Have Sex, Do Drugs,' Speaker Tells Students

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A guest speaker at an assembly at Boulder High School in Colorado has told students as young as 14 to go have sex and use drugs, prompting school officials to say they will investigate.

The instructions came from Joel Becker, an associate clinical professor of psychology at the University of California at Los Angeles.

"I am going to encourage you to have sex and encourage you to use drugs appropriately," Becker said during his appearance at the school as part of a recent panel sponsored by the University of Colorado's Conference on World Affairs.

"Why I am going to take that position is because you are going to do it anyway," he continued. "I think as a psychologist and health educator, it is more important to educate you in a direction that you might actually stick to. So, I am going to stay mostly on with the sex side because that is the area I know more about. I want to encourage you to all have healthy, sexual behavior."

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The assembly was mandatory for all students.

PS they invited him back next year.

At least he wants them to act appropriately while using drugs/having sex. :shrug:

Well he has a point.
They are gonna do it anyway so might as well teach them to do it properly and act appropriately.
Especially sex.

It all depends, but he's a funny guy.

While this may be true for many, I personally never did either, and I'm 21.:inquisitive:
So it's not necessarily so that everyone is going to do it anyway.
Maybe I should see a psychologist like him because I'm way too different and old fashioned.:dizzy2:

Well, he does have a point.

I will tell you now that as soon as anyone starts making trite statements, however true, about the dangers of drugs and unsafe sex, the majority of students switch off.

At least by a statement such as that the speaker would have gained the audience's attention and been able to make positive improvements to their attitudes.

Who knew an associate professor of psychology might try reverse psychology?

The biggest teenage buzzkill after all, is doing something an adult thinks is cool, how lame.

but seriously, education is the key specially with drugs.
My first post in the backroom, hey!

I really, really can't see anything wrong with this...

Really.. so what? He's telling them to enjoy life but be responsible about it. How can people be upset over that?

We had a similar thing when we were 14-15, but just about drugs (virtually no one preaches abstinence here anyway)

Inverse psychology and all, it takes away part of the cool-ness of drugs, I think it actually kept some kids off of drugs, and made some users more aware of 'responsible behaviour'. It's not always about drugs OR a good life, it's about finding a balance.

Well, it was reasonably entertaining anyway.

You people need help. If my kid went to that school somebody would have a bloody nose. Does it occur to any of you that some of us may not like our kids being taught that in school?

why not? whats wrong with being responsible?

If you think thats responsible you need help. As does Boulder Col. So you would approve me telling your children that ? And at 14?

lol at 14 most kids are already having sex. that's not exactly new. its been happening for thousands of years and is quite natural, i assure you. kids experiment. it happens. get over it.

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

If you think thats responsible you need help. As does Boulder Col. So you would approve me telling your children that ? And at 14?

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That's the age in Sweden where you are taught sex-ed and drugs in school and that you should do it appropriately and is exactly the right age to teach it as well.

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

If you think thats responsible you need help. As does Boulder Col. So you would approve me telling your children that ? And at 14?

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I dont know Gwain usually you and I see eye to eye, but at 14 I was doing bong hits before school and figuring out ways to become more appreciated by females.

While its not a fun pill to swallow (this guys speech), the overall message is responsibility for an act that he believes they will commit anyway.

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lol at 14 most kids are already having sex. that's not exactly new. its been happening for thousands of years and is quite natural, i assure you. kids experiment. it happens. get over it.

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Some do most dont. If you want your 14 year old daughter doing drugs and having sex thats fine with me, but if you try to teach my daughter that , then again your looking for a punch in the nose.

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While its not a fun pill to swallow (this guys speech), the overall message is responsibility for an act that he believes they will commit anyway.

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So you think he should visit all schools in the country and give this speech? Maybe we should teach them how to roll joints in school as well. Or how to make crack. Their only going to do it anyway. The point is this is a public school. The thing was mandatory the students could not opt out and the parents were never consulted, Get real.

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

So you think he should visit all schools in the country and give this speech?

