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Man not Indicted After Killing Man His Cheating Wife Claimed was Rapist
Also, his wife is charged with manslaughter.
I love Texas.
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Wife Charged After Husband Shoots Her Alleged Lover
FORT WORTH, Texas -- A husband who killed his wife's alleged lover after finding them together escaped a murder charge from a grand jury, which instead indicted the wife for causing the shooting by claiming she was being raped.
Tracy Roberson, 35, was charged Thursday with manslaughter in the death of Devin LaSalle, who police said Roberson invited to her suburban Arlington house in December with a text message that read, "Hi friend, come see me please! I need to feel your warm embrace!"
But prosecutors said when Darrell Roberson arrived home from a card game in Dallas and found his wife -- clad in only a robe and underwear -- with LaSalle outside in a pickup truck, Tracy Roberson told her husband she was being raped.
Police said Darrell Roberson fired four shots as LaSalle tried to drive away, with one striking him in the head.
A Tarrant County grand jury declined to indict Darrell Roberson, 38, on a murder charge.
Tracy Roberson, 35, faces two to 20 years if convicted.
http://www.nbc5i.com/news/11456374/d...=headlineclick
The Enlightened-beyond-the-use-of-violence Europeans may now commence their dithering, and tsk-tsking of us violent Americans. I expect lots of posts about how this man is evil for shooting someone driving away, shooting when any alleged deed was already done, shooting at a man at all, and shooting a gun.
Crazed Rabbit
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Heh. Further proof that all women are evil, lying female dogs.
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I don't entirely agree with him shooting at someone who was driving away, but, on balance, I think he's someone who probably doesn't desperately deserve to be in prison.
It's good that his wife is facing punishment for lying.
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In seriousness, I believe one can argue that they believed a retreating rapist or the like posed a serious threat to the community if allowed to escape and continue their crimes.
Crazed Rabbit
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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
In seriousness, I believe one can argue that they believed a retreating rapist or the like posed a serious threat to the community if allowed to escape and continue their crimes.
Crazed Rabbit
True. I also doubt he regrets shooting now that he found out his wife was cheating, or what she is now being charged with. I wouldn't, for certain. I would feel a certain amount of guilt, but regret is something else, no?
I believe it's a good think that his wife is being punished for her lie. Is adultery still punishable in Texas?
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All joking aside. I'm glad the woman is being punished it shows her what lying gets you. I'm also glad the man is being indited for trying to save his wife from rape! :smash:
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Maybe he doesn't deserve a murder charge. As his wife tricked him into killing a man. But he deserves some sort of concequence for killing a man. So take away all his guns save 1 rifle for a period of 5 years. To a Texan that is a sentence worse than death or jail. :wink:
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Shoot first, ask Texans later.
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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
The Euro-weenies may now commence their dithering. I expect lots of posts about how this man is evil for shooting someone driving away, shooting when any alleged deed was already done, shooting at a man at all, and shooting a gun.
The fact that the victim had NOT raped his wife supports the so-called "Euro-weenie" view that shooting someone driving away when any alleged deed has already been done should not be sanctioned in law, so count this as number one of the posts you are expecting.
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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
Also, his wife is charged with manslaughter.
I love Texas.
http://www.nbc5i.com/news/11456374/d...=headlineclick
The Euro-weenies may now commence their dithering. I expect lots of posts about how this man is evil for shooting someone driving away, shooting when any alleged deed was already done, shooting at a man at all, and shooting a gun.
Crazed Rabbit
So let me see if Ive got this correct
the guy shoots an innocent man in the back of the head while fleeing - and hes your hero?
have all the guns you want cause if 1 gun = 1 dead american, then it follows lots of guns = ????
kill yourselves if you want - live like your in a war zone - i could care less
"stupid is as stupid does" - Forrest Gump
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Originally Posted by Duke of Gloucester
The fact that the victim had NOT raped his wife supports the so-called "Euro-weenie" view that shooting someone driving away when any alleged deed has already been done should not be sanctioned in law, so count this as number one of the posts you are expecting.
Beat me to it. I'll second that. The only person innocent of any wrongdoing is the person now dead. Though I wouldn't be surprised to learn that adultery is illegal in the state of Texas and carries a capital penalty.
I have some sympathy for the gun-ownership views that Crazed Rabbit and others argue for with passion. I can see where they are coming from, and contextually, I can respect the position oft defended.
One of the cornerstones of that position seems to me that responsible gun ownership is key to the well-being of an armed populace. Therefore it saddens me when clearly irresponsible gun use is celebrated as if there is some value in the death of a human being - moreover, an innocent one in this case. It tends to underpin the counter argument that gun ownership has rather too much macho posturing involved for there to be a laissez faire approach to regulation.
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The Euro-weenies may now commence their dithering. I expect lots of posts about how this man is evil for shooting someone driving away,
Yes. What exactly was the shot supposed to achieve that dialling 911 would not?
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shooting when any alleged deed was already done,
Yes. Again, why shoot rather that dial it in?
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shooting at a man at all, and shooting a gun.
No.
CR, did you not notice that the result of the shot was that a man who had done nothing wrong is dead? Not a great case to defend gun ownership on.
Although I can see where the jury was coming from, and I am glad the wife is indicted, I am not entirely sure the man should not also be facing jail time. Although I admit if I came across what I thought was my wife's rapist fleeing the scene I would have shot him too. But I would be wrong.
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The man shot another man in the open, driving a car. Surely this placed others in far more potential risk than not shooting? If he caught the man in flegrante with his wife who now stated it was rape then shoot away - that would be on his own property and defending his wife.
