Graffiti Mafia [Concluded]

...why'd you just change your nickname?

:inquisitive:

I voted for Csar last time because he went after Husar on pretty flimsy evidence. I've yet to see anything to contradict that judgement.

Vote: Csar

I also agree with Aggony Duck. We should ignore the messages altogether until we can figure out which ones are mafia product and which ones are from the masons (an outstanding question for the soothsayer to ask, if he's paying attention out there...)

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Originally Posted by Peasant Phill

Hhmm still a very confusing game. Luckely ther's a lot of discussion going on, but non that was very helpful. Some people seem to know some things and don't eventry to hide it.
Take Csar for example he repeatidly gives cryptic remarks at such a frequency that he's almost asking to be lynched. He will probably be lynched this day and he has made no action to save his skin. very strange behavior for any role. The only thing I can come up with is that he has the role of village idiot.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mafia_Game#Optional_roles

But without other suspects:
Vote Csar

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There is a simple answer to what you conclude. I have no role neither am I a village idiot. I wouldn't doubt that I will be lynched. Cryptic remarks? Nah Everything I've said has been the truth.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

...why'd you just change your nickname?

:inquisitive:

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My old one was getting old I figured it was time for a change.

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Originally Posted by DC

I voted for Csar last time because he went after Husar on pretty flimsy evidence. I've yet to see anything to contradict that judgement.

Vote: Csar

I also agree with Aggony Duck. We should ignore the messages altogether until we can figure out which ones are mafia product and which ones are from the masons (an outstanding question for the soothsayer to ask, if he's paying attention out there...)

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You've come after me with pretty flimsy evidence too. Disco wouldn't pick me as a mafioso anyways.

After reviewing the evidence i think that Csar is actually inocent. Would a mafia honestly bring such attension to himself? I think not. If Csar's a Mafia i will eat my hat.

I know this wont do much but its a start...

Unvote: Csar
Vote: Abstain

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

My old one was getting old I figured it was time for a change.

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Unvote:Csar
Vote:Ichigo

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Originally Posted by UltraWar

Unvote:Csar
Vote:Ichigo

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Your the worst out of the bunch that have voted for me. Atleast they come up with decent reasons, but you nothing of the sort.:mean:

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

Your the worst out of the bunch that have voted for me. Atleast they come up with decent reasons, but you nothing of the sort.:mean:

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I'll give you a reason, a name change seems very suspicious indeed.

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Originally Posted by UltraWar

I'll give you a reason, a name change seems very suspicious indeed.

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Hardly worth a vote.

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

You've come after me with pretty flimsy evidence too. Disco wouldn't pick me as a mafioso anyways.

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Yes, in prior games when I was actually in the mafia, looking for a patsy. :inquisitive:

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Originally Posted by Don Corleone

Yes, in prior games when I was actually in the mafia, looking for a patsy. :inquisitive:

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I'm still wondering why you bandwagoned me. Your vote did seem a little on the desperate side.

I think we should just cut the crap and go after a real Mafioso. The curse of the third on the wagon has become a reality.

GH that is you!!! Why are you not in the chat with the rest of your buddies?
Hard to lie to our faces is that it?

unvote csar
vote abstain

too much intormation flying around ill need to read this all before i vote the new csar or someone else

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Originally Posted by Sigurd Fafnesbane

I think we should just cut the crap and go after a real Mafioso. The curse of the third on the wagon has become a reality.

GH that is you!!! Why are you not in the chat with the rest of your buddies?
Hard to lie to our faces is that it?

Vote: GH

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:rolleyes:

Yup. So according to your rule, Masy is also guilty, as he was the third to vote for Reenk last round.

Also, Sasaki's going to double-kill you for voting again. :laugh4:

I have to again reiterate the fact the if Csar was a mafia why is he drawing so much attension to himself, we should be looking to the players who do not post reguarly. The mafia will be keeping under the radar. If so was a mafia hes obvously not a very good one and being a vet i doubt that.

So, since I have revised my opinion of Csar and despite his voting for me, I am inclined to go with him on Kommodus. I mentioned my suspicions of Kommodus earlier, he'd be an excellent choice by disco and could lead the town astray later by claiming his method came up with this or that. Even if he is innocent, he can still apply his method later. If we find out about his innocence, we can then trust him completely or if the mafia restrain themselves to one kill to leave us in the dark, we gain a lot of time. The town gains something by lynching him now, whether he is mafia or not.
Think about it.

Vote: Kommodus

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Originally Posted by Ichigo

I know how you play and I know how Disco plays. I picked you because of your success in other mafia games in GF2. I think it is very likely that Disco did the same.

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So you voted for me because, naturally, discovery1 would pick me because... er... I tend to get lynched - quickly - in nearly every game? Even when I'm innocent? :dizzy2:

I could've put what would've amounted to a lynch vote on you last round; instead I defended you because I couldn't imagine a mafioso being so blatant as to jump on his team's own false lead. Now you pull even more baffling stunts. Nice timing on the name change, BTW - possibly an attempt to dodge my numerical method by preventing me from tracking your behavior changes? The only other time I can remember you acting this suspicious was in GFII, when for the record, you were the Godfather.

Thanks to your little trick, I've got to re-run a bunch of statistics-gathering stuff (grr). Later this evening I'll try another analysis, but until then:

Vote: Ichigo

EDIT: Hey Husar, trying to give the 'old Kommodus bandwagon some steam? As you so eloquently point out, K would make a great choice for discovery1! He's guilty in every game, or at least a great lynch candidate! Lynch 'im, I say! ~:rolleyes:

umm this is pure speculation however Kommodus Discovery1 could have picked you to prevent the Kommodus detection agency. Therfore by picking you it therfore saves his mafia teem from a proclaimed "Mafia Hunter"...

