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Howdy.
I was wondering what actually causes the ignorant trait in family members, and what means can be taken to prevent it. It's annoying to spend the time and cash to train great governors only to have this trait develop... kinda odd having a chivalric, great builder who is ignorant. I remember where was a thread long ago about all the traits, ancillaries and their triggers, but I've lost the shortcut, and my searching has yet to find it. Thanks for all your help!
As of 1.2, Ignorant has a low chance of happening anywhere, anytime.
The only thing that will keep your generals safe from it are it's antitraits (that is : every skill trait like maths or rethoric) and sitting in towns with either a city hall, an academic building, or a castle academia. Oddly enough, Intelligence and Ignorance can coexist, even though they have exactly opposite effects.
Since those buildings also give out said skill traits, you can basically send your generals in those high culture places to get "vaccined", then roam around, enlightened by the lights of the Renaissance. Or something.
You could also get LogisticSkill by having your generals spend all of their movement points all the time I suppose, but since Ignorant only affects governing stuff, I'd go for academies.
Logistics Skill? What's that do for you?
Without being certain about it, it probably provides more income or allows greater troop movement or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mordon
Hello there.
IIRC logistics give a morale boost and a movement bonus to the general's army but nothing that directly affects governing. Not 100% sure though.
-- Guru
Well, you can be an extremely intelligent guy, and still not care about anything outside your house... Ignorant doesn't mean dumb, you know ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobal2fr
Anyway, a small guide to avoid ignorance:
First off, you can avoid it by meeting conditions that will not trigger the trait in the first place. As kobal said, you'll need to build either a city hall, academy or castle library(danes, poles and hungarians).
The second way, is to earn antitraits. Fortunately, ignorance has a whole bunch of antitraits: RhetoricSkill, StrategicSkill, TacticalSkill, MathematicsSkill and LogisticalSkill.
And this is how you get them:
RhetoricSkill:
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The code is in the spoiler. Anyway, you get this trait with either a city hall, a castle library or an academy(in addition to random chance at birth). Not terribly useful, as those buildings guard against ignorance anyway. However, there is one thing to note, if you have a library in your empire, you have a chance at the skill at birth. So, building a castle library as soon as you get a citadel is well worth it, even if you don't intend to have a general there.
StrategicSkill:
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This one is a lot easier. The first one is to have a 3rd level barracks in the castle(4h in the city), which you'll probably want anyway. The city level required is large city, and then you can just build a city hall instead. However, the castle level required is just a castle, so it's an early guard against ignorance for your castle governors. Second, you have the "impossible odds heroic victory" triggers. They seem impossible at first, but they are quite possible. The first ways I see, are incredibly large sieges against your troops in a citadel, where you can defeat a much larger army. The second is where you attack a city with a small garrison but huge reinforcements with a small force of your own. You have a good chance of killing the defenders and hold the square for 3 minutes before the reinforcements get there.
TacticalSkill:
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This one is quite simple: either win a heroic victory, or a successful ambush. You can also get it from a military academy, but you'll probably have the city hall by then. At least you should.
MathematicsSkill:
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This one isn't terribly useful as a guard against ignorance, as it requires buildings you'll definitely get after the city hall. However, danes, muslims and byzantines have a good chance to get the trait at birth.
LogisticalSkill:
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Only one trigger, and it's simple enough, just march around and you'll get it. Oh, and it gives a bonus to movement and morale.
Thanks for the help guys, it's appreciated. I'm not sure how rare the ignorant trait is, since it's seemed to happen to about 20% of my governors in the last 4 English campaigns.
IIRC it's 4% per turn. But considering that your average general will be with you for 50-100 turns, and that you have a dozen generals weeell... do the proverbial math.