers.

Congratulations by the way as an HoF Award recipient.

Also, we need a game without too amny hardcoded limits...

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Originally Posted by Caius Flaminius

Also, we need a game without too amny hardcoded limits...

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What, specifically, do you mean by 'hard coded limits'?

I think what he means is a game that you can mod without any limitations.

I would like to see an Antiquity TW-like or TW. 3000 BC, Europe & Asia! 100 Playable factions, 100% Bug-free, 100% Historical accuracy, 100% Moddability supported by modding software and Template works consisting of Medieval/Rome units!!! I'd pay SEGA and CA up to 500 Euros if they'd do this, and I'd wait for it until 2015!!!!!

Oroles

Yeah, a hundred years war theme wouldn't be a bad idea, except it might be a bit too in depth. Something like a provincial campaign sure but a whole game? Not for me. Although an expansion might be good, if it included other settings, such as the Crusades, the Reconquista and the New World.
R2TW would be my true wish. Not just M2TW with upgraded graphic and some new features, but the kind of game people were expecting at the start. Although the current mods are close to perfection, at least on that point.
*faint mumbling about a CTD in EB destroying a roman campaign up to 184BC*

:beam: i would like to see RTW 2. But then with controllable sea battles.

I would really like to see stw2 or an cowboy an indians game or an aztec total war think that would be really good :knight: :bow:.

Id personally like a WW TW becuase i liek that time period

Although it wud have not too many units and there have been countless mod ideas for this that have paled into insignifance

Whatever it is I hope it would be fixed. The old battles of the Shogun and Medieval era need to return. The new units look fine, but without the right mechanics they're pointless. I would also like to see some elements of the old MTW campaign map reintroduced.

As to a specific title I would still have to go with either Shogun II - Total War, or a Total War covering the far east. For the latter, I'm not fussed about the time period, anything from ancient times up to medieval times.

I find the prospect of M2TW uninspiring, which is why I haven't rushed out to get it yet, for S2TW or similar I would be reserving my copy in advance. I've never been that interested in Medieval Europe anyway, despite MTW being my favourite TW game.

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Originally Posted by General Boreaus Brittanicus

Id personally like a WW TW becuase i liek that time period

Although it wud have not too many units and there have been countless mod ideas for this that have paled into insignifance

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Many people want that type of TW game, but trench warfare would be hard to simulate. Personally I think the engine is unsuitable. IMHO Napoleonic era warfare is about as modern as it can get.

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Originally Posted by LuckyDog Trojan

Caius:
Thanks - I'll look for that poll.

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https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=73580

Here ya go!

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Originally Posted by diablodelmar

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=73580

Here ya go!

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Diablodelmar: Thanks Man! ~:cheers: Some interesting discussion and good ideas on that poll thread. I would agree with many of the posters in that a Napoleonic era TW has the potential to be a great game.

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Originally Posted by Cambyses II

Whatever it is I hope it would be fixed. The old battles of the Shogun and Medieval era need to return. The new units look fine, but without the right mechanics they're pointless. I would also like to see some elements of the old MTW campaign map reintroduced.

As to a specific title I would still have to go with either Shogun II - Total War, or a Total War covering the far east. For the latter, I'm not fussed about the time period, anything from ancient times up to medieval times.

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Many people want that type of TW game, but trench warfare would be hard to simulate. Personally I think the engine is unsuitable. IMHO Napoleonic era warfare is about as modern as it can get.

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What he said. :yes:

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aztec total war

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There is a mod.Inca-Total War for Rome.

I think they should have a pre-columbion amerian total war

I would like to see any new total war game as long as it had playable sea battles.

This would be the best TW game. (IMO and kind of joke)

Campaign Map:

Same as it is, but without bugs etc.

Land Battles:

Heavy Armour stuff only! Plate mailed archers, plate mailed peasants!
Plate mailed EVERYTHING!@!!!!

Sea Battles:

Real time, and boarding. The boarders are ARMOURED GUYS!!!

Overal:

The only missile weapons would be cannons that shoot dwarves that explode on impact (oops i revealed a secret unit for WTW..:laugh4:)

I want a American total war pre columbus so you have native americans though you wouldnt get cavalry untill spanish arrive or somthing like that. or an africa total war but that would have to be pre ww1 or ww2 to be any where near good but a 100 years theme would be so hard to do considering the facts of what happened during it but maybe if they did that theyd have to include M2 TW Crusades? whatchya think?

Dude, I don't think it would sell. Thats why it won't happen. I think people in the US have to realise that the only people interested in the history of America are the Americans.
I hope I haven't offended you, but it's true. America doesn't have much international history, and the history it does have didn't affect anyone else really 'till a hundred years ago. In short I suppose I'm saying that there is a better market for bloodthirsty European dark/middle aged history.

These are some I've thought about.
*Ancient China with Mongolia and say Manchuria.
*Possibly 17th, 18th century with muskets and bayonets.
Maybe the Revolution or The Civil War, or WW1.
I think that mobile artilery ie tanks planes would
be to complicated.
*The Near East like the Ottomans, Byzintines, Persia.
*Middle America with the Olmecs, the Maya, Aztecs etc.
*Also I would really love a remake of Shogun. I's always been
my favorite.
*Although there is a Napolianic mod I believe that would be a great
new one.
* You could have the European powers of the 16,17 centuries
fighting over the New World Colonies The Americas, the Caribean etc..

