Strangest development of other faction in your campaign?

Question: What is the strangest development of another faction in your campaign?

For 4-5 campaigns, about 20 years in, Koinon Hellenon have always been wiped out by Makedonia, except in my most recent Pontos-campaign. Now, the Makedonians have been reduced to an puny island kingdom of Lesbos where they just camp. Koinon Hellenon has successfully conquered all mainland Makedonian holdings and are now fighting the Getai over the control of Serdike.

The Getai is constantly fighting against the Swêbóz, the main concern seems to be Ak-Ink which has been taken and retaken by both sides numerous times.

Rome actually captured Sicily in one of my campaigns!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Skandaz.Imperator

Question: What is the strangest development of another faction in your campaign?

For 4-5 campaigns, about 20 years in, Koinon Hellenon have always been wiped out by Makedonia, except in my most recent Pontos-campaign. Now, the Makedonians have been reduced to an puny island kingdom of Lesbos where they just camp.

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Curious. In my campaigns the makedonians always get beaten. Normally, they conquer quite lot of territories in the north and east - while losing their homelands at the same time . In the end, they most often ended up with a single territory, either Lesbos or Bithynia, once even Kyrenaia (came to them by revolt). Never seen them being successful. Quite amusingly, they ended up with a thoroughly mad king twice - I had to free his people from his slavery (and send them into mine :laugh4: )

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Originally Posted by Skandaz.Imperator

Now, the Makedonians have been reduced to an puny island kingdom of Lesbos where they just camp.

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They're just camping for now. If they're anything like the Maks who did that in my Pontos game, they'll wait until you pull your field army out of western Anatolia and replace them with cheapo garrison troops. Then they'll backstab you. With 43 units, in my game.

That was an "interesting" few turns...

Well the latter won't happen to me (AS): the KH has tried to land on Lesbos twice and take it from the Maks only to get beaten horribly. Now their army is refitting on the shores of my Ionia - yeah right: they've recruited the entire Merc population available into their service. So I decided to send that one army with Argyraspides and Kataphraktoi back to Sardis to stare them away again.

(The army was previously sent to deal with the last bits of Epeiros, but if I'm economical on my garrisons I can (easily) manage to hold the territories I have and conquer the rest of Epeiros at the same time.

One of the oddest things that happened in a campaign was when i was plying as the Getai, it was about 260 BC and suddenly it was annoinced the arverni were at war with the Seleucids. I thought it was just one of those strange cases of the AI declaring war for no apparent reason, until a few years later one of my diplomats came across a full Arverni stack in Ancyra! I suppose an Arverni diplomat must have bribed the garrison. Certainly was bizarre though.

Ankyra rebels to the arverni as it is a celtic town.

Their is an Averni controlled province in North Western Turkey.

its only averni controlled b/c it rebelled to them. wasnt it because there were many Galatians(sp?) there, which are like averni?

Not really the weirdest things but interesting: In my campaign as Armenia, the Parthians swept north and drove the Saka west, who then drove the Sarmations into Olbia and the northern Black Sea coast.

In another campaign as the Sweboz, Carthage was expelled from Iberia, but destroyed my Roman allies and conquered Italy. The cities in the newly Punic Italy were underdefended however...
("Letz stomp some Karthiez!")

Current Campaign as Casse:

Epeiros is laying siege to Rome with a terrifically massive army (I wish I could watch that battle!) and has all of southern Italy plus the Dalmatian Coast - but the Getai have started their attack in 251BC and have wrestled Serdike from them. Now there is a three-way standoff at the north of Greece between the Epirotes, Makedonia and the Getai. I'm vouching for the Getai myself!

The Seleucids are getting hammered, they've lost about 8 provinces in as many years fighting the Ptolemaic empire.

Baktria has subjugated the Saka and made them a client kingdom, and are now getting stuck into the Pahlava.

