Elder Scrolls 4

Hey,

I love that game. Can't remember the class I was playing on it but. Excellet game, and my comp ran it on High Graphic Quality and it ran smoothly.

You guys thoguhts on the game??

Oblivion, lovely game. My new computer manages to run nearly everything on High with no slowdown, which is a big step up from having to disable nearly everything and run the Oldblivion mod. I still disable grass and use Oblivion Optimization. :loveg:

Addicted to it for a while on my ps3, it was an awsome game, couldn't stop playing.

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Originally Posted by Kekvit Irae

Oblivion, lovely game. My new computer manages to run nearly everything on High with no slowdown, which is a big step up from having to disable nearly everything and run the Oldblivion mod. I still disable grass and use Oblivion Optimization. :loveg:

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What Class you play as Kek? I sold my Oblivilon (needed the money you see, now I am going to buy a cheap copy on amazon!).

I was this One Lizard class that was good at Pick Locking (or sneaking, don't remember) and swimming or something. Did quite well really. :yes:

Really is a addictive game!!

I'm still sure KingWarman is talking about Morrowind.

ooohhh, he's talking about morrowind, I'm talking about the new one.

Elder Scrolls 4 is Oblivion. Pretty but ultimately soulless. I became a bit of a mod call girl in an attempt to alter the game to something more interesting (and to improve the graphics even further).

I just can't stand the voice acting: only a few voices, all badly done. It became really grating and was the biggest turn off for me. I found myself missing the more traditional text boxes.

I still have it installed and sometimes load it up, only to quit within minutes.

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Originally Posted by Charge

I'm still sure KingWarman is talking about Morrowind.

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Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888

What Class you play as Kek?
I was this One Lizard class that was good at Pick Locking (or sneaking, don't remember) and swimming or something. Did quite well really. :yes:

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Daggerfall, Morrowind, Battlespire, and Oblivion all had Argonians as playable races, but he is talking about the fourth in the original Elder Scrolls series (Oblivion).

And as for class, I never use a pre-built class. I always custom make mine. I prefer either Imperial or Bosmer (Wood Elf) for my race, and something stealth-oriented for the class.
For my stealth-oriented character, my main seven skills were Armorer, Heavy Plate, Blunt, Alteration, Conjuration, Destruction, and Hand to Hand. In other words, the skills I do NOT use. This means I can gain skill in the ones I DO use (Athletics, Blade or Marksmanship, Block, Illusion, Restoration, Sneaking, etc) without worrying about leveling up. I can fully control when I level up just by using the skills I never normally use.
Powerleveling. It's a wonderful thing. :tongueg:

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Originally Posted by Charge

I'm still sure KingWarman is talking about Morrowind.

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Nope, Never played Morrowind. Any good?



I always enjoying breaking into houses and such. Very fun and challaging when breaking into Guard's Barracks. :yes:

Before I stopped playing Oblivion I had an really really high leveled Nord, with almost everything maxed out, I beat almost every single quest ever in the game, I was the leader of everything, and then I went on a mad rampage, went to EVERY single town and killed everyone. It was fun, having 50 gaurds chase you around the whole map.

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2.8 GHz
512 RAM

Radeon X1300/1550 256 MB Card

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So I'm really can't imagine how you managed to run Oblivion on high.
Especially RAM (at least gig).
My comp has a bit worse CPU (if you have p4) and ram (if you have ddr400). Video card no match though. And it was just screwed up with G3. Maybe TES4 has more optimized engine, but seriously, it's a one of the most exacting dx9 games! ...

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Originally Posted by Charge

So I'm really can't imagine how you managed to run Oblivion on high.
Especially RAM (at least gig).
My comp has a bit worse CPU (if you have p4) and ram (if you have ddr400). Video card no match though. And it was just screwed up with G3. Maybe TES4 has more optimized engine, but seriously, it's a one of the most exacting dx9 games! ...

