TEHRAN, Iran — Millions of Iranians attended nationwide rallies Friday in support of the Palestinians, while the country's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Israel's continued existence was an "insult to human dignity."
"The creation, continued existence and unlimited (Western) support for this regime is an insult to human dignity," Ahmadinejad said. "The occupation of Palestine is not limited to one land. The Zionist issue is now a global issue."
Ahmadinejad's remarks came as millions of Iranians held rallies across Iran to protest Israel's continued hold on Jerusalem, the city where Muslims believe Islam's Prophet Muhammad began his journey to heaven.
The demonstrations for "Al-Quds Day" — Al-Quds is the Arabic name for Jerusalem — also spilled over into anti-American protests because of U.S. support for Israel.
In the capital Tehran, hundreds of thousands of people poured into the streets as they chanted "Death to America" and "Death to Israel." Some protesters also burned American and Israeli flags.
State television reported similar large rallies in all other provincial capitals and smaller towns across Iran.
Iran does not recognize Israel and regards Palestine as comprising the Jewish state as well as the West Bank and Gaza.
Ahmadinejad is known for his Israel-lashing comments who has called for Israel to be "wiped off the map." He has also called the Nazi Holocaust a "myth" used as a pretext for carving out a Jewish state in the heart of the Muslim world after the World War II.
The Iranian president once again said Palestinians should not pay any price because Europeans committed crimes against Jews in World War II. He said they could give a part of their own land in Europe or Alaska so that the Jews can establish their country.
"I ask European governments supporting Zionists and the American people that will you allow occupation of part of your land under a pretext and then talk about a two-state solution?," Ahmadinejad said after the rallies.
Ahmadinejad said a "free referendum" was the solution to the Palestinian issue, saying Jews, Muslims and Christians as well as five million Palestinian refugees should take part in a vote to determine their own fate.
Ayatollah Mahould Hashemi Shahroudi, Iran's judiciary chief, said Friday's rallies was "a good start for the destruction of the Zionist regime."
Parliamentary speaker Gholam Ali Haddad Adel said the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands was a "blatant oppression" and warned that the relationship between the Islamic world and the West won't improve as long as Palestinians are not allowed to determine their fate in a referendum.
Since the Islamic revolution in 1979, Iran has observed the last Friday of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan as "Al-Quds Day," as a way of expressing support to the Palestinians and emphasizing the importance of Jerusalem to Muslims.
Jerusalem is the third holiest city in Islam after the Saudi Arabian cities of Mecca and Medina.
In the Syrian capital of Damascus, more than 3,000 people carrying flags of the Palestinians, Syria and Lebanon's militant Hezbollah group marched Friday through the city's Yarmouk refugee camp to mark the day.
"Palestine is ours, from the sea to the river," read a banner referring to the Jordan river and the Mediterranean where British-mandate Palestinian's border used to be before Israel's creation in 1948. "Defending Palestine is a national and religious duty," read another.
The demonstration was organized by the Iranian embassy in Damascus and the Damascus-based radical Palestinian groups to protest Israel's capture of East Jerusalem during the 1967 Mideast war.
Maher Taher, the representative of the radical Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine in Damascus, said: "Jerusalem Day is to reassert our solidarity with the Palestinian people."
TEHRAN, Iran — Millions of Iranians attended nationwide rallies Friday in support of the Palestinians, while the country's hard-line President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Israel's continued existence was an "insult to human dignity."
"The creation, continued existence and unlimited (Western) support for this regime is an insult to human dignity," Ahmadinejad said. "The occupation of Palestine is not limited to one land. The Zionist issue is now a global issue."
Ahmadinejad's remarks came as millions of Iranians held rallies across Iran to protest Israel's continued hold on Jerusalem, the city where Muslims believe Islam's Prophet Muhammad began his journey to heaven.
The demonstrations for "Al-Quds Day" — Al-Quds is the Arabic name for Jerusalem — also spilled over into anti-American protests because of U.S. support for Israel.
In the capital Tehran, hundreds of thousands of people poured into the streets as they chanted "Death to America" and "Death to Israel." Some protesters also burned American and Israeli flags.
State television reported similar large rallies in all other provincial capitals and smaller towns across Iran.
Iran does not recognize Israel and regards Palestine as comprising the Jewish state as well as the West Bank and Gaza.
