This poll is for players in the King of the Romans PBM only. The full text of the proposed laws is:
Charter Amendment 14.1:Antwerp is formally incorporated into the Reich. Proposed: Kaiser Elberhard Seconded: Hugo von Holland, Ehrhart Ruppel
Charter Amendment 14.2: A new Charter for Outremer is to be adopted, what is proposed below will completely replace all previous legislation relating to the Kingdom (Changes are in bold).
The Revised Charter of the Kingdom of Outremer
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1. The Kingdom of Outremer will consist of Antioch, Acre and Adana as its core territories, they cannot be given or bartered away. If they are lost, they must be reclaimed as quickly as possible. The Kingdom may also include up to three more territories, with preference given to Aleppo, Damascus and Edessa. However, no conquest is allowed of any territories belonging to an ally.
2. The Kingdom of Outremer is an integral part of the Reich. It is not a fifth House.
3. The function of the Kingdom is mainly defensive: to safeguard Jerusalem and protect the gateway to Christendom. However, conquest is permitted against heathens and schismatics as long as it does not endanger the defense of Jerusalem. If a Pope assumes power who excommunicates the Reich, Jerusalem may be taken, if needed, as part of his removal, but it must be immediately donated back to the Church upon reconciliation.
4. The Kingdom will be overseen by a Viceroy of Outremer, who will be selected by the Emperor from among the current Crusaders. A Viceroy is appointed by the Emperor at each regular Diet Session. Viceroys may be reappointed. The Viceroy will renounce all loyalties to his House for the duration of his appointment. The Viceroy of Outremer is permitted to resign, if the Emperor is willing to accept the resignation, upon which a new Viceroy is appointed by the Emperor. If the Viceroy of Outremer is deemed incapable of his assignment, he may be impeached by the Emperor and two Dukes, by the Prince and three Dukes, or by the agreement of all four Dukes. Upon removal, the Emperor will appoint a new Viceroy.
5. The Viceroy will command an Army, equivalent to a Household Army with the Viceroy assuming the role of “Duke”. If the Kingdom is larger than or equal to three territories, a second such Army will be placed at his disposal. He may delegate the day to day command of the Army or Armies to other Generals.
6. Outremer’s provinces will be governed by Crusader Counts, except for the designated capital, which is the personal domain of the Viceroy. The Crusader Counts are appointed by the Viceroy and serve at his discretion. They will gain +1 influence, but only if they are not already a Count in their Duchy, and only for the duration of their appointment. The cap of 6 influence for all but the Emperor remains. If any County is left unassigned, the Viceroy will set the build queue for it.
7. Both the Viceroy and the Crusading Counts must be physically located outside Europe for the duration of their appointments.
8. All four Houses of the Reich have a stake in the Kingdom. While the loss of many of the original Outremer Counties currently negates apportionment by House, assignment of Counties will ensure that each Duchy is represented by a Crusader Count if one is present. All efforts will be made to assign a Swabian to Acre and a Bavarian to Adana. Once there are two newly acquired territories, they will be governed by representatives of Franconia and Austria. While historical precedents will be respected, priority will be given to Crusaders who are in Outremer.
9. The Viceroy of Outremer is allowed to propose two pieces of legislation per Diet Session related to Outremer. Prior to being tabled in the Diet, these must be seconded by two Crusaders, or if there is less than two Crusaders, one will suffice.
OOC: The Viceroy will have +2 influence as presently given to the King. All references in the Reich's Charter to the King of Outremer are to be changed to the Viceroy of Outremer.
Proposed: Matthias Steffen Seconded: Dieter Bresch, Dieter von Essen
Charter Amendment 14.4: All Byzantine settlements are to be conquered and incorporated into the Reich by 1500. To demonstrate the moral superiority of the Reich, no captured Byzantine settlements may be exterminated and all loot from them must to be donated to the Papacy. Proposed: Alexander Luther and Kaiser Elberhard Seconded: Hans von Bavaria, Fritz von Kastilien
Edict 14.1: The city of Nikosia will be conquered by the Reich. Proposed: Andreas von Salzgitter Seconded: Matthias Steffen, Hugo de Cervole
Edict 14.2: When and if Franconia has no provinces under siege and both Household Armies are not needed to fight a battle, then either the Prussian Army or the Saxon Army is authorized to conquer Arhus. Proposed: Prinz Peter Seconded: Fredericus Erlach, Matthias Steffen
Edict 14.3: The Chancellor is authorized to conquer Caen, Paris, Rheims, Dijon, Marseilles, Ajaccio, Venice, Bologna, Florence, Rome, Naples, Stettin, Thorn, Breslau, Krakow, Vilnius, Budapest, Bran, Bucharest, Antioch, Adana, and Edessa. Any currently held provinces which are lost to the enemy during this Chancellorship term may also be reconquered. Proposed: Lothar Steffen Seconded: Edmund Becker, Dieter von Essen
Edict 14.4: In the likely case of a Turkish attack on the English in Damascus, a force shall be sent to aid the English if possible and if it seems there is any hope left for the situation. Proposed: Hans von Bavaria Seconded: Andreas vons Salzgitter, Ludwig von Böhmen
Edict 14.5: Wolfgang Hümmel and Dietrich von Dassel will be confined to the Pillory rather than the main Mausoleum proper. Proposed: Ehrhart Ruppel Seconded: Dieter Bresch, Athalwolf von Salza
12-19-2007, 14:30
econ21
Re: 14th Diet Legislation Poll
Memo item:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Warmaster Horus
Sorry guys, I accidentaly voted "yes" on Edict 14.5. Obviously, the former sentence would have no sense if I meant to vote "no".
So, could you guys count it as a "no", instead?
12-20-2007, 13:10
econ21
Re: 14th Diet Legislation Poll
Amendment 14.1:
Yes: AussieGiant (+5), Cecil XIX (+2), deguerra (+3), econ21 (+1), Elite Ferret (+3), FactionHeir (+3), FLYdude, GeneralHankerchief, gibsonsg91921 (+4), Ignoramus, Mini Econ, Northnovas (+3), OverKnight (+6), Privateerkev, Ramses II CP, Stuperman (+3), TinCow (+5), Tristan de Castelreng (+2), vpmd, Warluster (+5), Warmaster Horus (+2), Zim
PASSED NEM CON
Charter Amendment 14.2:
Yes : AussieGiant (+5), Cecil XIX (+2), deguerra (+3), econ21 (+1), Elite Ferret (+3), FactionHeir (+3), FLYdude, GeneralHankerchief, gibsonsg91921 (+4), Ignoramus, Mini Econ, Northnovas (+3), OverKnight (+6), Privateerkev, Ramses II CP, Stuperman (+3), TinCow (+5), Tristan de Castelreng (+2), vpmd, Warluster (+5), Warmaster Horus (+2), Zim
PASSED NEM CON
Charter Amendment 14.4:
Yes:econ21 (+1), GeneralHankerchief, Ignoramus, Mini Econ, Northnovas (+3), Ramses II CP, Stuperman (+3), vpmd, Warluster (+5)
No: AussieGiant (+5), Cecil XIX (+2), deguerra (+3), Elite Ferret (+3), FactionHeir (+3), FLYdude, gibsonsg91921 (+4), OverKnight (+6), Privateerkev, TinCow (+5), Tristan de Castelreng (+2), Warmaster Horus (+2), Zim
FAILS
Edict 14.1:
Yes: AussieGiant (+5), Cecil XIX (+2), deguerra (+3), econ21 (+1), Elite Ferret (+3), FLYdude, GeneralHankerchief, gibsonsg91921 (+4), Ignoramus, Mini Econ, Northnovas (+3), OverKnight (+6), Privateerkev, Ramses II CP, Stuperman (+3), Tristan de Castelreng (+2), vpmd, Warmaster Horus (+2), Zim
PASSED NEM CON
Edict 14.2:
Yes : AussieGiant (+5), Cecil XIX (+2), deguerra (+3), econ21 (+1), Elite Ferret (+3), FactionHeir (+3), FLYdude, GeneralHankerchief, gibsonsg91921 (+4), Ignoramus, Mini Econ, Northnovas (+3), OverKnight (+6), Privateerkev, Ramses II CP, Stuperman (+3), TinCow (+5), Tristan de Castelreng (+2), vpmd, Warmaster Horus (+2), Zim
PASSED NEM CON
Edict 14.3:
Yes : AussieGiant (+5), Cecil XIX (+2), deguerra (+3), econ21 (+1), Elite Ferret (+3), FactionHeir (+3), FLYdude, GeneralHankerchief, gibsonsg91921 (+4), Ignoramus, Mini Econ, Northnovas (+3), OverKnight (+6), Privateerkev, Ramses II CP, Stuperman (+3), TinCow (+5), Tristan de Castelreng (+2), vpmd, Warluster (+5), Warmaster Horus (+2), Zim
PASSED NEM CON
Edict 14.4:
Yes: AussieGiant (+5), Cecil XIX (+2), deguerra (+3), econ21 (+1), Elite Ferret (+3), FactionHeir (+3), FLYdude, gibsonsg91921 (+4), Ignoramus, Mini Econ, Northnovas (+3), OverKnight (+6), Privateerkev, Ramses II CP, Stuperman (+3), Tristan de Castelreng (+2), vpmd, Warluster (+5), Warmaster Horus (+2), Zim
No : GeneralHankerchief, TinCow (+5)
PASSED