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Originally Posted by Slug For A Butt

Dude, I don't think it would sell. Thats why it won't happen. I think people in the US have to realise that the only people interested in the history of America are the Americans.
I hope I haven't offended you, but it's true. America doesn't have much international history, and the history it does have didn't affect anyone else really 'till a hundred years ago. In short I suppose I'm saying that there is a better market for bloodthirsty European dark/middle aged history.

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Bah. I'm an American, and even *I* don't want an America Total War game. It would be boring: Too few factions, most of whom would have the same units. And it doesn't matter if you're talking about the Revolutionary period, the Civil War, etc. Not that I don't love my country, but I just don't see the appeal of doing a TW game in a North American setting. :shrug:

I wouldn't really care about having a specific year or location - I would just like the risk style map again - I loved it in M:TW, the AI really knew how to handle it. As the CA probably would never do that, I would like to go for a second best option - some sort of compromise where you can place your armies on a certain square, yet they are still in a province. In that case I would like to see a whole province as the battle field and the armies are on the field in relation as to where they are on the strategy map. The mission objective of every non-siege battle would be to surround the town/city in the province with troops for the attacker or to drive all enemies out of the province as the defender. If the defender loses then the city goes under siege and all surviving troops are forced into a neighbouring allied province, if the attacker loses then they are forced into a neighbouring province. If the under-siege cities allied army enters the province then the besieger has to stop them from removing your army from surrounding the town. However, unlike the risk style map, if a neutral or allied power enters a province then they can walk through without war occurring if the owner gives them permission, like with a M:TW crusade. If they say no then the army either has to find another route or attack the province in force.

I would like to have a TW game at the time of colonialism. You take one of the European powers (Spain or G.B. for example), and have to build up both the motherland and establish colonies all over the world. It includes greater (and controllable) sea battles and the necessarity of building infrastructure like roads, to control the new colonies. Generally a bigger economy part/ building part.
It would be some kind of unfair if one takes the native cultures (especially in technical view), but to change the history completely, they need a real great leader! Maybe they could get bonuses fighting in their home terrain (jungle etc.).

Just some ideas, that nobody will put into reality.

The ideas of WW1/ WW2 Tw is in my opinion not practicable without changing the Tw sytem to much, because of the industrial style of warfare.
WW1 would be mostly REALLY boring, because of the small number of different troops (Simple spoken:just artillery, machinegunners and millions of rifle cannon fodder)
Although the trench warfare, that dominated WW1, is simply very boring: Sitting in the trench, waiting for the ari firing one week without stop, and then storming into the machinegun-bullets. A real one way ticket!
And WW2 was decided at the factories and not at the battlefield, with supply as the most important factor.

And the idea of an american TW, would probably have to similar factions in my point of yiew, too.

P.S.: Just my opinion. If you disagree, well its a free country!

I'd like to see them develop a game or games to cover the period from 1500 to 1900.
In fact you know what would be truly sweet? To combine the world spanning scope of [I]Europa Universalis[I] with the time span of the Civilization series and the tactical/strategic and character/dynastic components of the Total War series. Even better would be a game engine including a "first person combat" component which would allow the player to zoom into a specific character, either soldier, officer or general during a battle and also be able to zoom out to direct the actions of the units. Just imagine. You'd never need another game. Your family would become gaming widows.

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I'd like to see them develop a game or games to cover the period from 1500 to 1900.
In fact you know what would be truly sweet? To combine the world spanning scope of [i]Europa Universalis[i] with the time span of the Civilization series and the tactical/strategic and character/dynastic components of the Total War series. Even better would be a game engine including a "first person combat" component which would allow the player to zoom into a specific character, either soldier, officer or general during a battle and also be able to zoom out to direct the actions of the units. Just imagine. You'd never need another game. Your family would become gaming widows.

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yeh that wud be good but 4 problmes\:

1) would take to long to make
2) would take up lots of hard drive space and require a beast of a computer
3)It just would not work becuase of various patents and copyrights
4) would take too long ansd start tp get repetitive

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Originally Posted by LuckyDog Trojan

18th century colonial war in North America

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No thanks. AoE III sucked, and I think this would do likewise.

What would be truly be amazing would be Spring and Autumn: Total War. I actually have a map for MTW of China. I was thinking about making it (and/or Three Kingdoms: Total War) for MTW after Britannia, but at the moment Britannia is on temporary hiatus.

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Originally Posted by Martok

Bah. I'm an American, and even *I* don't want an America Total War game. It would be boring: Too few factions, most of whom would have the same units. And it doesn't matter if you're talking about the Revolutionary period, the Civil War, etc. Not that I don't love my country, but I just don't see the appeal of doing a TW game in a North American setting. :shrug:

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North America doesn't really have any kind of independent empire building history as such, this is why such a game would be so limited. The Civil War would be a bad model with two factions and limited units. There really isn't much that can be done with it, in the Total War sense. The Colonial Wars are really European in a sense, in that they involve European powers fighting over the Americas etc. I can't see that functioning as a stand alone TW game. Pre colonial north America is mainly tribal, the only real empires being in south and central America. Even those are limited as far as factions, technology and units are concerned and will also probably have to involve European invaders at some point. IMHO I think you can cross the Americas off the map as far as TW games are concerned.