Ahmadinejad is known for his Israel-lashing comments who has called for Israel to be "wiped off the map." He has also called the Nazi Holocaust a "myth" used as a pretext for carving out a Jewish state in the heart of the Muslim world after the World War II.
The Iranian president once again said Palestinians should not pay any price because Europeans committed crimes against Jews in World War II. He said they could give a part of their own land in Europe or Alaska so that the Jews can establish their country.
"I ask European governments supporting Zionists and the American people that will you allow occupation of part of your land under a pretext and then talk about a two-state solution?," Ahmadinejad said after the rallies.
Ahmadinejad said a "free referendum" was the solution to the Palestinian issue, saying Jews, Muslims and Christians as well as five million Palestinian refugees should take part in a vote to determine their own fate.
Ayatollah Mahould Hashemi Shahroudi, Iran's judiciary chief, said Friday's rallies was "a good start for the destruction of the Zionist regime."
Parliamentary speaker Gholam Ali Haddad Adel said the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands was a "blatant oppression" and warned that the relationship between the Islamic world and the West won't improve as long as Palestinians are not allowed to determine their fate in a referendum.
Since the Islamic revolution in 1979, Iran has observed the last Friday of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan as "Al-Quds Day," as a way of expressing support to the Palestinians and emphasizing the importance of Jerusalem to Muslims.
Jerusalem is the third holiest city in Islam after the Saudi Arabian cities of Mecca and Medina.
In the Syrian capital of Damascus, more than 3,000 people carrying flags of the Palestinians, Syria and Lebanon's militant Hezbollah group marched Friday through the city's Yarmouk refugee camp to mark the day.
"Palestine is ours, from the sea to the river," read a banner referring to the Jordan river and the Mediterranean where British-mandate Palestinian's border used to be before Israel's creation in 1948. "Defending Palestine is a national and religious duty," read another.
The demonstration was organized by the Iranian embassy in Damascus and the Damascus-based radical Palestinian groups to protest Israel's capture of East Jerusalem during the 1967 Mideast war.
Maher Taher, the representative of the radical Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine in Damascus, said: "Jerusalem Day is to reassert our solidarity with the Palestinian people."
Oct. 5: Indonesian Muslims march during an anti-Israel protest in Surabaya, East Java, Indonesia.
Such a wonderful culture... :yes:
Even better is the amount of support this mindset gets in the West. :help:
I always hear Muslims are so peacefull..... Mabye a Few are, but this leave me with the conclusion that they are warlike culture, period.
10-05-2007, 19:49
HoreTore
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
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I always hear Muslims are so peacefull..... Mabye a Few are, but this leave me with the conclusion that they are warlike culture, period.
So, you think it's fine to base your opinion of 1 billion people based on a few thousand?
And this is demonstrating... Not war.
Demonstrating is usually called a democratic thing, you know...
10-05-2007, 20:05
drone
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
So that's what the fuss is about. Due to my incomprehension of Farsi/Arabic, I mistakenly assumed they were celebrating the date of my birth. Fires, chanting and kids waving guns around, what else was I supposed to think? Oh well.
10-05-2007, 20:09
Mikeus Caesar
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
Yes, of course, the holocaust was all a hoax. 6 million Jews didn't die in the holocaust.
IN THE HOLOCAUST, SIX MILLION JEWS DIED WON FABULOUS PRIZES!
10-05-2007, 20:10
rotorgun
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
It's always sad to me when I see another generation of children, be they from any culture, being trained and indoctrinated to participate in the hatreds and bigotry of their parents. This is why there will never be a chance for real peace.
"......from whence comes these wars and fightings amonst you? Ye seek and desire to have, Ye lust that Ye may consume it upon your lusts, Ye ask and have not. Why? Because when thou ask Ye ask amiss." - Book of James, Holy Bible
Non-violence is the way to real peace.
10-05-2007, 20:14
Geoffrey S
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
Wow, thank God nobody has been stupid enough to bomb fellow Muslim countries while supporting rather nasty repressive regimes to demonstrate that their fears of being viewed as pawns in to be subdued to Western interests are essentially correct and reinforce this siege mentality... oh dear...
10-05-2007, 20:19
Blodrast
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So that's what the fuss is about. Due to my incomprehension of Farsi/Arabic, I mistakenly assumed they were celebrating the date of my birth. Fires, chanting and kids waving guns around, what else was I supposed to think? Oh well.
Happy Birthday, drone, how does it feel to have so many people celebrating your birthday ? ~D And, man, they have guns and posters and stuff, I bet they'll fire a few salvos in your health, it's really cool! I envy you. :beam:
10-05-2007, 20:21
rotorgun
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Wow, thank God nobody has been stupid enough to bomb fellow Muslim countries while supporting rather nasty repressive regimes to demonstrate that their fears of being viewed as pawns in to be subdued to Western interests are essentially correct and reinforce this siege mentality... oh dear...
Indeed. There is plenty of blame to go around with all the parties involved. But who started this whole mess to begin with? (Abraham banishing Ishmael and Hagar out into the desert aside)
10-05-2007, 20:33
drone
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Happy Birthday, drone, how does it feel to have so many people celebrating your birthday ? ~D And, man, they have guns and posters and stuff, I bet they'll fire a few salvos in your health, it's really cool! I envy you. :beam:
I'm hoping the chick that jumps out of this cake is hawt! ~D
10-05-2007, 20:42
Geoffrey S
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Indeed. There is plenty of blame to go around with all the parties involved. But who started this whole mess to begin with? (Abraham banishing Ishmael and Hagar out into the desert aside)
No-one and everyone did. That's the problem.
10-05-2007, 20:51
rotorgun
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No-one and everyone did. That's the problem.
The only way that everyone can begin to solve it is for everyone to put down their guns, bombs, rockets, knives, etc., etc., and talk to one another instead. How is little Achmed in the front row ever going to learn that from the adults teaching him that hate is the way? (vis a vis all the other countries as well)
10-05-2007, 20:55
Tribesman
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
Don't ya just love it , a yearly protest about an illegal occupation that is violation of laws that Isreal agreed to and that most of the world repeatedly condemns is now apperantly a hatred of Jews thing , nice going Panzer , did you check dinnerjackets comments about that murderous regime from Germany that you are so fond of ?:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
I like the article .
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Ahmadinejad is known for his Israel-lashing comments who has called for Israel to be "wiped off the map." He has also called the Nazi Holocaust a "myth" used as a pretext for carving out a Jewish state in the heart of the Muslim world after the World War II.
.....nice stuff , I really like the little "" things :yes: they are normaly used to mean something is an actual quote . I wonder what the actual quotes were that Fox has implied were "quotes":laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
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Demonstrating is usually called a democratic thing, you know...
Don't be silly , or the next thing you are going to say is that calling for a referendum would be somehow democratic :2thumbsup:
10-05-2007, 20:58
Blodrast
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
I'm hoping the chick that jumps out of this cake is hawt! ~D
You won't be able to tell because of the burqa, though, mate. Just enjoy the fireworks, 'kay ?
10-05-2007, 21:16
Geoffrey S
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Originally Posted by rotorgun
The only way that everyone can begin to solve it is for everyone to put down their guns, bombs, rockets, knives, etc., etc., and talk to one another instead. How is little Achmed in the front row ever going to learn that from the adults teaching him that hate is the way? (vis a vis all the other countries as well)
In the end, yes, that's the ideal. But as long as all possible sides keep looking for justification (and in their mind, finding it) in history for actions in the present that's a ways off. They're not working on the basis of the world now, but on the basis of what they think the world should have been.
10-05-2007, 21:22
Evil_Maniac From Mars
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So, you think it's fine to base your opinion of 1 billion people based on a few thousand?
And this is demonstrating... Not war.
Demonstrating is usually called a democratic thing, you know...
It's also from Fox News. If somebody gives me a link that doesn't tend to embellish or slant the news as badly, I'll believe more of it.
10-05-2007, 21:24
The Wizard
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And this is demonstrating... Not war.
Demonstrating is usually called a democratic thing, you know...
Notice there are children walking around with live guns.
I mean seriously, regardless of the message sent here (which I oppose), using your own children as your political pawn in power games of which demonstrations are inevitably a part of is disgusting. Simply and downright disgusting.
10-05-2007, 21:27
Kralizec
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
Congrats, Drone :cheers:
My birthday was about a week ago, at the same time that the Burmese military began beating down the protests. Must be bad karma :no:
10-05-2007, 21:30
The Wizard
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
I was born two hundred years to the day after Louis XVI called the Estates General and started France on the path towards Revolution.