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Yea I know, but when I was installing it and when it was figuring out the quality, it stuck it on High and it ran fine. SO, It was good. :yes:

I was playing Oblivion until about a month ago on me 360. I was female Dunmer WarMage and did everthing except for the Daedric Quests, I only have Vaermina's quest and Clavicus Vile's and of course, Hermaeus Mora's quest. Man, I love the Skeleton Key. Don't like battlemages w/ their emphasis on heavy armor. Then I started a new one as a Nord Crusader and got to the Chorrol Gate and never finished it. I never finished Morrowind, however, too much walking, which is why I prefer battlespire/oblivion. I just downloaded Arena two days ago and downloaded an emulator last night. Hopefully tonight I can play Arena b/c the graphics look so awesome (for its time period). I want to be a Bosmer Ranger or maybe an assasin. I think it's funny how Argonians have human hands on the game. I hope the next TES won't be a MMO b/c then I'll will be pwned so bad, not much of a combat person.
Edit:Whoops, I meant Daggerfall not Battlespire. I've never played Battlespire or Redguard

I have never played Arena, oddly enough. I really should, considering it's a free download.

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Originally Posted by Kekvit Irae

I have never played Arena, oddly enough. I really should, considering it's a free download.

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Downloading and installing now, tell you all how it is later :yes: :yes:

I didn't know Arena was free download either until some guy on youtube said it was free in one of his comments. I've just started playing and I can't seem to make it out of the starter dungeon. This will be my 8th try although I didn't know how to attack until my 5th try. This time I will be a Nord Barbarian, maybe I can bullrush those goblin hordes. Stupid random wizard and witch that keeps on killing me.

As hard as the newbie dungeon may be (I've, as I said, never played Arena), it will pale in comparison to the newbie dungeon in Daggerfall. Unless you are playing a magic user, or choose the Ebony Dagger, the imp you find at the start is virtually unkillable (immune to iron weapons). Unless you just zergrush through to the exit, you'll find that the vast majority of your deaths come from this one dungeon.
It's also the entire reason why you should never, EVER, use a pre-made class. Custom build your class!

I actually just picked it up yesterday. Now that I have a PC that is able to run it maxed out I decided to give it a try. Looks great but I also saw that it is possible through mods to make it look even better... :dizzy2:

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Originally Posted by Kekvit Irae

As hard as the newbie dungeon may be (I've, as I said, never played Arena), it will pale in comparison to the newbie dungeon in Daggerfall. Unless you are playing a magic user, or choose the Ebony Dagger, the imp you find at the start is virtually unkillable (immune to iron weapons). Unless you just zergrush through to the exit, you'll find that the vast majority of your deaths come from this one dungeon.
It's also the entire reason why you should never, EVER, use a pre-made class. Custom build your class!

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I don't think I can custom build my class in Arena...but I will if I ever play Daggerfall. I know that the guy who developed Morrowind took 20 attempts to make it out of the starter dungeon. I finally made it out (on my 9th try;I made it on my 8th try but I forgot to save and was killed by an Orc.) as a male Bosmer Ranger and I've been transported to a city called Emperor's Run and now I have to find a place called Fang's Lair to find the first staff piece. King Warman where were you transported after going through the shift gate. Right now, all I have is a katana and a measly round shield. Hopefully I can retrieve the staff piece by tommorrow;wish me luck...
funny, how this thread has evolved into one based on Arena not Oblivion anymore:beam:

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Originally Posted by Draconian

I don't think I can custom build my class in Arena...but I will if I ever play Daggerfall. I know that the guy who developed Morrowind took 20 attempts to make it out of the starter dungeon. I finally made it out (on my 9th try;I made it on my 8th try but I forgot to save and was killed by an Orc.) as a male Bosmer Ranger and I've been transported to a city called Emperor's Run and now I have to find a place called Fang's Lair to find the first staff piece. King Warman where were you transported after going through the shift gate. Right now, all I have is a katana and a measly round shield. Hopefully I can retrieve the staff piece by tommorrow;wish me luck...
funny, how this thread has evolved into one based on Arena not Oblivion anymore:beam:

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I downoaded the DOS emulator, and I can't use DOS worth a crap. So I'm stuck here :sweatdrop: :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888

I downoaded the DOS emulator, and I can't use DOS worth a crap. So I'm stuck here :sweatdrop: :laugh4:

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What's wrong w/ the DOS emulator??? Did you follow the directions that came w/ the Arena download??? The directions should be in the DOCs folder.

Oblivion was an odd beast. They managed to fix the issues that ruined Morrowind for me, then introduce new and improved design problems to ruin Oblivion for me.

I can only assume there is a Bethesda gene that lets your overlook the vast amount of issue their games have, and I lack it.

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Originally Posted by Draconian

What's wrong w/ the DOS emulator??? Did you follow the directions that came w/ the Arena download??? The directions should be in the DOCs folder.

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I'm just not good with using the commands with DOS. I think I follow the directions :yes:

If you saved it in the C drive it should look like this.
Z:\>MOUNT C C:\

Z:\>C:\

C:\>CD\ARENA

C:\ARENA>ARENA (The game should start once you hit enter)
It took me three tries before I could access the game b/c I accidentally put the game in my K drive.

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Originally Posted by Draconian

If you saved it in the C drive it should look like this.
Z:\>MOUNT C C:\

Z:\>C:\

C:\>CD\ARENA

C:\ARENA>ARENA (The game should start once you hit enter)
It took me three tries before I could access the game b/c I accidentally put the game in my K drive.

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Thanks m8. I install it in C Drive, but I got little knowledge of DOS (now if my ask my older brother.... :laugh4: ), but nolw I test it later (in school now) :yes:

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Originally Posted by Draconian

If you saved it in the C drive it should look like this.
Z:\>MOUNT C C:\

Z:\>C:\

C:\>CD\ARENA

C:\ARENA>ARENA (The game should start once you hit enter)
It took me three tries before I could access the game b/c I accidentally put the game in my K drive.

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Got it to Work, Thanks Draconian. :yes:


Kinda slow for me though (Mabye my comp is to fast for it?)

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Originally Posted by {BHC}KingWarman888

Got it to Work, Thanks Draconian. :yes:


Kinda slow for me though (Mabye my comp is to fast for it?)

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hit ctrl f12 to increase your frame rate. Mine is at 15000 fps.
ctrl f11 is to decrease your frame rate.
esc is to access main/save menu
shift m is the fast travel map
(there are some other controls and hints that they can be found at this site)
http://www.svatopluk.com/arena/manual/
or you can look at this...hope it helps. And tell me how many times it took for you to get out of starter dungeon and which city you end up in.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Keys and Commands
On-Screen Buttons
There are many options that you can evoke while exploring the world of Tamriel. To the right of your face are two rows of buttons. They represent various actions available to you. The button, and the action it represents are explained in the following list.

Mouse General Controls
Left clicking while cursor is an arrow will move you in the direction of the arrow. The further the arrow is from the center of the screen, the faster you will move.

Left clicking an object while the cursor is an X interacts with it, the interaction depends upon whether you are in talk, cast, or attack mode (see below).

Right clicking while left mouse button is depressed will cause you to jump.

Right clicking an object while the cursor is an X identifies it, if it is not generic.

Mouse in Character/Equipment Sheet
Left clicking an item will equip it. (If your class can use that item)

Right clicking an item will give you info on it. (If that item has any info)

You can left click the Spellbook button. This will give you a list of the spells in your spellbook and their current casting cost. Left or Right clicking one of the spells will bring up its sheet and allow you to see the specifics associated with that spell. You may only cast spells from the walk around menu, not from the character sheet.

Unequipable items are in read.

Equipable items are in tan.

Equipped items are in yellow.

Unidentified magic items are in cyan.

Unidentified equipped magic items will be displayed in bright cyan.

Crossed Swords icon—Attack
Clicking this will draw your weapon and put you in attack mode. From here holding down the left mouse button moves you in the same direction as the arrow. Holding down the right mouse button and moving the mouse swings your weapon. You may still jump using the J key. Shift+J will do a standing long jump. Clicking this icon again will sheath your weapon.

Sunburst icon—Cast
Cast a spell. Left clicking the icon will cause your spellbook to appear. You may pick the spell you wish to cast, and the target of that spell.

To save time in recasting the same spell, you can right click the icon again. If you have the spell points, you will cast the last chosen spell again.

Fingers picking gold icon—Steal
Steal something. When this icon is clicked a prompt will come up asking, Target?. Pick the target on the screen. If it is a person, there will be an attempt to pickpocket them. If it is a barrier, such as a chest or door, ay attempt will be made to unlock it. Be careful however, in a city you may attract guards.

Hand grabbing icon—Use
Use something. When this icon is clicked an inventory of usable magic items will come up. pick the item you wish to use and then follow any onscreen prompts that may arise, such as Target? for a ring spell. Note: Only from the 3D walk-around menu can you use an item. If you want to use a healing potion, you must use it from here, as you will be unable to use it from the character sheet.

Snake-staff icon—Player Status
Player Status. Clicking this icon will pause the game and show your current status, and other items such as the date and time of day, or any reputational issues that may affect your status at your current location. Other information on this pop up will be your current condition, health, spells that are currently affecting you, and spells that are currently active.

Parchment with lines icon—Logbook
This icon represents the Logbook, a journal of your travels. In your logbook will be information on any quests you have agreed to accomplish, and province locations of places that people have inscribed onto your continental map. This is an easy way for you to keep track of the things you have promised to do. Be careful, only 16 quests will be recorded at a time! The logbook updates the list by clearing out the oldest entry, so at any time only 16 entries show. If it is really important, print out the logbook periodically. See Getting Quests for further details.

Campfire icon—Camp
Camp icon. Left clicking this icon will cause you to rest. During rest you will slowly regain lost hit points, spell points, and fatigue. You may camp anywhere outside a city's walls. You may not camp inside a city unless you have purchased or snuck into a room in a tavern and are currently inside the tavern where you have that room. The amount you heal per hour of rest is greatly affected by where you sleep. The nicer the accomodation (ie…expensive), the more you will heal per hour.

Automap icon—Automap/Continental Map
Left clicking Map icon:
Left clicking this icon will bring up your automap parchment, upon which will be inscribed all the places you have currently visited. Pay close attention to this map, it may be the only thing to provide you clues when searching for something.
You can make notes on the map by left clicking the map where you wish to place the note and then typing. Hit Enter to get back the pen or right click the mouse button. You can erase notes by clicking the line you wish to erase and then hitting the ESC key.
Left clicking the compass points on the automap will scroll the map so you can see a larger area. Left clicking the center of the compass will center the map on your location. As a note, any locations that are marked automatically by your automap (ie not by you) will be left of the first character in the sentence. Therefore an inn that is marked on your automap will be to the left of the first character in its name.
Right clicking Map icon:
Right clicking the Automap icon will bring up the Continental Map, from which you can travel to other cities, towns, or villages. You can travel to another place from elsewhere outside in the world of Tamriel. You must exit an interior first to travel to another city.
ESC key
Setup menu. This will pause the game and bring up an option menu from which you will be able to do the following:

1) Load game
Loads a game from a save list. This will replace the current game.
2) Save game
Save the current game. Hitting the ESC key will abort this option. You may save up to 10 games. Each game will take up about 500K+ of disk space. Make sure you have the room on your hard drive!
3) Detail Bar
Helpful in speeding up gameplay on slower machines. Adjust the detail level to minimum to maximize the speed.
4) Sound (Volume Control)
Allows you to increase or decrease sound effects.
5) Music (Volume Control)
Allows you to increase or decrease the volume of the music.
6) Drop to DOS
Drops out of the game and into the world of DOS.
7) Continue
Exits this screen back to Arena.
Character portrait—Character Sheet
Clicking your name/face along the bottom row will bring up your Character sheet, from which many options are available. For a complete description see the Character Sheet section.

Mouse Controls
The mouse is your direct interface to the world of Arena. You will use it to define actions or choices while exploring the land. As you look at the screen, you will notice that the mouse cursor can change into one of 10 cursors, either an arrow, a sword, or an X. When the mouse is an arrow and the left mouse button is depressed, you will walk into the direction designated by that arrow cursor. The further towards the edge of your screen the arrow gets, the faster you will walk. When the arrow is a sword, it is used to pick or click icons on the walk around menu. When the arrow is an X, whatever is under the X will be interacted with, depending on the mode you are in. For further explanations, see The below.

Jumping is accomplished by clicking the right mouse button while the left mouse button is being depressed. If you are standing still at the time you will jump straight up. If you are running you will do a running broad jump. The distance you can jump is determined by your Strength, and the Speed at which you were running. Since characters with a higher Speed rating can run faster, they will also be able to jump farther.

The X
Placing your X cursor on a monster or door and right clicking will identify the monster or store. Therefore, placing the cursor on an equipment store's door and right clicking will display the equipment store's name, and will inscribe that name onto your automap for future reference.

While the cursor is an X you can manipulate your environment:
Placing the X on another person and clicking your left mouse button will allow you to talk to them, pickpocket them, or cast a spell at them, depending upon what mode your cursor is in. (Normal, Steal, Cast)
Placing the X on a locked door or chest and left clicking will display your assessment of the lock, or allow you to try and unlock it, depending upon what mode you are in. (Normal, Steal)
Placing the X on treasure and left clicking will give you a picklist of the treasure available for you to pick up.
Consult the previous section on Onscreen buttons to get a detailed description of how each is accomplished.

Keyboard
Note: Mouse is required for game to operate correctly.

ESC Setup menu
F1 Character Sheet
F8 Compass on/off toggle
A Attack-weapon draw/sheath toggle
C Cast
J Jump
SHIFT+J Jump forward from standstill
L Logbook
M Automap
SHIFT+M Continental Map
P Pick/Steal
R Rest, Camp option
S Status of character
U Use

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Originally Posted by Phatose

Oblivion was an odd beast. They managed to fix the issues that ruined Morrowind for me, then introduce new and improved design problems to ruin Oblivion for me.

I can only assume there is a Bethesda gene that lets your overlook the vast amount of issue their games have, and I lack it.

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It is probably a virus or a parasite rather than a gene. I enjoyed Morrowind on the second attempt, almost two years after buying it (thank goodness for the Boots of Blinding Speed though!). The first attempt got no where, I didn't like it.

Oblivion I just found rather dull and full of nice ideas executed poorly or not developed enough. A bit wishy-washy. This feeling of "it could be so much better with only a little tweaking" was soothed for a while by mods but eventually all the things that annoyed me got too much and I stopped enjoy myself.

The voice acting is a case in point.

Oblivion: great graphics, great music, and little else going for it.

I was initially very impressed with it at first but once the novelty of great graphics wore off, I started to see the game for what it truly is much more clearly. Shallow fluff.

Way too many map markers that can be instantly teleported to; never sense of getting lost in the wilderness. Main quest is way too short. Side quests are also way too short. The crime system with omniscient and telepathic guards is completely and utterly broken out of the box and sucks all the fun right out of the game. Enemy and loot scaling to your level totally kills any intrigue or sense of exploration or danger the game might have otherwise had. As well as any challenging or memorable areas or encounters that the game might have otherwise had. The NPC character models and voice actors are recycled way too much; the very same characters models and voice actors copy and pasted all over the game and are "supposed" to be different persons in the game.

Ultimately I put Oblivion in the same category of Doom 3: great graphics engine, bad game.

IMO, I think in Oblivion they went for more eye candy instead of content.

I remember in Morrowind, you had like 12 factions not counting smaller ones like the 3 vampire clans, with each of them having a full fledge mission series.

In Oblivion? Just 4 measly factions and far less miscellenious content. To this day, I still haven't done EVERY single quest in Morrowind even though I played it alot for quite a while, but finished basically everything in Oblivion in 60 hours.