King of the Romans Out of Character thread XIII

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Originally Posted by Xdeathfire

Hmm.....

I guess its time to formally announce it, but I will be withdrawing from Kotr. Freiderich Scherer will be killed I believe in a big battle I hope and then I am done with Kotr since I am wayyyyyyy too busy to spend much time doing anything than various school stuff. Should Kotr lasts until sometime around Frebruary next year, I may rejoin Kotr.

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Good luck in school! Even if KOTR isn't going, another game will be, so check back in when you've got time. Scherer will live on as long as KOTR does, since half of France is coated with his battle markers.

Fought and won:
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1306-3.rar

Going to send you HA orders Econ

And damned, Ansehelm is loyal ... but he is also dreadfull. I like playing someone who's damned loyal, but preferably only to himself.

I forgot one battle:

Fredericus Erlach (Stuperman):

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A band of brigands west of Milan have butchered poor Arnold Scherer and his escort as they slept at night. Duke Lothar has given you command of Household Army Gerhard. You must avenge the young Swabian.

What d'ya mean "Arnold who?"?!? I am sure his mother mourns him. Now go get 'em.

Next battling general, please use this save (where, alas, poor Arnold Scherer is no more):

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1306-4.zip

Eh, what exactly did you do to him?

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Originally Posted by FactionHeir

Eh, what exactly did you do to him?

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He had an accident.

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He was so bland - with no interesting traits or good stats - I figured your adoption of a second spare Swabian avatar made him surplus to requirements. Perhaps his removal will open up a marriage, a child or a more interesting avatar.

Unless they are too outstanding, I am inclined not to accept any more Swabian avatars for the moment. At least no more adoptions for Hans. Ideally, I'd like each House to have at least one spare. Does that sound reasonable?

Speaking of Swabians, has anyone seen Warluster around? He has a Household Army but I think he's been AWOL since before the Diet. I'm thinking about moving him into the inactive player list. But with Dietrich in exile, we don't have a replacement general.

Incidentally, I could move character the Papal fleet from the Sea of Gallilee, but not the Egyptian one. He had a three part name (Admiral al Aziz or some such) and the game did not recognise any permutation I tried.

If he has a triple name as you posted, you'd type it as such: move_character "Admiral al_Aziz"

I'm in a battle in my SP campaign atm so can't check his exact name. If you post it I can post the exact code.

Don't know about Warluster, but when was his last activity?

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Originally Posted by FactionHeir

If he has a triple name as you posted, you'd type it as such: move_character "Admiral al_Aziz"

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Got it, thanks. His name was Admiral al Az'iz, so "Admiral al_Az_iz" works. :bow:

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Don't know about Warluster, but when was his last activity?

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Two days ago, surprisingly. I PMd him yesterday, so hopefully he will drop by when he next logs in.

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Originally Posted by FactionHeir

As for Ituralde's story. Looks like half the empire is going to turn purple and Siegfried will be leaving Constantinople faster than Peter can catch up eh?

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I'm especially curious about this little part of the story:

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King Jan would hate him for this.

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I have a baaaaad feeling about this. If you guys have noticed, there is not a whole lot that would get the King to hate the Kaiser.

:inquisitive:

And I have the save :yes:

Hmm you might lose a few Outremer counties too I guess, goes hand in hand with the going purple movement :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by FactionHeir

Hmm you might lose a few Outremer counties too I guess, goes hand in hand with the going purple movement :laugh4:

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Seeing as all six Outremer counties are enshrined in the Charter of Outremer, that would be illegal. :yes:

Well, at least we can rest assured that the weekend won't be boring. :beam:

here is the savegame and I'll pm Econ with the results:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1306-5.zip

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Originally Posted by Privateerkev

Seeing as all six Outremer counties are enshrined in the Charter of Outremer, that would be illegal. :yes:

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Only says that those make up Outremer, doesn't say they may not be given away. Besides, a few of those are Imperial territory :wink2:
Be afraid, be very afraid.

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Originally Posted by FactionHeir

Only says that those make up Outremer, doesn't say they may not be given away. Besides, a few of those are Imperial territory :wink2:
Be afraid, be very afraid.

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Imperial territories that are not enshrined in a legally binding charter can be given away. Ducal territories and territories enshrined in a charter can not be given away... legally. So, for Edessa and Antioch to be given away legally, the Charter of Outremer needs to be amended first. Now they can certainly be given away illegally. Like I said, it should be a fun weekend. Especially if Ituralde comes back. :yes:

On second thought, the Kaiser could try to "interpret" the charter in a certain way. We'll see how that goes. ^_^

So which part of the charter says that territories that were added to the HRE via CA cannot be given away legally? :grin:

Well, the Charter says that Outremer is made up of 6 territories. So, I believe that you can not legally do anything to give those 6 up once we have them. Now, the Kaiser can try to "interpret" that differently. The 4 Ducal territories in Outremer would be even harder for him to give away legally since the Charter protects Ducal territory. Basically it says that once a territory is part of a house, it can't be taken away.

So, only Edessa and Antioch are at risk but I believe I can make an argument for why they can not legally be given away. Now, if the Kaiser wants to give away territories illegally, then I suspect we will have a very exciting and fun weekend.

Looking forward to it. :yes:

It only says that Ducal territories cannot be taken back by the emperor (i.e. become Imperial again).
It does not state that the chancellor or emperor cannot gift territories away. I think this also happened before without too much outrage.

As for Outremer, its really no different than the other territories. If its given away, you may eventually be able to retake it and it automatically is part of Outremer / the house.

Well, it will still be fun to sue the Kaiser. :yes:

Please stop trying to take away my litigating fun. :laugh4:

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results for Ansehelms battle:

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https://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d...esult/0164.jpg

I didn't feel like leaving any survivors, damned catapults


BTW, Ansehelm now has that "Feels Appriated" trait on +5, so you all should like him :whip:

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BTW, Ansehelm now has that "Feels Appriated" trait on +5, so you all should like him

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:cheerleader: <-- the Franconian cheering section

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Originally Posted by Stig

BTW, Ansehelm now has that "Feels Appriated" trait on +5, so you all should like him :whip:

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If that were true, Hans would be Emperor right now :saint:

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Originally Posted by Stig

BTW, Ansehelm now has that "Feels Appriated" trait on +5, so you all should like him.

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That trait just means Ansehelm thinks people appreciate him. Just like Jan has "feels respected". That doesn't mean that Ansehelm and Jan are actually appreciated or respected respectively. :beam:

Respected respectively? Say that three times fast. :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by Privateerkev

That trait just means Ansehelm thinks people appreciate him. Just like Jan has "feels respected". That doesn't mean that Ansehelm and Jan are actually appreciated or respected respectively. :beam:

Respected respectively? Say that three times fast. :laugh4:

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Yup, but Ansehelm has the uber trait in that section, Jan only has +2 or so. Ansehelm thinks everyone would want to sleep with him, because he's that good ~D

yeah, im 10 loyalty and +5 appreciated as well. go figure. im loyal to the values of good, righteousness, and genocide!

Judging by the trait descriptions, I'd say 'ConentGeneral' has more to do with how well he feels he's being treated by the ruler. That's why Generals get content by being given easy battles to fight and big cities to govern. Plus, Ansehelm and Siegfried are both high dread.

and peter is more than anyone except arnold

Dietrich's still young. Give him time.

(And a command, too.)

I think Dietrich would love to become Bavarian and defend Marseille :yes:

Is that a subtle nudge? :laugh4:

and i think hans would like to help peter defeat the byzantines and regain his birthright

I can't wait to see Jan's reaction when he finds out he's lost Outremer and is back to serving Ansehelm lol.

Oh and GH Dieter isn't the same rank as Dietrich now, he's the furst of Saxony and Count of Madeburg so stick that in your pipe and smoke it :beam:

Yeah, that was pretty bad timing. :wall:

At least we were equal for about ten minutes. :laugh4: