Greenest Hypocrites of 2007

As told by JunkScience.com

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Here are green hypocrisy’s top 10 poster children for 2007.

1. Al Gore’s Inconvenient Lifestyle. While the former veep and nouveau-$100 millionaire jets around the world squawking about the “planet having a fever” and demanding that we all lower our standard of living, his own personal electricity use is 20 times the national average, including an indoor pool costing $500/month to heat.

While Gore deflected criticism of his inconvenient electric bill during March congressional testimony by saying he purchased “green” electricity, the truth is, he didn’t start doing so until 2007.

2. Google’s Sky Pig. A photo-op of Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin plugging-in a hybrid car was part of the search engine giant’s June announcement promising carbon neutrality by 2008. But how this PR-fluff squares with the so-called “Google party jet” — Page and Brin’s gargantuan personal Boeing 767, which burns about 1,550 gallons/hour — is any one’s guess.

3. RFK Jr. Tilts at Windmills. Outspoken global warming activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr. recently railed against coal-produced electricity because “climate change is the most urgent threat to our collective survival.”

Meanwhile, Kennedy vigorously campaigns against a proposed Cape Cod wind farm that would generate CO2-free electricity because it would “impoverish the experience of millions of tourists and residents and fishing families who rely on the sound's unspoiled bounties.” Unmentioned in Kennedy’s tirades, however, is the windmill’s unfortunate proximity to his family’s famed Hyannis Port compound.

4. The U.N.’s ‘Bali High’. Early December will witness 10,000 climateers descending upon the paradisiacal island resort of Bali for the 13th annual U.N. global warming meeting. The reason for much jet and limo travel — and other prodigious greenhouse gas generating activity associated with such a mega-conference — is relatively modest: setting the agenda and timeframe for a post-Kyoto treaty. Sure seems like something that could have been handled in a less carbon-intensive way — either by Internet and video conferencing or, if meeting is necessary, somewhere in North America or Europe where most key attendees are based.

5. Nancy Nukes Nukes. Supposedly concerned that “global warming and energy independence…have profound implications for our nation’s economic competitiveness, national security, environmental quality and public health,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi created the House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming to take the congressional lead on those issues.

So who did Speaker Pelosi pick to chair the committee? None other than long-time nuclear power opponent Rep. Ed Markey, D-Mass., who appeared with anti-nuke celebrities Bonnie Raitt and Jackson Browne at an October Capitol Hill press conference to denounce legislation promoting the development of ultra-green nuclear power.

6. Every home a Superfund site? “Mercury is highly toxic to everyone, but particularly to children and developing fetuses,” says the activist group Environmental Defense, a long-time campaigner against mercury from power plant emissions and in automobile convenience lighting.

So it came as quite a surprise when the group began advocating that consumers bring the “highly toxic” mercury into their homes in the form of compact fluorescent light bulbs in order to reduce power plant CO2 emissions. CFLs are so hazardous, according to public health officials however, that special safety precautions must be taken for disposal or if the bulbs break.

7. Doesn’t everyone own a NASA scientist? In March 2007, NASA’s climate alarmist-in-chief James Hansen criticized “special interests” campaigning against climate regulation.

“By larding the campaign coffers of numerous politicians, the fossil fuel industry has succeeded in subverting the democratic principle…Until the public indicates sufficient interest, and puts pressure on political systems, special interests will continue to rule.”

Though Hansen poses as a humble civil servant, it recently came to light that his alarmist efforts have been bankrolled by leftist billionaire and MoveOn.org sugar-daddy George Soros. Doesn’t Soros qualify as a “special interest,” Dr. Hansen?

8. Like a Virgin’s Carbon Footprint. London’s Daily Mail reported (“What planet are they on?, July 7) on the climate consciousness of Madonna and other Live Earth performers.

“[T]he pop stars headlining the concerts are the absolute antithesis of the message they promote with Madonna leading the pack of the worst individual rock star polluters in the world… Madonna alone has an annual carbon footprint of 1,018 tons… the average Briton produces just 10 tons… [her] Confessions tour last year produced 440 tons of carbon pollution in just four months, simply in flights between venues.”

That’s one small footprint for the average Brit, but one giant footprint for celebrity-kind.

9. The NBC Poppycock. NBC-Universal kicked-off of its “Green is Universal” initiative by dimming the studio lights — but not two giant video screens and advertisements — during a break in the Nov. 4 Cowboys-Eagles game.

Candle-lit host Bob Costas then cut to video of Today show personalities Matt Lauer, Al Roker and Ann Curry reporting about climate change from the Arctic, Amazon and Antarctic, respectively. None gave even a nod to the energy-hogging effort required to send them and crews to do such pointless broadcasts from exotic locales.

10. California’s Hypocritenator. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger declared in June 2005 that, “California will be a leader in the fight against global warming…the time for action is now.”

But just two years later, the Los Angeles Times reported that state efforts had been derailed by the governor’s mismanagement and deceit. Schwarzenegger even fired the state’s chief regulator for refusing to limit the number of greenhouse gas regulations. Columnist Debra Saunders noted that, “Schwarzenegger boasts that he is a world leader in the fight against global warming — but his advocacy shouldn't keep him from flying in private jets or driving a Hummer.”

The one thing these honorees all have in common is that their real-life actions belie their carefully crafted green public images. If they don’t take their commitment seriously, why should you?

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Feel free to discuss- overall, or any item in particular. :bow:

11. Oklahoma's average joe. Joe Stevens of Choctaw Oklahoma lives in an ordinary size house and drives a honda civic. He is also an environmentalist, just like millions of other ordinary Americans.

I'm not sure what you want us to discuss. People can be hypocrites. That does not completely invalidate their supposed stance.

Choctaw is a terrible place to live.

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Originally Posted by CrossLOPER

I'm not sure what you want us to discuss. People can be hypocrites. That does not completely invalidate their supposed stance.

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This is true. I just find it interesting that so many of the people who are out trying to convince us to give up so much are themselves sucking up resources and responsible for pollutants at a rate or 10, or even 100 times what the average person does.

What about leading by example?

One would think, though, that if they believed their cause to be as crucial as they say it is, they wouldn't do such hypocritical actions.

CR

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

This is true. I just find it interesting that so many of the people who are out trying to convince us to give up so much are themselves sucking up resources and responsible for pollutants at a rate or 10, or even 100 times what the average person does.

What about leading by example?

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How about instead of discussing gay marriage we discuss how hypocritical larry craig is?

How about instead of discussing whether the iraq war was right we talk about how bush served in the national guard instead of the army during vietnam?

How about instead of talking about how to deal with illegal immigrants we just talk about how tancredo's grandfather was an immigrant?

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

How about instead of discussing gay marriage we discuss how hypocritical larry craig is?

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Lemur started a thread to bash gay Republicans. Check it out.

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How about instead of discussing whether the iraq war was right we talk about how bush served in the national guard instead of the army during vietnam?

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Been done. But if it's something you want to talk about again, start a thread.

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How about instead of talking about how to deal with illegal immigrants we just talk about how tancredo's grandfather was an immigrant?

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Was his grandfather an illegal immigrant? Not that it has anything to do with the thread- Im just curious.

You obviously think the fact that some people who are asking us to sacrifice so much to supposedly 'save the world' are apparently unwilling to sacrifice anything themselves(thus being hypocrites) isn't worthy of discussion. Noted. :bow:

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To me, the most interesting one is #6. CFLs are being pushed on us from green groups all the way down to WalMart. However, each one of them contains what's considered (at least by some agencies) unsafe levels of mercury. I encourage anyone to try to find a convenient location to properly dispose of / recycle these things. The only option I found was a service that you had to pay for and it involved Fed-Ex'ing your old bulbs to their location. Do you think the average consumer will do this? Heck no, they'll go in the trash and end up polluting landfills with mercury or even worse, being incinerated. What an environmental panacea, huh? :no:

I probably agree about all those hypocrits.

However it's worth taking a look at our Mr Milloy's credentials:

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Steven J. Milloy is a columnist for Fox News and a paid advocate for Phillip Morris, ExxonMobil and other corporations. From the 1990s until the end of 2005, he was an adjunct scholar at the libertarian think tank the Cato Institute.

Milloy runs the website Junkscience.com, which is dedicated to debunking what he alleges to be false claims regarding global warming, DDT, environmental radicalism and scare science among other topics.[1] His other website, CSR Watch.com, is focused around attacking the corporate social responsibility movement. He is also head of the Free Enterprise Action Fund, a mutual fund he runs with tobacco executive Tom Borelli, who happens to be listed as the secretary of the Advancement of Sound Science Center, an organisation Milloy operates from his home in Potomac, Maryland .

Milloy holds a B.A. in Natural Sciences from the Johns Hopkins University, a Master of Health Sciences in Biostatistics from the Johns Hopkins University School of Hygiene and Public Health, a Juris Doctorate from the University of Baltimore, and a Master of Laws from the Georgetown University Law Center.[2]

In January 2006, Paul D. Thacker reported in The New Republic that Milloy has received thousands of dollars in payments from the Phillip Morris company since the early nineties, and that NGOs controlled by Milloy have received large payments from ExxonMobil [3]. A spokesperson for Fox News stated, "Fox News was unaware of Milloy's connection with Philip Morris. Any affiliation he had should have been disclosed."

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From Sourcewatch.com

Great find idaho, just laughed about that.

I think the proverb "The pot calling the kettle black" seems to be in order here.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

How about instead of discussing gay marriage we discuss how hypocritical larry craig is?

How about instead of discussing whether the iraq war was right we talk about how bush served in the national guard instead of the army during vietnam?

How about instead of talking about how to deal with illegal immigrants we just talk about how tancredo's grandfather was an immigrant?

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Mod :spammer: .

