Ok may be this will work.....
http://img35.exs.cx/img35/766/picture63.jpg
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Ok may be this will work.....
http://img35.exs.cx/img35/766/picture63.jpg
~:eek: Almost perfect!!!! :smile: Just one detail missing. The helms were a bit more pointy and slightly taller (oval). Apart from that it's just perfect!!! :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
I think they look great m8! Great work!
PROMETHEUS, very, very good work!
But can you give me your new cas'es and textures for triarii and late praetorians? I don't want to be a boring complaining person again, I'll try to fix all your "bugs" myself. OK?
And I don't agree with new shield for early Roman units (damn, I start complaining again!). On the picture, that you posted depicted modern free variation on Roman theme. In historical reconstructions shields do not have that wings, afaik. And shields must be more oval (look at the pics you posted yourself).
No, I meant soldier's shoulders - I circled this place on my picture.Quote:
Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
But centurion - too. As Aymar said before, centurion shouldn't have that straps.
PROMETHEUS, very, very good work!
But can you give me your new cas'es and textures for triarii and late praetorians? I don't want to be a boring complaining person again, I'll try to fix all your "bugs" myself. OK?
WHAT ARE THOSE BUGS?
And I don't agree with new shield for early Roman units (damn, I start complaining again!). On the picture, that you posted depicted modern free variation on Roman theme. In historical reconstructions shields do not have that wings, afaik.
THERE IS NO REFERENCE TO ANY pattern for early roman republican legion but for this one all the others are more fantastical , tough i see the one I used more used by legions at Caesar's time , but then again , find me a good pattern and I will add it otherwise better this than anything , since if we don't add at least a ymbol or a pattern top the shields the armies will look too plain and confusing...
And shields must be more oval (look at the pics you posted yourself).
I THINK that the shield is ok making more oval is just a taste thing , better focus on making more units or the project will just make like the Zenones's never ending motus.....
Sorry, PROMETEUS, but just like The Wizard said, I'm unable to see these pictures. :confused: Is it your webprovider or my firewall?Quote:
Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
Some very nice looking units there. :2thumbsup:
Perhaps some more faction design variation on the Roman shields? I was also wondering about inverting the vertical UVs on one half of the shield to suggest asymmetry without using a bigger texure.
I've already talked to him through PM and I will rework the shoulders in MAX.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dead Moroz
Spartans as I have found arouns should look like....
http://img22.exs.cx/img22/5373/frfrfeafefsdatgtr.jpg
http://img22.exs.cx/img22/2570/frfrfeafefsdatgtr1.jpg
this is a better representation of the Samnite Gladiator , I still have to work on some details on the helmet and skins tough.....
http://img22.exs.cx/img22/4648/gladiatoEmiSecutor.jpg
http://img22.exs.cx/img22/1469/gladiatosamnite.jpg
PROMETHEUS: We're not using gladiators. We're not using any gladiators.
Why not ? they have been used , even a full army of gladiators....
U remember Spartacus?
Historical pics from the period in question, please. We need to be sure that they were exactly like that at that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
BTW, how did you make the Lacadaemon symbol without using mirrors? How did you edited the shield's UVW map to achieve that? :confused:
Yes we are, yes we are...Quote:
Originally Posted by Urnamma
In slave rebellions in Italy they will appear. Therefore is Gladiator work is necessary and correct.
BTW, how did you make the Lacadaemon symbol without using mirrors? How did you edited the shield's UVW map to achieve that?
haven't you noticed that also the gladiator is totally asymmetrical ? lookthe sleeves and the legs....
I used unwrap UVW mapping...
http://img23.exs.cx/img23/5373/frfrfeafefsdatgtr.jpg
Great work PROMETHEUS ! Hope you aren't enlarging the textures to make them asymmetrical (we've been warned by Jerome that evil things will happen if we do :uneasy: )
Keep it up, I've been a bit delinquent with my work. Hope Psycho doesn't kill me :tongue:
BY other modding experiences I know is better tokeep the 256 x 256 or this similar proportion in textures , tough I have tried to utilize double files to load textures but soon discaded this approach , instead I redraw the disposition of the stuff inside each texture and enlarged or reduced some of them to gain space , this way I got the possibility to display more textures in a single one.....Quote:
Hope you aren't enlarging the textures to make them asymmetrical
They fought like Roman legionaries as soon as they got the equipment... Hopefully we're only using one unit of them...Quote:
Yes we are, yes we are...
They fought like Legionarres when the Romans employed them. Aymar mentioned them as rebels though, and in a rebellion, they would use what equipment would be at hand, which would be gladiatorial weapons and armor.
Yes, I did. But the Spartans shield seems to have it's texture stretched. Therefore my question about the method. I've been unable to make something similar...Quote:
Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
HE!HE!HE! :grin2: Watch out!!! After all his name is pretty explainatory... :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vercingetorix
Nope. All three. But as I've said, they will not appear except in rebellions. And it's up to the player not to let them get legionaire equipment... :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Urnamma
BTW... ...isn't this somewhat different?Quote:
Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
http://img18.exs.cx/img18/2887/Spart...1092854648.jpg
See? No greaves, no white linen cuirass...
Although I know this relates to 400BC, I would like for you to show us a depiction of about 270BC for comparation.
btw I would like to see also other units made by other people where are them??? Even becouse I don't want to step in someon'else's work....
Aymar, those aren't Spartan hoplites. Those are Laconian (Spartan Allied) hoplites. They're where Iphikrates and others got the idea for the unarmored 'fast' hoplites that were supposed to deal with peltasts. The Spartans themselves would have been armored. They should have linen cuirass, or possibly the bronze body armor. After all, Sparta was the most conservative of the Greek states.
But warfare styles evolve. Spartans used a lot less armour in latter times. Up to the point of wearing no armour at all. I've read it in several references.Quote:
Originally Posted by Urnamma
BTW, why do you say they are Spartan allies and not Spartans themselves? Is that what the text means with "Lakedaemonian" hoplites?
I've been unable to continue my work on Iberian and Carthaginian units, but I hope to finish reskinning and remodelling 4 units, by wednesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS
No I meant that I really want to know what is beeing making and what we are made so far that is why I posted the last time a thread about a full complete list of worked units, in work units and to work units......
Nice work Prom
Nice Prometheus ,great job