As the Casse, I am rolling in money holding the three eastern provinces in Britain while feeding money and occasionally troops into the war between the Gallic tribes. Now THAT'S fun. I'll probably get nothing out of it, but there's nothing quite like meddling in other people's affairs.

My Romani Campaign somewhere in 230 BC found itself faced against the Averni, Aedui, and Sweboz. Not all of them were allied with each other, but all had declared cease fires. That meant that my beginning expansion into Gaul, Mediolanum and Massilia, were attacked constantly. The only reason why I conquered most of Gaul first, instead of Greece, was because I needed to destroy the Aedui/Arverni/Sweboz unit manufacturing centers.

They kept sending extremely good units, such as Naked Fanatics, that I didnt' have enough cavalry to eliminate. At the same time, I was invested in defending Carthage cause I sent in a naval expedition (which unlike the Romans ones, didn't crash and burn) and took Carthage when it had only 3 defending units. Then took the other 3 provinces around it.

So I was stretched with my main field army in Africa while the barbarians were coming across the borders. It took some years for me to stabilize the situation, but after that it was constant war against Sweboz, Arverni, and Aedui. Whenever I would annihilate (90+% enemy casualties) one of their field armies, the other faction would be right up behind with another nearly full stack.

I never lost any cities but it was quite exciting for awhile, before I broke the backs of the Arverni homeland provinces. After they were knocked out, I could focus on the Sweboz, who controlled Helvetii. Once I gained Helvetti, I could produce much better units such as the Alpine phalanx. But such things took years to build up the necessary infrastructure. All the while, they were attacking emasse, and every province I took to decrease their logistics base, also meant that I was over-extending myself and needed to create more garrison troops.

It was kind of funny how my Romani campaign reversed the Carthage problem so that the Second Punic War never occured, while accelerating Juilius Caesar's Gallic Wars by 2 centuries.

(Transplanted from another thread)

This game has one of the most unusual map divisions I've seen since .80. The Romans have pushed a thick dagger through the middle of Gaul together with their allies the Sweboz, who hold the Normandy coast and are laying siege to the last outpost of the Aedui. The Lusotans have crossed the Pyrenees into Toulouse, the Carthaginians hold all of Magna Graecia except for Syracuse (held by the Romans), the Getai have holdings in Anatolia, Pontos holds Tylis (Byzantion remains independent), the Hai have pushed north into the fringes of the steppe only to be intercepted by the Saka, whose highly successful early blitz migration faltered with the comeback of the Sarmatians to the west and Parthians (whom they almost wiped out at one point, capturing territories as south as Khiva) and Baktrians (me) to the east snatching their earlier gains. Now they are a nomadic duchy located exclusively above the Hai :dizzy2: .

I was playing sweboz campaing, taking my time dealing with gauls. GOT suprised by carts marching in far in enemy lands. Hannibal huh?? CTD killed it so ill never know where they were heading.

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I'm at around 160BC, and was surprised to find KH firstly reduced to a single settlement on the north shore of the Black Sea, then expand to hold the Crimean and around 8-10 provinces in that area. They were pushed north by Epeiros who held all of Greece/Makedonia/Thrace/Balkans. Now Pontos hold the Thracian area, and is pushing Epeiros back west. Pontos also hold 3 quarters of current Turkey, and is beating the Ptolemies back further. I haven't seen the Maks since early on. Rome have a single settlement north of the Alps, and neither the toe nor heel of the boot.

It's very interesting to see all of the different ways that history "could" have played out...

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Originally Posted by Qwas13

I was playing sweboz campaing, taking my time dealing with gauls. GOT suprised by carts marching in far in enemy lands. Hannibal huh??

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Whow. I have never seen the ai doing something so Hannibalesque! It is sad that you don't seem to have a savegame cause of the ctd?

The Makedonians have been reduced to Mytilene, then came back with a fury after husbanding their strength for decades and blasted their way clear to Mazaka. They are besieging Karkathiokerta now, control all southern Asia Minor, and are allied with Pontos who control the north. Darned good stuff.

