MP seems to be broken

hey guys, im loving single player and i hate to be complaining so much aready but...
multiplayer seems impossible ATM, i have tried with 2 different people to play since it came out. have reinstalled 3x and each time RTW says incompatible game data, it recognizes both of us as having the exact same mod(same numbers and stuff) but still shows up incompatible :wall: . i dont know exactly what you guys might be able to do about this but if you got any ideas i'd love to have them :2thumbsup:

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tried it with 3 people now and smae result however we are getting different version numbers for the new guy segfaulter
mine and icemans are 757BD26E:0
his is 36AESC80:0
again none of them work even though iceman and i had the same number

You may need to have the same map.rwm. Even if you each generate your own map.rwm with the same exact info, they will not be compatible.

Yes, this is the mpa.rwm problem. appearently it seems, that we have forgotten to add one for th multiplayer. :wall: This will be taken care of in the next relase in the meantime someone needs to upload a mp.rwm and provides the link in the mp thread, so all who want to play can dl it.

thanks for the help!

hm have you tested this solution? we are trying it and having no luck, the same problems. We have tried trading Map.rwm's, deleting and one of us makes a new one after starting a new campaign and trading, deleting the map.rwms from both our eb/data folders and trying, still no love ~:mecry: ... heres a pic if it helps any
http://madmatg.googlepages.com/MPwoos.JPG

If you add " createlist" (without the quotes) to the first line of the validation tool batch file, it will create a checklist from your set of files. Then you can send that to the others and have them run it normally. It will tell you what files are different, and you can synchronize those.

ewwww i like it, will give it a try and post back the results

well he aready left for the night dangit, can someone run that and post it for EB 1.0?
i can just compare it with mine and i'll know the map.rwm is different

You need to post the list you generated so your opponent can check his version against it. If you know the map.rwm file is different, that's your problem right there. Synchronize your map.rwm with your opponent.

no i mean can you post yours so i can look at it and compare it with mine, I will know that your map.rwm file is different than mine so i wont look at that, but i will look to see if there are other differences

Er... Mine is the one that comes with the validation tool. That's the way it works: I know it works on my installation, so it compares against that.

hmmm the validation tool doesnt seem to work iwth my comp i think its because i have EB 1.0 at C:\Program Files\ Rome - Total War and my system drive is F:\

it shows all the files are missing inlcuding RomeTW.exe

Then you're probably not running it from the RTW directory.

DOH its too late at night :wall::wall::wall:
thanks for patience

very strange very strange...i downloaded from file font when it was first released and heres what i got