Vote: Ichigo

On advice from Sigurd.

Unvote: Csar/Ichigo
Vote: Abstain

-edit- screw it

Unvote: Abstain
Vote: No lynch

I don't like any of the current options and I'm kinda regretting the Sir Moody vote. Maybe it is better if we don't lynch anyone this round, because the current votes are based on rather flimsy evidence.

Unvote: Sir Moody
Vote: No Lynch

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Originally Posted by Kommodus

EDIT: Hey Husar, trying to give the 'old Kommodus bandwagon some steam? As you so eloquently point out, K would make a great choice for discovery1! He's guilty in every game, or at least a great lynch candidate! Lynch 'im, I say! ~:rolleyes:

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You yourself proclaimed that your new method was so good that the mafia could hardly avoid it so he may have chosen you simply to avoid that big thread. I could say you brought it upon yourself. It's not my fault that you are such a good lynch candidate. Should we avoid all good lynch candidates and go for the suspected masons first?

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Originally Posted by Ignoramus

Vote: Ichigo

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Now why are you suddenly appearing after missing two votes and join the flimsy bandwagon on Csar without giving a reason?
Were you ordered by your Godfather?

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Originally Posted by Sir Boo

umm this is pure speculation however Kommodus Discovery1 could have picked you to prevent the Kommodus detection agency. Therfore by picking you it therfore saves his mafia teem from a proclaimed "Mafia Hunter"...

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Heckuva lot easier just to get me lynched, destroying my credibility and my vote simultaneously. He'd know this after I destroyed his team in Mafia IV. People have been suspicious of me since round 1, so I'd say it's working pretty well - wouldn't you?

I'm beginning to think that Csar/Ichigo either is the soothsayer, or at the very least is trying to make us think he is.

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There is a simple answer to what you conclude. I have no role neither am I a village idiot. I wouldn't doubt that I will be lynched. Cryptic remarks? Nah Everything I've said has been the truth.

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Unless I'm mistaken, the soothsayer gets to ask one question and then reverts to a townie (no role) after receiving an answer. Keeping this theme, and reading his posts, it would appear that he asked his question in reference to the graffiti.

One thing that there is little doubt about is that the 'poetic' graffiti clearly points the finger at Husar. So, if it's to be believed, my vote is clear.

vote: Husar

An unanswered question would be why Reenk (who was apparently innocent) seems intent on seeing Csar killed though. If the mime has anything to add, I'm all eyes and I'd like to hear more from Csar as well. :yes:

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Originally Posted by AggonyDuck

I don't like any of the current options and I'm kinda regretting the Sir Moody vote. Maybe it is better if we don't lynch anyone this round, because the current votes are based on rather flimsy evidence.

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I can agree with that.

Unvote: Kommodus
Vote: No lynch

Vote Count:

Ichigo 5 (Ultrawar,Peasant Phill,Don,Kommodus,Ignoramus)
No-Lynch 4 (ituralde,GH,Duck,Husar)
doc_bean 2 (doc_bean,discovery1)
Husar 1(Xiahou)
Kommodus 1 (Ichigo)

Abstain 2(Sir Boo,Sir Moody)

Unvote:Kommodus
Vote:No-Lynch

For now.

Crap, I'm going to stop kidding around because Csar is about to die.

You can't kill him OK? This means you Ultrawar, Peasant Phill, Don Corleone, Kommodus, and Ignoramus...

My "Bolshevik Revolution" thing was a joke, I was never suspicious of Csar (others were at that time).

Fact is, we have good reason to believe that Csar may be helpful to the town, and while I am not fully convinced of it, I see it more than plausible enough to let him live for now.

Another thing that I have to give to Csar is his class last turn. He played it cool, not retaliation voting (which is a perfectly ethical and justifiable thing to do). He's a good man, you gotta give him that.

If he was worried about dying, why wouldn't he retaliate? Sure, it could be some ploy, but that's a weak case.

If you vote Csar, you help commies, kapeesh? :stare:

Csar, vote No Lynch to save yourself.

To the Mafia...

You suck! :tongue3:

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Originally Posted by Kommodus

So you voted for me because, naturally, discovery1 would pick me because... er... I tend to get lynched - quickly - in nearly every game? Even when I'm innocent? :dizzy2:

I could've put what would've amounted to a lynch vote on you last round; instead I defended you because I couldn't imagine a mafioso being so blatant as to jump on his team's own false lead. Now you pull even more baffling stunts. Nice timing on the name change, BTW - possibly an attempt to dodge my numerical method by preventing me from tracking your behavior changes? The only other time I can remember you acting this suspicious was in GFII, when for the record, you were the Godfather.

Thanks to your little trick, I've got to re-run a bunch of statistics-gathering stuff (grr). Later this evening I'll try another analysis, but until then:

Vote: Ichigo

EDIT: Hey Husar, trying to give the 'old Kommodus bandwagon some steam? As you so eloquently point out, K would make a great choice for discovery1! He's guilty in every game, or at least a great lynch candidate! Lynch 'im, I say! ~:rolleyes:

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No I picked you out because your methods would be deadly in any mafia game. The fact if your lynched quickly or not has nothing to do with the fact that if your mafia then you can't use your own methods on your own teammates.

Your loss Kommodus, but that won't stop me anyways. I have no team I've already said that I have no team(and it's quite annoying repeating it). I am a loner on my own. What do you take me for an idiot? Don't be so foolish you can track me all you want, my behaviors, my posts, etc. I have nothing to hide from you.

You know that's interesting because no one had any idea I was GF until the last round. Don't you remember? I kept a low profile the entire game until the end barely posting at all. You can think what you want, but this is completely different.

Don't lie changing a name doesn't change any of the posts nor anything in them. Seems your slipping up Kommodus.

Ichigo