The Koinon Hellenon, due to a quirk of fate, now occupy exactly the provinces that would correspond to their modern day boundaries. The Epeirotes actually made it to Singidunum before being pounded in the south by KH and in the north by me. The Balkans are now in a threeway fight between the KH, Epeiros and the Getai. I'm not getting involved outside of Illyria and Singidunum (for the Cordinau Orca) just yet.

Casse has not even taken Ynys Mon yet, which I have never seen before, since by the 220s they would already have taken all the British Isles. Oh, and most amazing thing of all, gasp! Despite the money script, AS is expanding in the east. They have an army at Patala, and are encroaching into what has always strictly been Pahlavan territory... Though they are losing ground in the west to Makedonia and Ptolemaioi both.

In one of my games, AS hasn't (yet) lost the Syrian/Assyrian region.






Edit: Several decades into the game, that is.

Pontos campaign, around 220BC: The macedons remained at Lesbos, ever camping and building armies. Koinon Hellenon landed twice with two fully stacked armies, gained a heroic victory against 2 fully stacked Makedonian armies and half a stack city garrison. Thus, Makedonia was the first faction to be destroyed. For the moment, I'm heading towards Mytilene as the KH is still pissed for my conquest of Sinope in 272BC.

In my previous game, Macs controlled Greece for a few dozen years, but it was reduced to Miletos by Epirus, who was pushed to Illyria by KH, which was driven back to Corinth and Sparta by Pontos who took Byzantion, Pella, Ambrakia and Demetrias, who in turn was divided and squished by Macedon, who made its comeback by expanding from Miletos to Ionian Greece to Macedonia and Thessalia. This in some 70 years.

Try figure that out.

Mindboggling, that one. The winds of fate come and go. o.O

In other news, Makedonia is intent on recreating Alex's empire. It's heading east, and is already besieging Edessa and Arbela. Cool. And the AS, though, they're expanding north into the steppes via the Pahlava territories. I've never seen it so far north before. I've had to give the Saka, Sauromatae and Pahlava quite a few hoplitai units to hold them off, otherwise with the stupid autocalc system, the horsearchers would lose everytime.

Still on my first campaign (I'm a RTR vet) in EB, as the Romani. And I really have to say that it's kinda weird in this version of Mediterranean history.

Carthage was quickly expelled from Iberia, and my first movements were to crush the Epirote territories. Within fifty or so turns, all of AS was absorbed by the Ptolemies and Baktria. The Balkans were under Getic control in the north, and almost all of the south was Makedon. Damned if I know how a band of Hellenes escaped the slaughter, slipped past the Thracians and fought off the Sauro Matae long enough to establish a new empire for themselves on the north coast of the Black Sea.

The Casse have stayed in the UK, Aedui rule almost all of Gaul, with a tiny (and hugely defended) settlement in the Swiss Alps remaining in Arverni control.

The Sweboz, for some reason beyond me, had a full stack stuck on an uninhabited island between Denmark and Scandanavia for close to 125 years.

Later, Ptolemies crushed the Hai, and Pontus, Baktria dealt with the Saka, and ended up forcing the Pahlav into India.

Makedon decides it wants turkey for itself, and now own most of it.

Oh, and I bribed the settlement at Charax.

Roman campaign, around 252BC: New campaign tonight, new "strange" things. Saka is pushing Baktria deep into AS territory, like a blue wedge stretching all the way to Persepolis. Ptolemaioi rules Asia Minor and the AS is one settlement away (Seulukia) from being geographically split into a nothern and southern kingdom. Pahlva has one settlement left, Gava-Mazskata, with only 1 army of 5 units and a 3 unit city garrison, Saka Rauka is coming for them too.

The Aedui has, for the first time in all my campaigns, been viciously attacked by the Arverni. Although they don't have lost any territories, they have no armies left and each of their city has a garrison of no more than 3-4 soldiers. It's their whole armies decided to disband. The Arverni on the other hand, roams Gaul with 9-10 fully stacked armies...