in my EB 1.0 folder

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Missing file: .\data\fmv\atvi_spinning_logo_640x480.wmv
Missing file: .\data\fmv\rome_title.wmv
Changed file: .\data\packs\ui_0.pak (expected checksum f37f1cbd3c14b8e4c8d1a95e133baf16, got 73c3cccb18aad800d2fb5430d8050e09)
Changed file: .\data\settlement_plans\ground_types\barb_town_ground.tga (expected checksum 008308b9c737c746fc1523e793ff3489, got 6e9e2034abf197dd761b43635a47e187)
Changed file: .\data\settlement_plans\ground_types\greek_city_ground.tga (expected checksum e5bde89a68e436c0f3fa6f52a10d9b88, got ea61706954f54035a349cd6ddc928650)
Changed file: .\data\settlement_plans\ground_types\roman_city_ground.tga (expected checksum 99580993e96c70f8e8796595bd550523, got 9cd00663d14cc4792827291a379bb215)
Changed file: .\data\sounds\sfx.dat (expected checksum 2fab94c336dc9e6051937bbc7dff44ef, got 27f4f3986a91be68c9ae0b818888afe2)
Changed file: .\data\sounds\voice2.dat (expected checksum 95f8d895df35b1357e6b23c6ebc21de7, got 9251d85608026ce2fed7a80203b0be2e)
Changed file: .\eb\data\export_descr_unit.txt (expected checksum 02bda1dc6fa9e3c06c1391c17160b927, got 1405963029980a4e38477f892944c9e4)
Changed file: .\eb\data\models_strat\residences\roman_city_buildings.cas (expected checksum 16f167d6fb502a16723b81a2f7c6ca24, got 92a2cef339a1014c48d1b1b7d7fb8235)
Changed file: .\eb\data\packs\mod_0.pak (expected checksum 30af76a625b449ed1261d1fb931fcf95, got 187ef89d359c4be849889d444223dbdb)
Changed file: .\eb\data\sounds\gallic\yell_charge_g02.wav (expected checksum f35dbe306aa2b51cbd2c391ee9057baf, got ecc217bf73b8b20acef329ec86f78e98)
Changed file: .\eb\data\sounds\greek\greek_general_1_group_state_cantabrian_circle_off_1.wav (expected checksum c5fd39359c500ca61f001cada698f7c1, got cb3c852831f9b518537e65ab4d8ad997)
Changed file: .\eb\data\sounds\greek1\greek_heavy_1_group_formation_cavalry_screen_1.wav (expected checksum 28e3b66af90b47670ae28eab4d1a1482, got 0bb0ce2095831c2af682af8c21f25782)
Changed file: .\eb\data\sounds\greek1\greek_heavy_1_group_formation_foot_first_3_lines_3.wav (expected checksum b9f9b343c164748168d7f388ab5a3090, got 71d4c08398f07cb420dd2e477b73679b)
Changed file: .\eb\data\sounds\greek4\greek_heavy_1_group_formation_cavalry_first_3_lines_3.wav (expected checksum 83c2482be457fdb7bcc47b900f73d734, got bc2347296a77bcf288d0c15b7874e25d)
Changed file: .\eb\data\sounds\music\barbbattle43.mp3 (expected checksum 79deeea4f7b341b57516d6537eafbb22, got 713b87cd65d97408dd3b17ff93228e75)
Changed file: .\eb\data\ui\nomad\buildings\#eastern_highkingh_constructed.tga (expected checksum 89aad69473e3c82b880735b2bfeb1c0c, got 2d811ad489d4c93203fdb0692edf1858)
Changed file: .\eb\data\ui\unit_info\egypt\carthaginian_infantry_dorkim_kdoshim_info.tga (expected checksum c8f3957a835651088145350c7b3dbcec, got 6f151e75014a8d77f62b3e111af14ebc)
Changed file: .\eb\data\ui\unit_info\romans_julii\generic_ship_kerkuroi_info.tga (expected checksum c5ca0b5d1676e26d2283784d3f634a86, got 3bb86c8645bf63bcae1a0ca1a18af80c)
Changed file: .\eb\data\ui\unit_info\romans_scipii\celtic_infantry_bagaudas_info.tga (expected checksum 199abb2eb0bd7c7280b1ea549487d8b5, got d37e62714406ce6da5df858741e5d7a9)
Changed file: .\eb\data\ui\unit_info\slave\hellenistic_chariot_scythed_info.tga (expected checksum bb855a0500caaa1c12ec1db8c2353459, got fb63649ced58f7007602f299b8acfee5)
Added file: .\data\fmv\death\thumbs.db
Added file: .\data\fmv\intros\thumbs.db
Added file: .\data\fmv\lose\thumbs.db
Added file: .\data\fmv\senate\thumbs.db
Added file: .\data\fmv\thumbs.db
Added file: .\data\fmv\victory\thumbs.db
Added file: .\data\fmv\wonders\thumbs.db
Added file: .\eb\data\export_descr_unitmp.txt

And when i extracted the EB1.0 install file instead of installing i ran the validation tool on the extracted files, and i'll list the changed ones since hte missing are from it not being in rome folder

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Changed file: .\eb\data\sounds\gallic\yell_charge_g02.wav (expected checksum f35dbe306aa2b51cbd2c391ee9057baf, got ecc217bf73b8b20acef329ec86f78e98)
Changed file: .\eb\data\sounds\greek4\greek_heavy_1_group_formation_cavalry_screen_1.wav (expected checksum ca3ffa9c770735a2a3252fcb717cc61e, got 5364c668351e06ec1594ad499c7e32ef)
Changed file: .\eb\data\sounds\greek5\greek_heavy_1_group_formation_column_3.wav (expected checksum cd5c785a4bfc095590eb8a9be67b2593, got c779df90f1777ec5cf0a7e6c4c0f40ab)
Changed file: .\eb\data\sounds\greek5\greek_heavy_1_group_order_rally_1.wav (expected checksum 4dd7fc88442984ae8bd15a62fc19d098, got 4d7791d5172e69714d96fa40303c7a43)
Changed file: .\eb\data\sounds\greek5\greek_heavy_1_unit_state_fire_at_will_on_1.wav (expected checksum 31b186cec5f45272769808dd88b54871, got ae8998006b06e44a78d66f31024acf27)
Changed file: .\eb\data\sounds\music\eb_semitic_mobilize.mp3 (expected checksum c530f9024c5c9716006fc1de6cd8c8f3, got 2a0d180619ac220ff289d4a74b426d28)
Changed file: .\eb\data\ui\eastern\portraits\cards\young\civilians\029.tga (expected checksum 920e7eae7c1242d69d9dbfdb2fec8ec7, got 9267dcdb43a9df380ce62e30cfd2fe44)
Changed file: .\eb\data\ui\unit_info\macedon\generic_ship_pentere_info.tga (expected checksum 65864dcfd7278c9b28a5626518340616, got 09150a0c1c4bbfbb11888b88c493dd35)
Changed file: .\eb\data\ui\unit_info\parthia\hellenistic_infantry_uazali_info.tga (expected checksum bb5c8a63dda98ebb49d7624473183313, got f7512c4f183668edc94851fccef3c8ea)
Changed file: .\eb\data\ui\unit_info\slave\generic_ship_oneraria_info.tga (expected checksum 79bab9eb60bf08a1a06d499ea4ab3856, got 2fdcc8929244a3dc097fac357c58d06f)
Changed file: .\eb\data\ui\unit_info\thrace\hellenistic_infantry_thureophoroi_info.tga (expected checksum 3b0b4d1d22d9d2e37b805ca971f744f5, got 2a8ad0d1ea579c65e030ddbf8dfd4efa)

I'm assuming this means my download was somehow bad so i'm redownloading it now

That's really odd. But I think it explains your problems with playing multiplayer.

one thing to think about is we have tried this with other people playin EB MP and had same results so it may not just be me... this is very strange indeed

now im really confused, after downloading the bit torrent file i have reinstalled and am getting the same eb files being changed

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Changed file: .\data\packs\battle_open.pak (expected checksum ee003ec19cb9133f48c817219c7d2e62, got f57792a16a907a7010dc962a75ab4861)
Changed file: .\data\packs\patch_0.pak (expected checksum 7162e431d91c9f898954dfefb1dd04ea, got 17888f3b72481a8840a9f2a0da58c9cf)
Changed file: .\data\settlement_plans\ground_types\barb_town_ground.tga (expected checksum 008308b9c737c746fc1523e793ff3489, got cc3847306c25639546eef7ccb30bed9f)
Changed file: .\eb\data\sounds\gallic\barbarian_gallic_group_order_missile_attack_fast_2.wav (expected checksum 222bdca9e0e776e280c89611b5123d79, got 44af51ee6f49f663bec6626c5e51076a)
Changed file: .\eb\data\sounds\greek\greek_general_1_unit_move_fast_3.wav (expected checksum c254efe7038c2fe4e8e4239014e7d872, got 28cfdb425b97c0b4061a948436dc15c6)
Changed file: .\eb\data\sounds\greek1\greek_heavy_1_group_state_cantabrian_circle_on_3.wav (expected checksum a710310c4cf2beaad9c1e06bc7951abc, got 42e2c2de10d854916a728b828836cc92)
Changed file: .\eb\data\ui\carthaginian\interface\sharedpage_01.tga (expected checksum 0c64aafddd1928af69ce82a5da6c94d8, got 2870fb7fec8cae7c1e25b7af5fc90360)
Changed file: .\eb\data\ui\roman\interface\sharedpage_00.tga (expected checksum fe737293bf3e1c1a647981adaefd2719, got bc01fb75e6165f1eae251e250c71e7af)
Changed file: .\eb\data\ui\unit_info\parthia\roman_infantry_camillan_rorarii_info.tga (expected checksum 8c0c2a71bac754a6294dad3d8bf65c3c, got 5e4561cca79e1db34a49e16f57443182)
Changed file: .\eb\data\ui\unit_info\romans_scipii\hellenistic_skirmisher_cavalry_hippakontistai_info.tga (expected checksum e404308de4ceb6cabd2bc0d1d38c659c, got 6caa995080469eb8be6ae4b655a788dd)
Changed file: .\eb\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign\custom_tiles\gardens.wfc (expected checksum 5557ab840d496623474b6e6fd33499c2, got 8a25050a1bcb56897de529ac6ff8d419)

Which character set do you have? I notice that the files in question are binary (non-text), and I know some of our Chinese friends have had problems when using the installer on their character set, perhaps some others also cause problems. In their case, manually extracting with 7-zip seems to work, so you could try that.

The files under ./data that are "changed" are not from the EB installer. You should be able to restore those by installing a clean 1.5 RTW.

Have you tried to play mp with the RTW.exe instead of the bi one?

yes i never use BI

No madmatg no, MP does not "seem" to be broken MP "IS" broken.

I remember the first verions of .8 had a problem with the map.rwm, but that was solved in the last update of .81.

However, in 1.0 not only is the map.rwm messed up so is the unit roster of the factions.:wall: Yes the name was chaged on the mp file but there are A LOT of units missing, especially with the Romani. Madmatg tried to put Classical hoplites in the KH roster but couldn't. I later checked the roster of some factions after mad added some units but heck there were still a lot of guys missing. :dizzy2:

We will probably try again sometime soon and do some new teawking, and let you of the results. But if you fellas are going to fix this thing, PLZ do not forget about the units.

i think its all figured out now, im playing fine with boru87 over hamachi now, so that new map.rwm file seemed to have worked; on the topic of the validation tool, maybe something on my computer makes it act funny, everytime i run it(3 times in a row to be sure) it comes up with something different being changed or added, it seems to find different files everytime that are not correct, but i can still play on MP so my comp must be doin soemthing funy with your validation tool

That is really odd. It reads all the files and creates a checksum, matching it to that of mine. It shouldn't come up with different results on the same file.

ya i know, maybei t has something to do with me doing other programs whjile its working, may be messing with its ability to do what it needs to do