Should school be compulsory in my Republic?

Kids. They're EVERYWHERE. It's as if the generals and governors feed their sons miracle-gro or something, because ive got a surplus of family members. and most of the time armies already have skilled generals and cities have more qualified governors. so what i wanna know is, is it worth sending them to academy's and the like? i was under the impression they only benefited from them if they came of inside a city WITH a school. but from what i read in the agoge thread, it seems skills can be gained when sent to a school. if so, what bonuses actually come of education? cheers

Lots and lts and lots, far too many to list. Especialy managerial/infulencl ones. And all the best ancilaries as well.

You should definetly have a city with the highest school built... In my campaigns i have all the non esential FM in this kind of a city. Definetly move all the weak FM in this kind of city:yes:

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Originally Posted by Long lost Caesar

Kids. They're EVERYWHERE. It's as if the generals and governors feed their sons miracle-gro or something, because ive got a surplus of family members. and most of the time armies already have skilled generals and cities have more qualified governors. so what i wanna know is, is it worth sending them to academy's and the like?

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No, I prefer sending them to the front as cannon fodder, especially the dull/uncharismatic/langorous ones. If they survive their first battles, they tend to become extremely great generals because I use them for such brave against-all-odds-charges. My best general in my Romani campaign was created that way :balloon2:

All good points and thanks for the advice, but i have another question: traits and abilities are genetic, but will a son get said abilities if his dad LEARNS the skills in an academy? seems a bit far fetched that a son could inherit school skills, but thatd be awesome!

Build a level 3 school in your capital or most important city, preferably in your homeland for RPing reasons, and send all 16-year olds there, but don't let them govern. If they aren't the governor of the city they will get the traits and ancilleries a lot faster.

I had a level 3 academy built in Roma, i sent generals there from 16-20, even the dull ones became good administrators. Then another 4 years governing a city. After that, the ones that showed military promise (or at least no -morale -command traits) were then sent as an apprentice general to fight alongside a proper general until they were 30, after which point i would either give them their own army if one was needed (often wasn't as 3 full legions were enough and i had about 80 family members) or put them as governor of a city. The ones that kept some promise as capable military leaders were then called upon to replace the aged generals when needed.

Im pretty sure this is not possible and it wouldn't really be realistic either, but you can always steal the fathers ancillaries and stick them with the son!

Schools are very important although expensive in the beginning. I start with one in my capital and gradually add them to the next most influential cities. Eventually I like all of my cities to have them. But I will always train my FM in a big city first.

Schools? Bleh, we don't need schools! All kids need to learn is how to shoot a bow and arrow and how to wield a sword!

Yes, where are the people teaching the children of today proper phalanx drill?

It does even a budding military mind good to read Xenephon and the great treatises on war. And it would be nice if they could do the mathematics when they are tribunes overseeing the supplies.

Plus, there's a reasonable chance of a minor rebellion nearby to blood them.

Learn by doing!!

Sometimes the system just forces someone to govern, even though there's (in my opinion) a more suitable candidate in the city.

The governor is always the one with the most management scrolls. A new gov. is only appointed if someone enters the town who has more scrolls. So, always keep a level-10 governor in this town and he will always rule.

I have the highest level school built in Roma, and I always try to send my young generals to be educated there, especially the Patricii.

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Originally Posted by Intranetusa

Schools? Bleh, we don't need schools! All kids need to learn is how to shoot a bow and arrow and how to wield a sword!

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Stick to this, o my barbarian friend. When my well-educated roman youngsters :book: will visit your lands they will certainly be glad to take care of your brave sons, storming valiantly towards the orderly row of roman spears and swords or banging their heads on our city walls :wall: . For sure they will be helpfull by getting those young heroes a nice place at the table of the gods... .

"they may be tough, but they will be surrounded" :logic:

~;)

In my campaign as QuarthHadast, there are idiot teachers at the academy. Every promising young guy I send there gets stunningly incompetent oder other traits that make him absolutely impossible to be useful.
I built a new lvl3-school in Massalia, so they learn now about cold winters and barbarian raids instead of decadence and extravagance :laugh4:

PS: I know it must have happened by accident, but moving the educational center was surprisingly efficient. Also, the young men are now closer to the regions they will govern when educated.

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Originally Posted by Meothar

In my campaign as QuarthHadast, there are idiot teachers at the academy. Every promising young guy I send there gets stunningly incompetent oder other traits that make him absolutely impossible to be useful.
I built a new lvl3-school in Massalia, so they learn now about cold winters and barbarian raids instead of decadence and extravagance :laugh4:

PS: I know it must have happened by accident, but moving the educational center was surprisingly efficient. Also, the young men are now closer to the regions they will govern when educated.

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Don't worry about this "stunningly incompetent"-trait. It is a temporary thing for beeing in a city with the "wrong" governement (according to the character's preferences). It is the same when you led young Athenians do the Agoge in Sparta: they'll lose that trait as soon as they are back in Athens or any other non-homeland province.

As KH I've had that same problem with Athens--all the students in the huge school there have become stunningly incompetent, and they've managed to make the people very unhappy despite not being governors:no: So now Corinthian academics are preparing to rival those of Athens.