Get off my bus!
So I awoke from a dream this morning. One just like this from a time so very long ago, almost 31 years ago today in fact...a man-child about to make acquaintance with his new mommy. Eye Balls...SNAP SIR!
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Get off my bus!
So I awoke from a dream this morning. One just like this from a time so very long ago, almost 31 years ago today in fact...a man-child about to make acquaintance with his new mommy. Eye Balls...SNAP SIR!
hehe. That guy (the DI) is my neighbor. His voice is unmistakeable.
Does he practise the shouting at home ?Quote:
Originally Posted by KukriKhan
I don't know about 'practice', but he certainly wasn't afraid to use it on the new puppy he got a month ago. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by doc_bean
All I remember was some Dude yelling (I knew better not to make eye contact) and running out with our luggage and having to stand on these little yellow painted circles on the concrete. I remember the "tap...tap...tap" as he paced up and down the lines. I remember this huge torso standing directly in front of me (still no eye contact!!!) and a big wad of chewing tobacco spit hitting my shoe and a very loud voice saying, "Those shoe's ain't in accordance of 35-26-03, we'll take care of that". This was all around 2 in the morning!!! Ah, such memories!!!:laugh4:
You know I'd never make it in the US marines. No way, no how. I REALLY don't respond well to the kind of behavoir those DI's use. It brings out all the wrong kind of reponses. Wise cracks, body langauge, zero respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito
I dunno, it all looks kinda homey ... but then my dad was a Marine officer ...
Extraordinary.
I recall my arrival at Sandhurst. We were served tea. :toff:
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Many a recruit has felt and thought the same as you, lars. However, training tactics that have evolved from Roman times to today's most elite armies in countries around the world follow the same basic tenet. Break down the individualistic thought processes and get them thinking, acting, performing as a team. Lemur's video shows a part of the breaking down process; one individual screws up and the entire platoon suffers. In fact, the most effective DI's make everyone but the screw up suffer, physically. Then the screw up suffers the psychological pain of knowing his mates suffer the consequences of his mistakes. A little peer pressure usually prods those that proclaim not to care.Quote:
Originally Posted by lars573
Some can take more prodding than others. And not every nation trains like that. Canada follows a similar track as Britian. Only time you hear a raised voice is on the parade square.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito
That funny hysteric dwarf is quite amusing.:sweatdrop:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lemur
I think I prefer the british system though, but in the end I don't care since I didn't have to serve, I think our system is somewhere closer to the american one, though I don't think we have guys acting like hysteric little kids.:laugh4:
Realize that this is only boot camp training (12 weeks), one doesn't go through this their entire enlistment, just long enough to weed out the ones who can't make it. The "hysterical dwarf" act is employed as part of the boot camp training regimen; "if there is no crisis, we create one". Why, one might ask? War is chaos with deadly consequences for those that are ill prepared for the stress. These type scenarios help condition the troop to think clearly and act correctly despite the noise,chaos, and fear they are feeling. You might come to hate the DI's guts, most did including yours truly. However, I respected them because they did every thing they demanded of us and more.
Many a recruit fresh off the bus stood in these prints and thought, "What the hell did I just get myself into."
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...Footprints.jpg
What, no buttered muffin and jam? How uncivilized...:laugh4:Quote:
Extraordinary.
I recall my arrival at Sandhurst. We were served tea.
Took me a week to hold down my breakfast after the PT & run. I bet Lemur's Dad has some amusing stories to tell...
Not all branches of the US Forces trains like this, but the elite commando units sure do, and harder. I bet the special forces of England, Canada, France, and Germany do too.Quote:
Some can take more prodding than others. And not every nation trains like that. Canada follows a similar track as Britian. Only time you hear a raised voice is on the parade square.
British special forces doing drill .Quote:
Not all branches of the US Forces trains like this, but the elite commando units sure do, and harder. I bet the special forces of England, Canada, France, and Germany do too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_iH...elated&search=
Banquos drill instructor .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMWK...elated&search=
Yes, they do. Well, those of the United Kingdom, anyway. ~;pQuote:
Originally Posted by Hosakawa Tito
The Parachute Regiment would be a good example of a similarly extreme training regime. Lots of bellowing and silliness for that lot. They even get to punch one another. Incidentally, it is also why they are considered a very poor choice for peacekeeping missions - too much aggression.
The Royal Military Academy Sandhurst is of course, an officer training academy. I doubt if they shout much at West Point either. Whilst they allow officers destined for the Parachute Regiment to attend RMAS, they are chained up during night hours. Those of us destined for more genteel duties such as overseeing the lobbing of explosive ordnance from quite a long way away needed to refine skills such as ordering char and guiding bombardiers to the right turf accountant. :wink:
The British Royal Marines of course are Navy, and they train their officers elsewhere - for which I often thank the Good Lord.
@Tribesy: :laugh4:
Here's what REALLY goes on at boot camp:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysfRmYwvcpw
:balloon2:
These clips are from the documentary Ears, Open. Eyeballs, Click. Its unnarrated, and the editing and music are great. Filmed at Pendleton and San Diego.
Can be ordered here: http://www.canaanbrumley.com/
Got my copy in 2 days
A couple years ago, I went to a presentation about college at West Point and the video they showed had the new arrivals getting yelled at as they had to rush off a bus (though the yellers were not Marine DIs).Quote:
I doubt if they shout much at West Point either.
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