In less there is a hidden point I'm missing. Are you taking lessons from Louis? :inquisitive:

While Idaho cites good information it's also just another attack.

Every diehard enviromentalist who doesn't commit suicide is a hypocrite imho.

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Originally Posted by Idaho

I probably agree about all those hypocrits.

However it's worth taking a look at our Mr Milloy's credentials:


From Sourcewatch.com

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By just taking a look at the front page, one can see that this Junkman's intention is not to spread science, but to propagate against man made global warming. No one to take seriously when it comes to science in other words. :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Viking

By just taking a look at the front page, one can see that this Junkman's intention is not to spread science, but to propagate against man made global warming. No one to take seriously when it comes to science in other words. :laugh4:

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So if my intention is to spread my seed instead of spreading science should I not be taken seriously either? Or how about if I spread butter and jam over a freshly toasted English muffin?

How can I take you seriously when it comes to vetting a source?

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

This is true. I just find it interesting that so many of the people who are out trying to convince us to give up so much are themselves sucking up resources and responsible for pollutants at a rate or 10, or even 100 times what the average person does.

What about leading by example?

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If this was the aim of this argument, why did you just happen to pick "green" hypocrites? Maybe I'm just nit-picking...

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Originally Posted by Xiahou

Was his grandfather an illegal immigrant? Not that it has anything to do with the thread- Im just curious.

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Last I heard Tancredo was against ALL immigration.

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Originally Posted by Vladimir

So if my intention is to spread my seed instead of spreading science should I not be taken seriously either? Or how about if I spread butter and jam over a freshly toasted English muffin?

How can I take you seriously when it comes to vetting a source?

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He does not care about whether global warming is man made or not; in his world man made global warming is not possible. He does not support his views with real science; despite that the website is supposedly scientific.

For instance this sentence:

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A "leading debunker" of global warming by Rolling Stone magazine.

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No scientist doubt global warming, we can all see it in the temperature data. As a scientific correct site one expect the phrasing to be correct and not direclty misleading like that.

Really, take a quick glance at the webpage and tell me it is not biased. :laugh4:

(and by biased I mean they have already found the truth on that site. no scientist may ever come and say humans ever affect the climate!)


Edit: LOL, browsing some more at that website's frontpage; it is truly ridiculous in scientific sense.

In tune with the opening post:

"You know, the Gore-leone crime family is now the number one crime family in the world, when you think about it. He's about to pull off the biggest scam in the history of the world. It's bigger than any bank heist, bigger than any drug deal. It's bigger than any counterfeiting scheme, and he's doing it all nice and natural with a little help from the socialist perverts in Norway, who gave him a Nobel Prize. Why do I call them socialist perverts? Answer: because they are. By and large, 90 percent of the people on the Nobel Committee are into child pornography and molestation, according to the latest scientific studies."

-- nationally syndicated radio host Michael Savage

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Originally Posted by Lemur

In tune with the opening post:

"You know, the Gore-leone crime family is now the number one crime family in the world, when you think about it. He's about to pull off the biggest scam in the history of the world. It's bigger than any bank heist, bigger than any drug deal. It's bigger than any counterfeiting scheme, and he's doing it all nice and natural with a little help from the socialist perverts in Norway, who gave him a Nobel Prize. Why do I call them socialist perverts? Answer: because they are. By and large, 90 percent of the people on the Nobel Committee are into child pornography and molestation, according to the latest scientific studies."

-- nationally syndicated radio host Michael Savage

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That's actually kinda funny. Let no one say Michael Savage doesn't have a flair for the dramatic. (Although there are a few other things he doesn't have- like sanity.):laugh4:

*Although, Gore is still a huge hypocrite who's making millions off of frightening people with global warming hype.

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Originally Posted by Lemur

Answer: because they are. By and large, 90 percent of the people on the Nobel Committee are into child pornography and molestation, according to the latest scientific studies."

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There are 5 people on the committee. How can there be a 90%? :laugh4:

One of the is only half a pedophile, dummy.

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Originally Posted by Lemur

One of the is only half a pedophile, dummy.

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I would love to hear an explanation of what "half a pedophile" is.... :beam:

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Originally Posted by HoreTore

I would love to hear an explanation of what "half a pedophile" is.... :beam:

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About as big as a kid naturally.

I think we should all follow in the Green crowd's example. Let's send a message by burning all the world's oil fields and refineries. Really light 'em up! When all of their profits are going up in smoke, maybe then Big Oil will listen.* :2thumbsup:

In the interest of full disclousure, Don Corleone received subsidies and stipends exceeding $10million US from MoveOn.Org. They in no way influenced his opinions whatsoever and anyone that thinks they might have is obviuosly a closeted, self-loathing homosexual with identity issues.

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In the interest of full disclousure, Don Corleone received subsidies and stipends exceeding $10million US from MoveOn.Org. They in no way influenced his opinions whatsoever and anyone that thinks they might have is obviuosly a closeted, self-loathing homosexual with identity issues.

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Third time. I think the Don is trying to tell us something.