Palestinian Terrorists to Other Palestinian Terrorists: You're gay!

What can I say? It's like the old saying about how political parties spend all their effort proving the others are incompetent, and they're all right.

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Allegations fly in Fatah-Hamas conflict
By KHALED ABU TOAMEH

The Hamas-Fatah power struggle has descended into the gutter over the past few days, with both parties trading allegations about the involvement of their members in homosexual relations and adultery.

The alleged "sex scandals" are said to have occurred in the Gaza Strip, which fell into Hamas's hands in June.

Shortly after the Islamist movement wrested control of the Strip, Hamas officials began talking about "embarrassing" and "damning" documents and films that were seized inside Palestinian Authority security headquarters formerly controlled by Fatah.

According to the officials, the Fatah men had been spying on several senior PA officials, some of whom were caught on tape having homosexual intercourse.

A DVD distributed among a limited number of Hamas representatives features a former PA official having sex with another man. The disc, according to a Palestinian journalist in Gaza City, is being sold on the black market for NIS 20.

Hamas says the PA's Preventive Security Force played a major role in collecting the evidence against the senior PA officials. In some cases, Hamas said, the documents and tapes were used to extort large sums of money from the PA officials.

Two documents that were allegedly seized inside Preventative Security Force headquarters provide insight into the method used to collect information about the sexual conduct of the top officials.

According to one document, entitled "A Large Number of Homosexuals," a number of wealthy and influential figures in the Gaza Strip had formed a "gang" for practicing homosexual intercourse.

"Some of them were summoned for questioning and they admitted to having sexual intercourse with boys and adult males," the document, dated May 12, 2005, stated.

"Some of them had individual sex, while others preferred group sex. Some of them paid money for sex, while others performed sexual intercourse with males in front of their wives."

The sex allegedly took place in hotels, clinics and private homes - in some cases with a picture of Yasser Arafat hanging overhead.

The document described the homosexuals as a "very dangerous group" and warned that the phenomenon might spread to other parts of the Gaza Strip, adding that rival political factions could exploit the case to defame Fatah and "create chaos and confusion."

The second document is a follow-up to the first.

Entitled "Results of Questioning," it names four homosexuals who allegedly had sexual relations with senior Fatah officials in the Strip.

The four supposedly blackmailed the officials after filming them during sexual intercourse. "Since we are talking about top Fatah figures, there is a need to summon them and talk to them," the document, dated May 19, 2005, concluded.

A Hamas official in the Gaza Strip said the documents were the "tip of the iceberg" and that his movement was planning to reveal more evidence about Fatah's "moral corruption."

The official said Hamas had already posted a short video on the YouTube Web site showing used condoms that were found inside the offices of senior Fatah security commanders and political figures.

Another Hamas official said his men had uncovered three brothels that had been frequented by top Fatah officials in the Gaza Strip.

Fatah officials in Ramallah refused to comment on the latest allegations. However, they stressed that it was not hard to forge such documents since Hamas was now in control of the security headquarters and of all the archives and files inside the buildings.

But a respected Palestinian journalist in Gaza City who examined the two documents said there was no reason to doubt their authenticity.

In a bid to counter the Hamas campaign, Fatah members have published details about "sex scandals" involving Hamas activists.

According to Fatah, a Hamas imam was recently caught having sex with a male minor in a mosque basement.

In another incident, according to Fatah, a senior member of Hamas's armed wing, Izaddin Kassam, was expelled from his refugee camp after he was caught having sex with a male colleague in a vehicle. And according to a report on a Fatah-controlled Web site, a Hamas man was caught naked together with his neighbor's wife in her bedroom.

"These Hamas people are very immoral and corrupt," said a senior Fatah official. "They use Islam as a cover-up for their crimes. But our people know very well who they are dealing with. We have a lot of information about the moral corruption of many Hamas officials and we will make them public at the right time."

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LOL!

Crazed Rabbit

I find the title of you're thread rather amusing Crazed Rabbit.

Looks like they're trying to copy the catholics...

Well, mud-throwing is preferable to bomb-throwing...

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Originally Posted by Watchman

Well, mud-throwing is preferable to bomb-throwing...

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It may devolve into yet more bomb-throwing though....Or are they still throwing bombs? After I returned from Germany I somehow didn't keep up on whether they were trying to kill each other a particular week or not.

I believe Fatah is in the process of trying to purge the West Bank of Hamas people.

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

Looks like they're trying to copy the catholics...

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No I think they hate europeans too much for that....

But calling the other gay??? lol its like schoolyard insults brought to politics

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lol its like schoolyard insults brought to politics

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Welcome to Islamism.

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Originally Posted by K COSSACK

But calling the other gay??? lol its like schoolyard insults brought to politics

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These Muslims are supposed to have morals so the evidence that has come out is quite humiliating and shameful for them. To a much greater degree than schoolyard insults ever could be.

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Originally Posted by Navaros

These Muslims are supposed to have morals so the evidence that has come out is quite humiliating and shameful for them. To a much greater degree than schoolyard insults ever could be.