Beat that ~;p
10-05-2007, 22:03
Geoffrey S
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It's also from Fox News. If somebody gives me a link that doesn't tend to embellish or slant the news as badly, I'll believe more of it.
Still, I struggle to see how a relatively small group of extremists can be considered representative of Muslims in general, any more so than some more rabid anti-war demonstrators can be considered representative of the views of most of the population in the West.
10-05-2007, 22:16
The Wizard
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
The fact that they're talking about destroying a sovereign country (and, by extension, its people, though I doubt many make the distinction) during a time when no Muslim should indulge himself in violence is telling for the kind of people taking part, I'd say.
10-05-2007, 22:16
Boyar Son
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
yeah well....here comes another generation of holy extremists....:tnt:
10-05-2007, 22:17
Tribesman
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Still, I struggle to see how a relatively small group of extremists can be considered representative of Muslims in general
If you really struggle you can manage to look from Panzers or Warmans perspective .
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Mabye a Few are, but this leave me with the conclusion that they are warlike culture, period.
OK it might be a hell of a struggle to get to that perspective , but give it a go anyway Geoffrey:2thumbsup:
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The fact that they're talking about destroying a sovereign country (and, by extension, its people, though I doubt many make the distinction)
If the Scots wanted the United Kingdom consigned to the waste bin of history would that mean by extension they want to kill all its people ?
10-05-2007, 22:23
Don Corleone
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
~:rolleyes: I love this. In one thread, people are talking about how responsible, taxpaying citizens shouldn't be allowed to own guns in their own homes to defend themselves. In other, we're heaping praise on parents arming their children with rifles and handguns and having them march around the streets, calling for the death of millions of people as 'noble political protest'. Anybody care for another nice helping of hypocricy, hmm?
10-05-2007, 22:36
Tribesman
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In other, we're heaping praise on parents arming their children with rifles and handguns and having them march around the streets, calling for the death of millions of people as 'noble political protest'.
Really Don .....Where ?
You really are slacking lately:thumbsdown:
10-05-2007, 22:37
Spetulhu
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
Next time you open CNN (or whatever your favorite news channel is) try writing "good guys" and "bad guys" on a paper. Then put a mark under the relevant heading when you see a muslim. How much are you willing to bet that you'll see very few of them that appear rational? Problem is, demonstrations and violence are news. Peaceful living isn't.
The state-controlled media in the muslim countries certainly don't show them any Jews or Americans being nice to people either. :help:
10-05-2007, 22:48
Don Corleone
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
Hmm, where did I get that idea.... :stupido2:
Maybe it was this...
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Originally Posted by HoreTore
Demonstrating is usually called a democratic thing, you know...
Or this....
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Originally Posted by Tribesman
Don't be silly , or the next thing you are going to say is that calling for a referendum would be somehow democratic
As for your opinion of my views, Tribesman? Can't be bothered to care. Have a donut. ~:cheers:
10-05-2007, 23:07
PanzerJaeger
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
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Don't ya just love it , a yearly protest about an illegal occupation that is violation of laws that Isreal agreed to and that most of the world repeatedly condemns is now apperantly a hatred of Jews thing , nice going Panzer , did you check dinnerjackets comments about that murderous regime from Germany that you are so fond of ?:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
:laugh4:
Nope, no Jew hating going on here... how much farther can you put your head in the sand?
It truly is pathetic that you are so entrenched in your Israel=Evil attitudes that you cannot see how far from a simple protest this is.
Indoctrinating children into a belief system that relies on hatred and the destruction of another people is certainly not something I would think you support...
Anyone with any sense, left - right - or center, can see that this is not a good thing.
Defaulting to your preconceived good/bad notions without actually thinking is the definition of mental slacking... no? :shame:
10-05-2007, 23:12
Strike For The South
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
A populist bringing out his biggest issue! Im supposed to be surprised?
10-05-2007, 23:20
Goofball
Re: Muslims Rally Worldwide to Show Their Hatred of Jews and Americans
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So, you think it's fine to base your opinion of 1 billion people based on a few thousand?
Actually, a few thousand is a statistically significant sample.
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And this is demonstrating... Not war.
Demonstrating is usually called a democratic thing, you know...
Having said that, demonstrations in democratic countries don't as a rule involve children carrying guns and chanting hate slogans.