~:smoking:
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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
In seriousness, I believe one can argue that they believed a retreating rapist or the like posed a serious threat to the community if allowed to escape and continue their crimes.
Crazed Rabbit
Possibly, but you would also be arguing against the rule of law.
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Uhm...this guy shot and killed a completely innocent man.
Why on earth should he not be punished...?
And yes, this is a very good example of why guns should be restricted. An innocent man was killed here, and he would not have been killed if there was no gun.
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Although I admit if I came across what I thought was my wife's rapist fleeing the scene I would have shot him too. But I would be wrong.
^^ what I think. I'd have done the same, and felt righteous, but expected to face the music - especially after ALL the facts had been revealed (wife lying).
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Meh, people have been acquited of shooting after robbers here before. While I don't think this behaviour being encouraged I understand why he's getting off. At the very least he could have claimed temporary insanity...
Do I loose Euro-weenie poj ts now ?
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Well, it teaches us that having sex with a married wife is a dangerous thing to do and all kinds of consequences can follow. Without a gun I might have thrown an axe into his back or so...:sweatdrop:
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Well the guy was fooled by his wife into shooting an innocent man...so she should be accused of that crime now him...
but even so he still discharched his gun in a totally irresponsable way...
I propose jail time for the lying wife and a gun-owning ban against the dupped husband.:smash:
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Serves him right for having sex in a pickup truck. Some people have no class.
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Several points: I am not using this as a case to defend gun ownership.
I am not using this as a case of a 'good shoot'.
I am using this as a rather extreme example to compare to the usual European or leftist view on gun ownership, self defense, and justice.
I am not celebrating the death of Mr. LaSalle (I think a shot ending up in a certain nether region would have been more appropriate).
One note, to those claiming he shot irresponsibility when shooting at the truck, of the mind that such shooting might endanger others (besides Mr. LaSalle) - we don't really have enough information to go on to know what was behind the truck. He might live on a great big ranch, and not in some suburban cluster of homes.
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have all the guns you want cause if 1 gun = 1 dead american, then it follows lots of guns = ????
The number of guns, and gun ownership, has been increasing steadily in this country. Violence, on the other hand, has been decreasing. So,
Americans+more guns+less gun control=less violence
Also, you are now all enlightened-beyond-the-use-of-violence Europeans. Enjoy!
Crazed Rabbit
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If she hadn't lied and said she was raped, the husband would have shot her instead (or maybe even both of them). :yes:
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Wow, some people actually have a problem with this?
It's obviously a shame the man died but the wife is clearly the one at fault. I think it's naive to expect someone to react in a calm and composed manner with 20/20 hindsight.
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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
The number of guns, and gun ownership, has been increasing steadily in this country. Violence, on the other hand, has been decreasing. So,
Americans+more guns+less gun control=less violence
Also, you are now all enlightened-beyond-the-use-of-violence Europeans. Enjoy!
Crazed Rabbit
On a related note, gun crime in Canada is very low, whereas Canada has close to almost as many guns per capita as America. I'll do my best to find the article again.
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In my opinion, he was wrong for shot a man with a good French name, Devin LaSalle, for trying to make proper love to his wife while he was out playing with the boys.
To me, it's only the natural order of things.
She was probably a porker anyway.
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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
The number of guns, and gun ownership, has been increasing steadily in this country. Violence, on the other hand, has been decreasing. So,
Americans+more guns+less gun control=less violence
Also, you are now all enlightened-beyond-the-use-of-violence Europeans. Enjoy!
Crazed Rabbit
you do realise you attempting to make an argument more guns=less violence and as you example youve used an innocent man being gunned down in cold blood
dude wake up and smell what your shoveling
as for the case at hand
so theres no chance they guy knew perfectly well the guy was porking his wife - shot him in the back - forced the wife to lie and make up the rape story
some of the views expressed on here are little bit well naive
if all the people having affairs were allowed to shoot each other there'd be alot less people in the world - like it or not cheating is very common
the shooter should face the chair - fire a gun and accept the consequences - by the guys own vigilantism - the verdict he would hand down on himself would be a life for a life.
luckily in Australia we have a code of laws and these guys called Pleezmen, who enforce the law - citizens are not allowed to be hand out sentencing because they are in general idiots and will get it wrong, just look at what happens when you let them vote. I understand this is no longer the case in the US (which no longer has the code of laws), so good luck with that.
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More guns does mean less violence because everyone is afraid they'll get a :rifle:
This verdict does herald to the earliest human records, and I think that in light of the issue, this is the only justice he could have gotten. If he had taken the man to suit, he would have lost. The two witnesses were the 'victims' and they wouldn't speak a peep about their affair.
Also, the man WAS arrested, given a trial by his peers, and justice was handed out, and while it is unusual to say the least, it is in the tradition of democracy.
However....
What you are advocating is a 'POLICE STATE' where the law is handed out by men who could 'ABUSE' those powers. Thats a 'NO-NO' to peace loving people.
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Also, the man WAS arrested, given a trial by his peers, and justice was handed out, and while it is unusual to say the least, it is in the tradition of democracy.
well thats more than he CHOSE to give the victim
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What you are advocating is a 'POLICE STATE' where the law is handed out by men who could 'ABUSE' those powers. Thats a 'NO-NO' to peace loving people.
erm no
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
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I understand this is no longer the case in the US (which no longer has the code of laws),
But see, this is why we need all the guns. Without a police force how else are we going to stop people from doing stuff they shouldn't do? Your own argument defeats itself.
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luckily in Australia we have a code of laws and these guys called Pleezmen, who enforce the law
The law was carried out, the police arrested the shooter, and he was taken before jury, etc. etc.
I think the man was fully justified in shooting.