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Well I wonder how other muslims will treat their own?

maybe abandoning them?

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Originally Posted by English assassin

Welcome to Islamism.

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Indeed. Nothing at all like our Western "Christian" idea of politics where graft, greed, theft, blackmail, extortion, money laundering, sexual perversion, and war are the rule and not the exception. :toff::kiss2:

What does this have to do with Christianity? :inquisitive:

How does Christianity have anything to do with western politics?

You talk as though the things you listed don't happen in the Middle East. Me, I'd take mud slinging over actual bomb slinging.

CR

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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

What does this have to do with Christianity? :inquisitive:

How does Christianity have anything to do with western politics?

You talk as though the things you listed don't happen in the Middle East. Me, I'd take mud slinging over actual bomb slinging.

CR

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Hmm? You don't think Christianity didn't have a big influence on western governments?:inquisitive: Also, Beirut didn't say anything about Middle East politics, so I don't know why you're putting words in his mouth.:inquisitive: But then, that seems to be something Republicans like doing, so I guess it just figures...
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Oh, and yeah, mud slinging is at least better than bomb slinging.

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Originally Posted by English assassin

Welcome to Islamism.

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Welcome to politics.

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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

What does this have to do with Christianity? :inquisitive:
CR

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Precisely as much as "schoolyard insults brought to politics" has to do with Islam.

This is pathetic, but I wouldn't expect any less from......

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Originally Posted by Beirut

Indeed. Nothing at all like our Western "Christian" idea of politics where graft, greed, theft, blackmail, extortion, money laundering, sexual perversion, and war are the rule and not the exception. :toff::kiss2:

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Same all over. The higher politicians place themselves on some kind of moral pedastal in front of their supporters/audience, the more painful the fall will be.

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Originally Posted by Geoffrey S

Same all over. The higher politicians place themselves on some kind of moral pedastal in front of their supporters/audience, the more painful the fall will be.

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It's a truth in any system. Our Western leaders are corrupt enough, telling us to do as they say and not as they do. If there's too much scrutiny some grave foreign affairs crisis comes up. The muslim world works much the same in that respect - as soon as the leaders feel the heat they let newspapers publish some juicy foreign news to make the mob forget the domestic troubles. Communism, where everyone is equal, worked no better. The leaders took whatever they wanted as a "well-deserved" reward for their work in improving the nation.

Nah, V for Vendetta. People shouldn't be afraid of their governments, the governments should be afraid of their people...

Islam has almost nothing to do with the political structures in most middle eastern countries. This is one reason why some extremists are so eager to overthrow said political structures.

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Originally Posted by Del Arroyo

Islam has almost nothing to do with the political structures in most middle eastern countries. This is one reason why some extremists are so eager to overthrow said political structures.

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Islam is embedded in the political structures of many middle eastern countries. The extremists are trying to overthhrow those structures because they believe Islam is not embedded enough, or they disagree with the particular flavor of Islam that is embedded.

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Originally Posted by Goofball

Islam is embedded in the political structures of many middle eastern countries. The extremists are trying to overthhrow those structures because they believe Islam is not embedded enough, or they disagree with the particular flavor of Islam that is embedded.

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Embedded how? The courts, parliamentary systems, constitutions etc in most middle eastern countries are British or French in origin... some have bended with the times and passed Islamic laws over the past few decades, but the structure of, for instance, Egypt's or Jordan's government is still essentially western.

A big exception, of course, is Saudi Arabia. But we all know that they are crazy. The Hamas/Fatah conflict is if anything an acute embodiment of the struggle between secular establishment and radicalized Islamism, or better yet, simply one more example of how the Palestinians, singular among the Arab peoples, are really, really nuts.

The Israelis are probably wetting themselves laughing.

They should be worried... clearly the Palestinians already have Weapons of Ass destruction...

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Originally Posted by Beirut

Precisely as much as "schoolyard insults brought to politics" has to do with Islam.

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And where did I say that the two were connected?

CR

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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

And where did I say that the two were connected?

CR

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You didn't.

Then you must have been responding to EA, and equating Islam with Islamism.

Something tells me the two are not the same.

CR

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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

Then you must have been responding to EA, and equating Islam with Islamism.

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

Something tells me the two are not the same.
CR

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Agreed. EA and Islam are not the same thing at all. But if he decides to lean towards Mecca, I respect his right to choose. :bow:

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Originally Posted by Kage

It may devolve into yet more bomb-throwing though....Or are they still throwing bombs?

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I believe you missed the phase of rock-throwing, made infamous during the Intifada years, (and I wont go into the Israeli-Arab nonsense, it all ends up with the same responses).

And I totally agree with Beirut, I couldn't have said it any better myself.

Funny article on a funny topic, and I'd much rather see this on the news than reports of scuicide attacks though.

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Originally Posted by K COSSACK

No I think they hate europeans too much for that....

But calling the other gay??? lol its like schoolyard insults brought to politics

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Welcome to politics. Where you been all these years?

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Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar

Welcome to politics. Where you been all these years?

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homestead FL :help: