Unless I read wrong I believe you are still alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_Hagen
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Unless I read wrong I believe you are still alive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_Hagen
Challenge: Motep
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Ya startin'
A ghostly voice whispers on the wind, carried from Valhalla: Challenges are only during the night phase. It's Day Phase until 9PM GMT+1. By the way, these Valkyrie chicks are even hotter in person... Think Hooters girls in metal bikinis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orb
Hold your horses there spheric Berserk... The Challenges are only considered if posted between the lynching and the next round...Quote:
Originally Posted by Orb
(edit): Thx for holding the fort Don.
So Kojiro.If you such an innocent can you tell us where you hail from and who is your liege?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Damn it, damn it !
I think my lurking profile is getting me killed in each and every single game, I should participate more. :computer:
Damn you Jotun.
:balloon2:
These were the challenges:
1 Tom Hagen vs. Caius Flaminus
2 Kagemusha vs. Seamus
3 Ichigo vs. CountArach
5 Crazed Rabbit vs. GH
6 Lord Motep vs. Orb
The fight between Redleg and HughTower seemed pretty fair. It seemed like Redleg was a bit lucky. So my guess is this were two townies fighting each other.
What do we have left:
1 Tom Hagen vs. Caius Flaminus
2 Kagemusha vs. Seamus
3 Ichigo vs. CountArach
4 Crazed Rabbit vs. GH
5 Lord Motep vs. Orb
Tom Hagen is still alive. Apparently, the attempt failed. He claimed a Jotun attacked him, but can we believe that?
Anyway, he was the one who started all the challenges.
Well, Tom_Hagen, as long as you don't convince me of being pro town:
Vote : Tom_Hagen
EDIT: Tom, you are still on the "alive" list
Damn... so that was just a good dream! Okay, then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_Hagen
Yes, Sasaki PM'd me the first day, claiming he never received a clan affiliation. Translation, he didn't receive a real viking PM, he received a Jotun one. Originally, I chalked it up to him trying to catch me in a trap, but now, with him going on about how high the Jotun Holmgang stats are....
Vote: Sasaki
Thanks for the heads up. But see my miscues in Godfather 2. The Jotun (or Mafia) cannot attack each other, even to fake it, or if they suspect strongly that their target will be protected by a shaman (or doctor).Quote:
Originally Posted by AndresTheCunning
I'm an unassailable witness, there's no way I could be Jotun.
Now, I don't know for certain Sasaki is, but in light of any other info to go on, I'm very interested in why he thought townie PM's didn't have clan affiliations.
Evidence please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Hagen
Perhaps, but why ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki
We definitely have somewhat of a lucky detective esque Norseman.
:balloon2:
Sigurd, I have a question about the rules: can Jotun attack Jotun in this game?
Shouldnt you be asking evidence from Sasaki.All he needs to do is to clarify the points Tom Hagen made. Sasaki who do you serve? Or is it just the queen of underworld?Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Actually, townies are the ones who don't receive any affiliations. Only the more special roles do, which is why you guys should really stop mentioning it. The mafia obviously picked up on it and tried to kill Don.
townie as in vanilla townie.
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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Now Sasaki did respond the exact same way earlier, that I was tipping off the Jotun that I had a special role, but I don't. I'm not a king and I'm not a Jarl. I'm a warrior, and goodness knows how many of them there are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Maybe poor Sasaki is a thrall. Or maybe, he serves Hel herself. Speak man, or lose your tongue forever!
Waitaminute, the top of my town PM said "Human" in bold. Does that mean that's not an affiliation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
:inquisitive:
Vote Sasaki the Jotun.Unless someone can prove him right.
It's not a clan affiliation which is what tom is talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
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Originally Posted by Tom_Hagen
:computer:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki
A warrior is special. You have the capability to serve the town via the holmgang. This makes you more of a target since the jotun worry about getting challenged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_Hagen
Well, there's 3 Jotun in the game. If we can get 2 more people to confirm GH and Sasaki's story, we may be onto something here.
Which brings us to the other charge against you, which you've chosen not to answer.... I thought you said the Jotun could beat anyone in Holmgang. If that was the case, why wouldn't they just challenge everyone to Holmgang every time and forget about murdering (and possibly being caught by a detective)? And, more importantly, how do you know that Jotun have such killer stats in Holmgang? :inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
And Sasaki, why have you been fishing clan names via pm? I think we have cought our first Jotun.
I answered it several times. It's clear from the game rules that the Holmgang is never certain. The detective would catch them regardless of whether they were killing, and there is no detective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_Hagen
:inquisitive:Quote:
Norse mythology, is a giant, one of a mythological race with superhuman strength, described as standing in opposition to the gods,
*sigh* clan names are meaningless in this game. I thought Don's claim to have one meant he was possible Jotun in the exact same way you thought I was jotun for not having one. Why do you persist in this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Becouse you cant tell us yours,since you dont have one,becouse you are a Jotun.Im still waiting for others to tell they dont have one.:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
He doesn't know. But it would be logical, wouldn't it? Otherwise it would be to easy for the town.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom_Hagen
On the other hand, giving the Jotun über power in Holmgang would make it too easy for them. Maybe they have average statistics, to avoid being killed by the first townie who challenges them.
So you pretend to be a mighty warrior heh? Well, I do want to believe you, but on the other hand, it wouldn't be a smart move to reveal yourself in the beginning of the game. And I'm not willing to believe that an experienced mafia player would do something stupid in the beginning of the game.
My vote still stands and I keep watching you. Convince me a bit more, please.
If the Jotun always win at Holmgang, because even when in human form they're as strong as the Gods, we can't hope to win.
I interpret the rules that while they're taking human form, they're of human strength and have human qualities.
I think the answer is for us all to come forward with our clan affiliation, at the very least. Sure, the Jotun will fake a clan alliance, but we need more information then we currently have. Maybe if we see a trend with one clan getting killed off more than another, we can follow a road to our other two Jotun (as I suspect we've already caught our first).
As were my two murdered kinsmen on the first night (and hence the hint about role-playing, I was trying avenge them), I am Hordland. I despise the villianous Rogoland, but I will hold my nose and stand amongst their foul ranks to root out these sons-of-swine Jotun.
Who will stand with me !?!
Well, we're going down one of two paths here.
Either we've caught Sasaki in a lie and he's trying to wiggle his way out of it, or Sasaki's just being himself and this is just a big townie vs. townie thing.
I'm inclined to believe #2, personally. Sasaki is an information hound no matter what, and a Jotun probably would be afraid of being challenged, in case Sigurd's write-up of the Holmgang confirms their superhuman strength.
Vote: Crazed Rabbit
I'm still not sure why you voted for me in the first place.
I am Human. I don't think that's a clan name in the sense Tom meant it. I don't have any other "clan name".Quote:
Originally Posted by Kagemusha
Maybe there are warriors next to regular townies? Maybe every King has his Champion or Warrior to serve him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Game Rules