RTW - Persian Invasion

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Persia has the largest empire in history. The small, but free, city-states of Greece struggle to stay unified as they laugh in the face of annihilation. The Dahae, Scythians, Gerrheans, Celts, Illyrians, and even the Indians of the distant jungles plot to one day rule their own empires. How will history play out? You decide!

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RTW - Persian Invasion Beta release for Rtw 1.5 (Final Release);

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Installation instructions and other info is in the enclosed readme file.

This uses the mod switch function so it will not alter your original game files.

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The trouble is we have been trying like heck to get a map working, but we don't have very much experience in the matter. We would like someone to either pick up on the map we have now and get it in working order, or start with a fresh slate if the current one is in too bad of shape.

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You are lucky. I could help.

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Originally Posted by Caius

You are lucky. I could help.

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Excellent! I'll add you to messenger and we'll talk about it. :beam:

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Originally Posted by comrade_general

Excellent! I'll add you to messenger and we'll talk about it. :beam:

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See you on MSN.

Have you guys consider helping Rise of Persia or Hegemonia CS mods instead of making new one?

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Originally Posted by Uranos

Have you guys consider helping Rise of Persia or Hegemonia CS mods instead of making new one?

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We just wanted to do something simple but interesting of our own. This isn't a very major mod, as it is for Alexander (forgot to mention that above, sorry). Best of luck to Rise of Persia and Hegemonia, we aren't going for the hisotorical accuracy so we hope to create a unique history. :beam:

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Website: http://www.pinvasion.co.nr/

Theres about 38 new units as of right now, the map is still in production, and the faction of Eleia has been added.

Very nicely done website :2thumbsup:

When you get more preview stuff I'd recommend putting some thumbnails here as well though, as people are sometimes a bit lazy about clicking through links...

This actually sounds interesting. Why don't you ask the Troy:TW team for thier map?

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Originally Posted by Hound of Ulster

This actually sounds interesting. Why don't you ask the Troy:TW team for thier map?

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First of all thanks :2thumbsup:

Second, Troy:TW's map is too small for our needs. As you can see from the faction list we need room for India, the Dahae, some of Scythia, not to mention the entire Persian Empire, which means some of Egypt too. :yes:

Pretty much something like this, give or take:
http://edsitement.neh.gov/lesson_ima...anEmpire03.jpg

Caius is currently working on a map, and we hope to get some working versions of it soon. But if anyone knows of a map very similar to the one above, by all means let us know (not the vanilla Alexander map :clown:).

Ok, scratch the previous post. The map is now being made by Spurius.

and here we go...
its only the base working version so there arent any rivers or regions and it needs to be a bit bigger
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big thanks to Spurius

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link went dead above, sorry
spurius has enlarged the map since this screenie, it now takes 7 seconds to scroll from greece to india :2thumbsup:

also we're adding the small kingdom of Gerrha so there is someone poking at persia from the south

If the mod is centered around the struggle of the Greeks against the Persians, isn't the map a bit out of focus here?

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Originally Posted by Aradan

If the mod is centered around the struggle of the Greeks against the Persians, isn't the map a bit out of focus here?

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I'd say its just about what he wanted ...;
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...7&postcount=11

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ps; just as a suggestion but try to get the hang of EarthSculptor, it will allow you to add much more reliëf to your map with relative ease ..
(Small EarthSculptor guide)


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Yeah, the in-game map is exactly what they need if their "concept" map is what it is now, but I think that a mod dealing with the "Medika" (Greek-Persian conflict) shouldn't bother with India and much of what the map includes. Most of the factions are located in a small, confined area, while 90% of the map is a single faction and two-three more that are not important for the theme of the game. No disrespect to the guys making it, just some observations, which can be easily ignored.

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Originally Posted by Aradan

Yeah, the in-game map is exactly what they need if their "concept" map is what it is now, but I think that a mod dealing with the "Medika" (Greek-Persian conflict) shouldn't bother with India and much of what the map includes. Most of the factions are located in a small, confined area, while 90% of the map is a single faction and two-three more that are not important for the theme of the game. No disrespect to the guys making it, just some observations, which can be easily ignored.

