I should also mention that I was roleblocked the first night but recieved results anyway because beefy had alread sent them to me.
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I should also mention that I was roleblocked the first night but recieved results anyway because beefy had alread sent them to me.
Just a quick reminder, all info and role should be revealed on public. So no pming and stuff please
OOC: Sorry Beefy. I didn't "reveal" so to say. :embarassed:
IC:
Sure I'll reveal, it's only going to help the town.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki
So far my I have only done investigations since I was either going to go for the Town or Mafia Victory because I didn't think I had much chance of winning through SK Victory. So far I haven't found any Mafia to join or bully.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefy
My results so far:
Not Mafia:
Andres
Sasaki Kojiro
Pevergreen
Kamikhaan
Prole
TevashSzat
Craterus
Fenring
:book2:
IMHO, so far I have a bad gut feeling about scottishranger. He just doesn't seem, honest.
Sorry for the inactivity, had a busy weekend and some other real life stuff going on.Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Investigate me next, Sasaki!
Interesting.
This was my discussion with Rythmic early in the game:
He didn't reply to that last. This was around when I voted for him. However, there was only one kill at night so I figured if he was the serial killer he was searching for the mafia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
My pm's with beefy only muddled things:
I'm still not sure what he meant when he said SK investigations only gets their type. Anyway, I wasn't sure enough to attack and he didn't seem to be doing any damage so there was no use revealing myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefy187
We must assume this is accurate and that Rythmic edited his pm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beefy187
Vote:Rythmic
:dizzy2:
I'm inclined to believe Sasaki. Looking at the first few posts from Beefy, it does say that the SK, has a SK or mafia victory, no mention of a town option.
I don't see a SK aiding the town, but then why reveal themselves as the SK? :dizzy2:
For the moment, Vote: Scottishranger but, I'd recommend keeping an eye on Rythmic for a while yet.
I'm not forcing anyone to believe me I'm just presenting the facts. Yes, it is true that I am the Serial Killer, but I can go pro-Town or pro-Mafia. And in the long run it doesn't matter I guess. :shrug:
But, I really do have a bad gut feeling about Scottishranger so I'm going to:
Vote: Scottishranger
Hey Rythmic you missed one, I'm not on that list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rythmic
Lets also keep an eye on inactive people who arent getting wogged. For now vote scottishranger
Seriously guys? Serial killer vs guy who is about to be WoG'd?
Ghost vote : Rythmic
Rythmic is a potential serial killer. Lynch him. His story doesn't fit with Sasaki's story and I have reasons to believe Sasaki is innocent.
The inactives are to be taken out later in the game, when there have been a few WoG's.
I agree vote:rythmic
Vote Rythmic
See reasons above. :sweatdrop:
Ok, lets get this day moving.
unvote. vote Rythmic
vote: rythmic
So Sasaki, if Rythmic is what he says he is then you are not mafia, Rythmic is just lying and you two are buddies or Rythmic is true and you are in fact mafia and trying to lynch a valuble pro-town.
Now according to Rythmic;
Then you said;Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki
This does sound rather scummy, though you could also be pro-town (a vigilante of sorts).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki
So it is quite a mix of Rythmic and Sasaki, yet why is everyone blindly agreeing with Sasaki when the evidence is right there.
I am siding with Rythmic on this one, but one thing I don't get, if you say he is about to get WOG'ed, is why Rythmic 'revealed' everything about Sasaki but then voted Scottishranger. If you are so sure Rythmic, why turn the attention? Care to explain.
Even if Rythmic does get lynched, which he is about to, it is the result of a huge bandwagon. Yes, Sasaki did have some good evidence on him, but everyone else just turned into sheep.
On the subject of bandwagoning, another I find interesting is Andres. What do you believe about Sasaki being innocent when Rythmic , who claims to be a detective, has said you to be innocent. Now I don't see how that makes him a serial killer.
I have my doubts, but I am going to rebel and Vote:Sasaki.
Well Sasaki does like pro mafia roles from previous game experience and I do recall Rythmic embellishing his role in other games.
Out of the 2 I will keep my vote on Rythmic for now.
Hi Sarathos, Rythmic claims he is the serial killer. The part we don't believe is that he is protown, because of the text in beefy's first post. We have to make this assumption. Rythmic doesn't claim to be a detective. How can you believe him innocent but think he is lying about his results?
Why did you say this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarathos
hmmm, it looks like we finally have something interesting to go on.
I have to agree with Sarathos, if only partialy, that Sasaki does seem to be quite suspicious. Without re-itterating what has already been said I'd like to add:
The rules say that the mafia can investigate 2 people each night. And I think its safe to assume the game started with more than one mafiosa. Using this ability one mafiosa could be bullying people while at the same time the other was investigating them.
