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Who do you think you are?!
Got a german friend who brags about how his ancestors burned Rome? Or a greek mate who idolises Alexandros, Achilles and other Greek warriors? Well heres a point i wanna put forward: how do you even know you have anything to do with them?!
Considering how, after the fall of Rome, we have no written records of marriages until the middle ages, we have no way of knowing who we really are! The Vandals passed through France, Spain and the coast of North Africa, so some of the 'spaniards, portugese' and other people could be less rooted to their own country than they may think! as an italian, i wonder if maybe one of my ancestors was a goth, gaul or even hun, considering how my grandfather came from the north of italy, and has blue eyes and fair hair. my grandmother came from the south, but for all i know she was a greek wanna-be! any thoughts on who YOU are?
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go back far enough, and we're all africans. ~:)
in any case, this doesn't really belong in the EB forums.
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My written ancestry can be traced back about 6 generations to Calabria, in southern Italy. Beyond that, I can see your point. I could be descended from native Calabrian Italians, or Greek settlers to southern Italy or most likely an eventual mix of both, maybe with some Roman blood. I doubt my family line was touched by barbaric blood though, as my skin is dark, my eyes brown and my hair black. This could be the possible effects of Carthaginian blood as well. In short, it seems impossible to be absolutely certain of anything, considering written records of ancestry can rarely, if ever, be traced all the way back to EB times. This is why I never use the line "my people conquered half the world" which is a line many Italians like to use, even though they probably have no Roman connection.
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My great uncle times 124 was Alexander the Great :yes:
I have deduced this from the fact that I like horsies....Alexander, in fact, rode horsies. The connection should be blatantly obvious. :yes:
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Meh. I don't even know my own family history beyond two-three generations back, nor do I care a hoot. I also insist on getting them facts straight to my countrymen who have mistaken and exaggerated ideas about some tidbits of history (eg. Hakkapeliitat), mind you...
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Being half-English and half-Calabrese i probably have ancestors of Celtic, Saxon, Norman, Greek, Roman, and God-Knows-What-Else has settled in those countries over the centuries. It hurts my head to think about it.:dizzy2:
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Originally Posted by HopliteElite
This is why I never use the line "my people conquered half the world" which is a line many Italians like to use.
Heh I love that line..... Though pretty much everyone in the world today can claim that and be right....
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I live in Holland my village name sounds very German (Sassenheim) in the very beginning it was called Saksenheim= Home of the Saxons)
So i think i would probably a bear warrior:laugh4:
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I think I am myself. Am I right? :inquisitive:
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I would probably be a Druhtiz Skandzisku, as I am of northern germanic heritage. :smash:
Hmm makes me wonder, if people in the far future will make an EB mod, about us fellows in the 21:th century, and people will figure what kind of unit their ancestors were. :laugh4:
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Going back to 1830, my family comes from Britain and then migrated to Australia. Some didn't so much migrate as were... Deported? I am guessing most of my blood is Anglo-Saxon.
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Originally Posted by Bootsiuv
My great uncle times 124 was Alexander the Great :yes:
I have deduced this from the fact that I like horsies....Alexander, in fact, rode horsies. The connection should be blatantly obvious. :yes:
My name is Phillip, my middle name is Alexander, does that mean we're distant relatives ?
And I love horses too ! Man's greatest conquest
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my grand dad's side is from Zangezur, part of Armenia that withstood Persians and Turks for centuries. my grand mother's side is from Artsakh, another Armenian citadel that wouldnt kneel and is still desputed to this very day... as far back as i can trace all of my ancestory is exclusively Armenian. obviously i cant trace as far back as EB's timeline goes:laugh4: i have a friend who has its all written down to 16th century. they were deported to Persia but returned to Eastern, Russian Armenia with the end of Russian - Persian war.
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Saying that someone descends just from one ancient nation is stupid.
Think a little.
Two generations before you, your grandfathers. 4 people. Three generations, 8 people. 100 generations back, 2**100 ancestors. Try to find where everyone lived.:sweatdrop:
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Originally Posted by Vorian
Saying that someone descends just from one ancient nation is stupid.
Think a little.
Two generations before you, your grandfathers. 4 people. Three generations, 8 people. 100 generations back, 2**100 ancestors. Try to find where everyone lived.:sweatdrop:
Not if you follow the line of your fathers father and his father etc..
My family line goes up to 1625 AC and from from 1816 till 1620 they all lived in the same villages except for there sisters and wifes
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Going back to 1830, my family comes from Britain and then migrated to Australia. Some didn't so much migrate as were... Deported? I am guessing most of my blood is Anglo-Saxon.
Considering how many Jacobites were deported to Australia, its more likely to be Celtic blood.
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I'm an Aussie, but all my ancestors are from the British Isles, mostly Irish. I guess I'm descended from "Celtic" types, although thats a loose term at the best of times.
I have a mate who's Greek, born near Pella. His grandparents were all Pontian Greeks so he feels a strong "Byzantine" heritage ie mixed Black Sea genes.
Looking at him he doesn't have a clasdsic greek profile in fact he often gets mistaken for Persian or Spanish. I reckon he's got a good dash of Pontian blood from the Persians.
After a few drinks we'll start enlarging on the acheivements of our putative ancestors (all in good fun of course, nationalism is bulldust to our ears). he'll wax lyrical about Greek Civilisation and Macedonian conquest. He'll even crack a joke about the Irish wearing dresses. My response is always the same: the Greeks never conquered Ireland, but the Celts over-ran Macedonia.:2thumbsup:
In EB terms I'm one of those hammer weilding Goidels, not the elite armoured ones but the regulation nut-crackers with the hammers.
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Originally Posted by Cyclops
I'm an Aussie, but all my ancestors are from the British Isles, mostly Irish. I guess I'm descended from "Celtic" types, although thats a loose term at the best of times.
I have a mate who's Greek, born near Pella. His grandparents were all Pontian Greeks so he feels a strong "Byzantine" heritage ie mixed Black Sea genes.
Looking at him he doesn't have a clasdsic greek profile in fact he often gets mistaken for Persian or Spanish. I reckon he's got a good dash of Pontian blood from the Persians.
After a few drinks we'll start enlarging on the acheivements of our putative ancestors (all in good fun of course, nationalism is bulldust to our ears). he'll wax lyrical about Greek Civilisation and Macedonian conquest. He'll even crack a joke about the Irish wearing dresses. My response is always the same: the Greeks never conquered Ireland, but the Celts over-ran Macedonia.:2thumbsup:
In EB terms I'm one of those hammer weilding Goidels, not the elite armoured ones but the regulation nut-crackers with the hammers.
My ancestors were Voinu cannibals living in modern-day Belarus. I'm sure about that, oh yes :p.
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Part spain-syrian for mom side.
Russian for dad side both grandmother and grandfather.
so I'm sure I'm mostly russian cuz I dont think Russia was the greatest vacation destination for other peoples around the world.
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I'm a mogrel through and through mainly English and Malay decent but throw a spattering of Portugese and French, although living in Australia I was lucky enough not to be bred from convicts :laugh4:
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I find this topic interesting, mostly because people seem so sure of their ancestry.
For example, my father is 100% Greek (his father came over here from Crete), and my mother is 100% French (her grandfather came over from France).
In reality though, I find it hard to believe that in the past 2000 years, there wasn't a dude from asia minor in there, or a dude from egypt, or maybe one of my mom's ancestors married a dude from britian.
My point is that there is no way in hell that anyone of us is full blooded anything. Nations do not exist in bubbles. Immigration and Emmigration happen every day.
Not only that, but I found out my last name is also very popular in Turkey. How does my dad know he isn't 100% turkish. You never really know. We're all friggin mutts, some more than others.
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I'm German, English, Irish, Scottish, Welsch, and Italian. My great-uncle traced the german part back to the early 19th century. However he traced the english part back to the 12th century.
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go back far enough, and we're all africans. ~:)
Thats if your stupid enoguh to believe in the "theory!" of evolution, btw of which there is noooooo scientific fact. I wont get into specifics of disproving it unless you want me to though.
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Please do.
What's the alternative...Genesis? Pfft. No, I don't think so.
Don't get me wrong I believe in a higher power, but I like to think of it like a top.....He set it spinning, and since then, it's gone on it's own momentum. He observes IMO. There is no direct interference.
*wonders what he just started*
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Thats if your stupid enoguh to believe in the "theory!" of evolution, btw of which there is noooooo scientific fact. I wont get into specifics of disproving it unless you want me to though.
please do, im at work and need a good laugh
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Nothing the Backroom hasn't covfered millions of times in the past. Look at some of the threads started by Navaros if you are interested.
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Yeah, I know, but I still things its a bunch of hogwash....
Evolution is logical and obvious IMO.
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Thats if your stupid enoguh to believe in the "theory!" of evolution, btw of which there is noooooo scientific fact. I wont get into specifics of disproving it unless you want me to though.
God doesn't exist. Incredible how ID'ers try to replace proven scientific fact with faith and lies, the biggest lie being the complete reliance upon an invisible and unproven Hebrew fairy tale.
And such discussions don't belong here.
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I don't see the harm in it....it's relevant to the thread, I suppose.
If anything, the entire thread doesn't belong in here.
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As long as the fundies don't make my stocks fall they can do whatever they want . I doubt they could get the 75% to change the constitution as well .
As you can see I let profits come first before my atheistic beliefs . Hell I'm willing to ditch them if I could make money off of it .