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So:
Whites do better in schools than blacks. Asians do better than whites. Ashkenazi Jews outperform both.
This is owing to genetic variations in cognitive abilities, which are not equally distributed among all groups of people.
True?
False?
Gah?
Heh, I'm the fifth to vote, and the first one to reply...
Anyway, I voted a solid GAH! The reason? This is completely useless information, it cannot be applied to anything at all in reality, whatever the answer.
As 'races' go, no, the statement is false. Certain groups of people might be different, though, however it has nothing to do with race.
CR
In other words, you mean that genetics doesn't affect anything, but social influence does?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit
No. These stereotypes exist and therefore it manifests itself regardless of actual abilities in people.
Men have long been thougt of as better in mathematics than women. On tests were people are informed of this women do more poorly than men, than in the control group. On tests where it is emphasized that asians are better, they did better than the control group.
The same can be seen in sports, the "white men can't jump" phenonomen, when this is emphasized white men do worse at sports than blacks. Similarly blacks do worse at sports typically associated rich white people like sailing and such.
Basically if a certain stereotype exists in an environment then people are prone to live up to it either consciously or subconsciously..
Well over here it isn't quite as easy to generalise like that since most people have both Maori and Pakeha heritage, but supposedly accoording to the government, Maori don't pass as well as Pakeha. But that is changing however, and I know it is not by much because I have a Maori friend studying law at uni in Wellington and another in the same year as me who thrashed the rest of the classes score last year in the Mathematics exams. Generally there is a large group of both Maori and Pakeha who have no wish to be at school so I'd say it isn't genetics at all.
I also have an Chinese friend who is scarily intelligent, as in he beats the teachers at the tests and corrects them during class. But his parents have extremely high expectations of him and weren't very happy when he got a B- in his piano exam. So it's a lot of factors, much more to do with a student's home life and motivation than their actual intelligence level.
I'm saying race and any genetics outside of skin color don't correlate.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoreTore
CR
Until credible evidence is found that suggests that Whites are indeed Smater than Blacks, I will have to vote False.
Impossible. As long as certain people exist (that is, the great majority of high school students, at least), that statement is false.
I say True...
Octosquid's are much smarter than all other intelligent races..
All hail the Octosquid!
I'm asian. ~:D
That's because they have to calculate in octal rather than decimal. And the photo in the other thread shows that they are well red.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ianofsmeg16
Aside from Pigment in the skin, Genetic Variances (however subtle they may be), and social influences. Every Human Being is thus.
Oh yeah? Then why do they have tentacles? :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost
Flippity floppity floop, fo' shizzle my nizzle, brothas. Where's mah chikenz and melons?:book:
:inquisitive:
Well, that's different.
CR
No different than this topic. :tongueg:
Bah, I've failed. No heated debate, controversy and fist-fights yet. :shame:
I don't know about blacks and whites, but I believe the french have more brain than the texans...:laugh4:
There are genius' and dummies in all races but the average intelligence and ability to progress of some races are higher than others.
Well, that's because the French have such big heads. :painting:Quote:
Originally Posted by Soulforged
Actually, it is really unfair to say anything bad about Texans - it is no fault of their own that they are perceptually challanged. :tumbleweed:
I agree. Humanity's ability to progress is much higher than that of the planktons and whatnot.Quote:
Originally Posted by PanzerJager
The problem is of course finding geniuses among planktons.
Clever Louis. Just parse the sentence
Or for you old-timers, diagram it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis
He's made a statement that will support any of the 3 options he's put forward, with slight twists of word position within the diagram.
Bravo! He's missed a career opportunity as a writer of congressional legislation. :laugh4:
I think diffrent races do have varying degrees of intellegence. This doesnt mean one race is "stupid" but I think you are really turning a bilnd eye to things when you think everyone is on a level mental and physical playing feild
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Originally Posted by KafirChobee
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I don't know about blacks and whites, but I believe the french have more brain than the texans..
:inquisitive:
"Minorities" may have less chances of a good education. This does not mean they lack the mental abilities to comeplete one...
Poeple who think whites are better are of equal intelligence to those that think blacks are better .
Patience Louis, have faith in your fellow orgahs and the tinderbox we call the Backroom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat
Makes mines babaque puh-leze.Quote:
Where's mah chikenz
Replace the word races with individuals and many would agree. The uneven playing field is due to cultural/societal practices not genetic differences.Quote:
I think diffrent races do have varying degrees of intellegence. This doesnt mean one race is "stupid" but I think you are really turning a bilnd eye to things when you think everyone is on a level mental and physical playing feild
Its not about being better its about being different. If there were no such thing as diffrences there would be less Jewish scientists and more jewish sports stars and vice versaQuote:
Originally Posted by Tribesman