Persistent Roma CTD ...

I haven't posted enough at the ORG to know whether "bumping" a thread is allowable. Since my post about this persistent CTD is in someone else's thread, I thought I would put this at the top of the list.

The situation is simple. The year is 271bc (Winter), and I am playing as the Romans. Manius Dentatus is the faction leader, and is in Roma.

Every time I click on the Recruitment tab in Roma, I get a CTD. If I try to move Dentatus out of Roma by clicking on his portrait in the Family Tree, I get a CTD. If I try to access Recruitment by going to another city, clicking on Recruitment, and advancing to Roma, it works until I get to the eternal city, then ... a CTD.

I've validated the install, and it's all right. Follows my savegame:

http://uploaded.to/?id=219wym

I would really appreciate it if someone would address this. Thanks!

Many people have problems with that guy. I think it may be an ancillary that he picks up that screws it up. I can't get it to happen in a campaign that I start, and I can't see what ancillaries he has got because it crashes when I try to see in the savegames posted. Can you remember the ancillaries he has received recently? I see you mention "Auctoritas", but I can't see that in the files, the closest is Office of Censor, which includes the word.

As a workaround, move him out of Rome (using the Army tab), then do what recruitment you need to do and put him back in.

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Originally Posted by bovi

Many people have problems with that guy. I think it may be an ancillary that he picks up that screws it up. I can't get it to happen in a campaign that I start, and I can't see what ancillaries he has got because it crashes when I try to see in the savegames posted. Can you remember the ancillaries he has received recently? I see you mention "Auctoritas", but I can't see that in the files, the closest is Office of Censor, which includes the word.

As a workaround, move him out of Rome (using the Army tab), then do what recruitment you need to do and put him back in.

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Thanks, Bovi. I'll try to find some way to move him out of the city.

I told you the way to move him out of the city... Use the Army tab.

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Originally Posted by bovi

I told you the way to move him out of the city... Use the Army tab.

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No offense intended, Bovi.

However, clicking on the Army tab also results in a CTD. I'm very tempted to start a new campaign, and move him out of the city at the very beginning.

I could move him by
*click once on the settlement
*click once on the Army tag
*click once on the guy's portrait
*move him somewhere with a right-click in a green area

If this crashes on your computer, I have no idea why.

I had the problem until BI was removed, also I keep the faction leader in Rome and use the Heir to take care of all business. I am on year 260 and I have found a suitable character to build into a future faction leader and he leads all my battles at this time. I will keep him as my general until he reaches 45 or my current faction leader dies.:egypt:

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Originally Posted by bovi

I could move him by
*click once on the settlement
*click once on the Army tag
*click once on the guy's portrait
*move him somewhere with a right-click in a green area

If this crashes on your computer, I have no idea why.

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Tried them all! However, I "bit the bullet" and went to an earlier save (Winter, 272), and moved him out of Roma immediately. I've since been able to play up to Winter of 269, have taken Taras, and have Bononia under siege.

I'm also going to do a complete search of a very large harddrive for any remnant of BI (as Narhon said). There could be something out there that caused the problem in the first place.

Thanks for you patience!

bovi,

"Avctoritas" is the second level of the "Dignitas" trait. You were probably serching on "Auctoritas".

Ah, thanks.

Bovi, I noted in my last post that I would search my harddrive for remnants of BI. I found them, at last. In fact, the entire program was in a location I would never have found, without the search function. I haven't got the slightest idea why it was there.

So, I'll keep playing and see if there's a difference.

EB appears to install in two different places. One is the place you put it in, the other is:

C:\Documents and Settings\**\Application Data\Europa Barbarorum

The stars being your name or whatever it says on your log-in screen. The folder is hidden. Go to start, control panel, folders, enable the viewing of hidden folers and check it out. I have no idea why it does this...

That is not quite right. It does put the files there temporarily when installing, but all the files are deleted afterwards. The folder structure remains though, for some strange reason.

You are correct, I installed some versions of EB that didn't go to a RTW install, so I could have some backup files, and for whatever reason those installs remained in application data also. If it is installed to a copy of RTW, the files seem to get deleted.

Just out of curiosity, I went back to the savegame that was giving me trouble, prior to my finding that I still had BI on my harddrive. That savegame functioned perfectly.

Since getting rid of the "secret" installation of BI, I haven't had a single problem with EB.

This might be important. I don't understand how, but at least on my computer, the presence of BI affected EB after one of the characters received a trait, that of "Auctoritas".

If anyone else is having trouble with this problem, or other problems for which an answer cannot be found, search you entire harddrive for the presence of BI, and delete it. Then, reload EB and see if it works as intended.

That's pretty odd though, as many have got the game to work using BI. But I'm happy that you have got your installation working again. Enjoy :beam:.