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Can we come up with a term for one of Gwains broad statements? All schools Gawain? Nah, i think my sons kindergarten class can be by passed for now.

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Maybe we should teach them how to roll joints in school as well. Or how to make crack. Their only going to do it anyway.

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Really Gawain must you be so dramatic? You almost sound like a liberal.... :laugh4:

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The point is this is a public school. The thing was mandatory the students could not opt out and the parents were never consulted.

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this part we agree in principal, parents should have been informed first of the content of the presentation and be allowed to have the option of not having thier kids attend, we can find common ground on that point.

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this part we agree in principal, parents should have been informed first of the content of the presentation and be allowed to have the option of not having thier kids attend, we can find common ground on that point.

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This is the only part I have a problem with. Its kind of funny though if you were to teach your kids to do drugs at home you would be aressted. And I wonder what the law would say if you allowed your 14 year old daughter to have sex with her boyfriend with your supervision and approval. Isnt that still against the law?

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

This is the only part I have a problem with. Its kind of funny though if you were to teach your kids to do drugs at home you would be aressted. And I wonder what the law would say if you allowed your 14 year old daughter to have sex with her boyfriend with your supervision and approval. Isnt that still against the law?

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If that involves you watching I'm pretty sure there would be some legal issues...

Honestly, MTV, music, movies, and other teenagers scream *HAVE SEX* about a thousand times a day, somehow I doubt a clinical professor saying the same thing is going to have an impact...

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Honestly, MTV, music, movies, and other teenagers scream *HAVE SEX* about a thousand times a day,

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And as a parent you can control what your child watches in your home. Again my problem is that this was mandatory and the children had to go without parental consultation or approval.

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

And as a parent you can control what your child watches in your home. Again my problem is that this was mandatory and the children had to go without parental consultation or approval.

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What makes parents more qualified to educate their children about sex than a clinical professor ?

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Originally Posted by doc_bean

What makes parents more qualified to educate their children about sex than a clinical professor ?

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I dont know if you posted this seriously (in reply to Gawain) or not, but i might skip lunch to watch for his response. :laugh4:

From time to time doc, your a pretty funny guy... :balloon2:

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I dont know if you posted this seriously (in reply to Gawain) or not, but i might skip lunch to watch for his response.

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Well to tell the truth I didnt really think it deserved a response but Id hate to be responsible for you missing lunch. So here goes a quicky. How about we just hand our kids over to the state at 6 or 7 like the Spartans and let them educate them in ALL that is important. The real question you should ask yourself is " What makes this clinical professor more qualified to parent your children than you"?

hes right about sex... not drugs... cuz when you are going to the same with drugs youre actually saying its oke.. and its not

Blimey, next thing you know they're going to tell students to eat food and breath oxygen. :no:

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Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny

If you think thats responsible you need help. As does Boulder Col. So you would approve me telling your children that ? And at 14?

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I got the sex and safe sex health class in grade 8. When I was 13 (the discomfort burned it into my memory). That was 12 years ago. Even then only about half the females in my class were still virgins.

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My first post in the backroom, hey!

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Welcome to the backroom :2thumbsup:

Watch out for the squid.

And now back to the fighting:

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The real question you should ask yourself is " What makes this clinical professor more qualified to parent your children than you"?

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Err, that would be his qualifications?

Encouraging kids to have sex and do drugs is the politically correct thing to do nowadays. The speaker described in the original post was only slightly more blunt about it than any of the other "mainstream" speakers who deliver the exact same message everywhere. :furious3: This phenomenon is but one great example of the immoral cesspool that modern society has turned into.

whats immoral about having sex?

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Originally Posted by doc_bean

What makes parents more qualified to educate their children about sex than a clinical professor ?

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Well, the parents by definition have undeniable real-world experience with sex. How do I know this professor didn't just learn about it from his books? I'll take my education from the real experts anyday, thank you very much.

(and on a more serious note, the parents have a biological bond of concern for the well-being of their child. The professor has no such naturally good motives. One of my biggest concerns with modern society is the greater trust we give disinterested professionals over family)

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