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I appreciate the concern, and if we were making a serious historically meticulous creation then we would worry about where the focus of the map is. I think some people would want to play India and sweep over Persia from the east. :2thumbsup: Oh and btw, the in-game map covered about the same area, but if you compare their size of Greece (could only comfortably hold 1 city on the peloponnese) to our size (can theoretically hold 10-15 cities), then the vanilla just doesn't cut it. :beam: So in conclusion it should be fun for most people- your choice of playing the grand Persian Empire that dominates the world, a small but potential powerhouse greek city-state, the dormant power of the Dahae, or one of the outer factions just minding their own business. Woops, I didn't mean to rant so long. :skull:

As a hugely disappointed fan of Alexander.exe,I personally think that the map is excellent. Just because the theme of the mod is centered on the Greco-Persian Wars,it doesn't mean that it should be restricted to a tiny map with a few provinces. I like the idea of having 10-15 provinces on the Peloponnesus alone. Gives a general options (should I sack and burn Athens or Sparta or Tegea,or...?) and a reason to play as a faction other than the Greeks.

This one's definitely on my watch list,Comrade. :yes:

Thanks very much! :beam:

This looks interesting.

I have a question though: with the Persian Empire having sucha huge territory, how do you intend to balance out their inherently overwhelming military capacity? Especially as the AI is not particularly aggresive, playing as the Persians wouldn't be much of a challenge at all, as it would be only a matter of time before the full weight of Persia asserts itself.

EDIT: I've thought of another thing: what about the distance-to-capital penalty? With such a humongous piece of territory, wouldn't provinces start rioting left, right and center? I realise that that might be part of the intended challenge, but I doubt that many players would be thrilled with fighting rebels all the time.

First of all, thanks :2thumbsup:

Second of all, thanks again :beam: These are things we haven't much thought about yet since we don't have a map to fool around with, so we've been mostly making units, visuals, and other stuff. So thanks for bringing these topics to mind.

Sure the Persians will most likely have an overwhelming army, but that will make it more fun to try and stop them, or invade them. Also, playing as Persia might not be so easy, since you will probably end up fighting a war from 4 fronts :yes:

Haven't thought about the distance to capital penalty at all yet, so I got nothing there :laugh4:

money may be a severe challenge with Persia, and your units don't match up well against the Greeks. Its going to be tougher than it looks.

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Originally Posted by Hound of Ulster

money may be a severe challenge with Persia, and your units don't match up well against the Greeks. Its going to be tougher than it looks.

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Exactly, those large armies would be costly. So you might have to create one for a specific purpose then disband it to avoid paying upkeep.

What release date is the RTWPI team shooting for?

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Originally Posted by Hound of Ulster

money may be a severe challenge with Persia, and your units don't match up well against the Greeks. Its going to be tougher than it looks.

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There's probably a way to make them work like the ERE in BI which should by rights win in a few turns but never does. Or do a campaign scri[t to make them hard to play as

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Originally Posted by Hound of Ulster

What release date is the RTWPI team shooting for?

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That's always the question :laugh4:
We're still waiting for Spurius to get the map ready for regions to be added. Factions, units, UI's, and other graphics are pretty much done. There's no telling how long it will take to add the regions, install the factions to their places, set up recruitment, mercenaries, balancing, ... oh god! :furious3: So I have no idea :2thumbsup:

edit: Oh yes, we added some Celts to chill out above Illyria.

just take it slowly and always be on the look out for bugs.

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Originally Posted by comrade_general

not the vanilla Alexander map :clown:.

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Yes,please stay away from vanilla Alexander's map. Like I said in a previous post,it was a horrible disappointment.

Sorry,that's all the advice I can think of at the moment.

With every thing else pretty close to completion, work has begun on the map...

Also, check out the Moddb Profile which shows the latest developments.