If Sasaki was indeed a mafiosa doing this it would prove to his advantage if he came out as a detective and managed to trick everyone into not only believing he is innocent, but believing those he says are guilty are guilty, and those he says are innocent are innocent.
There are a few pieces of evidence which coincide with this fact:
1. If he was a mafiosa he could investigate 2 people each night, if he were putting his buddy/s on the list that could equal the amount of people he has said ARE innocent. Also, we've had some nights with no kills, perhaps he got his buddies to do some extra investigating for him in order to make his story more believable (ie. to have 1-3 investigations instead of just 2).
2. His role PM conveniently says he will turn up guilty if investigated, this seems pretty convenient as it means there is no way we can test if he really is lying (assuming there is someone else who can investigate).
3. He's supposedly investigated 10 people, and none of them were guilty? This seems pretty suspicious to me, I mean what was his point in revealing if he hadn't found any mafia yet if it was only to show that these people weren't guilty.
Now, I don't mean to outright condemn Sasaki, but I do believe we should be more cautious about jumping to do everything he tells us to.
As for Rythmic, he seems to me like he wants to help the town and go for a town victory (otherwise I can't imagine why he'd reveal), but as an SK it might be too great a risk to take to let him live. But I'd like to hear more from him before jumping to a lynch.
For now I Vote: Abstain.
Does that post make up for my inactivity lol? (note: just doing my last assignment for a while now, so should have more time to be active.)
if I was mafia, I would know who was innocent so I don't see what you are driving at.Quote:
1. If he was a mafiosa he could investigate 2 people each night, if he were putting his buddy/s on the list that could equal the amount of people he has said ARE innocent. Also, we've had some nights with no kills, perhaps he got his buddies to do some extra investigating for him in order to make his story more believable (ie. to have 1-3 kills instead of just 2).
Read beefy's first post again...Quote:
2. His role PM conveniently says he will turn up guilty if investigated, this seems pretty convenient as it means there is no way we can test if he really is lying (assuming there is someone else who can investigate).
There's no harm in me revealing, it should really help narrow down who to go after. I wanted to get rhythmics story straight as well. As for finding mafia, there's always tonight and the next night and then next night. You seem to have come back to the game just in time to avoid WoG, nicely done.Quote:
3. He's supposedly investigated 10 people, and none of them were guilty? This seems pretty suspicious to me, I mean what was his point in revealing if he hadn't found any mafia yet if it was only to show that these people weren't guilty.
He has a point. Unless, as someone mentioned earlier, he's trying to get us to knock out particular people. Personally I believe Sasaki.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki
On the other hand, Rythmic should be given a chance to prove he's pro-town, if he wasn't telling the truth, then why reveal as the SK?
Ok, investigation results, possibly guilty...Not guilty...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki
Innocent...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rythmic
The only variances are Prole and TevashSzat. Otherwise the lists fit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki
I'm going to continue to Vote: ScottishRanger
I never said I believed him, but what if he is not lying? Plus I don't see why you are a 100% innocent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki
Did you see the title of the list it was directed at?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki
I don't see the sense in voting Rythmic.
As a revealed serial killer, he's hardly a threat. He's pretty much sided with the town now and, if need be, we can lynch him later. But as it stands, he's basically a detective for us and there's no sense in killing him off.
I also believe Sasaki's role PM.
I think we need a WoG list from Beefy and then we can lynch one of the people who's just shown up to save their skin? (Zorg, pevergreen)
I believe Rythmic and SK stories, so I will Vote:Abstain
FoS all those who vote good townies.
He could investigate mafia tonight, join them, and tell us they are innocent. Also, if he is lying about being able to join the town, we won't win the game until he is lynched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craterus
For the record, I have been here all along reading and taking note but I as I said before I've been busy. And yes, I did come back to save my own skin but I don't see how that ensures I am scum, I came back because I want to continue to be a part of this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craterus
Also, Sasaki I believe I made an error in my logic as you pointed out in my first point, although it is possible (if more unlikely) that in such a case you could have been investigating to see who would be investigated as guilty.
I still think I'll take your words cautiously (as I think we should take anyones words), but I'm getting the impression that you aren't guilty.
Ghost Vote: Sarathos
His whole 'analytical' post screams scummy at me. He's never been one to do in depth analysis. Plus, he fences severely with Rythmic, seeming to kinda want to make it seem like he's not trying to save the SK, but hiding it very poorly.
:yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by makaikhaan
I'm curious about sarathos and zorg at the moment, probably with shlin as a third.
In other words you suspect everyone who suspects you >_>. In any case, if we were mafia it would be stupid to show such open support of each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Since Rythmic has failed to respond as to whether he is innocent or not I'm going to:
Unvote: Abstain , Vote: Rythmic
It is never too late to start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Makaikhaan
I am not trying to save the SK, I just don't see why everyone bandwagoned Rythmic because Sasaki said so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Makaikhaan