Out of character thread XIV

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10-12-2007, 11:04
Warluster

Re: Out of character thread XIV

econ, my orders for BfN are sent.

Is this is what was required?
10-12-2007, 11:14
econ21

Re: Out of character thread XIV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warluster

econ, my orders for BfN are sent.

Is this is what was required?

That should be sufficient, thanks.

Ideally, I would like you to upload a jpg of where you would like your units to be at the end of phase 1. i.e. download the zip:
http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/normandy.zip
Take the unit markers in the Word document and paste them onto the jpg of the map, placing them where you envisage them being after the execution of your orders.

It's not essential, but it might help you clarify your orders.

If Ignoramus does not make this afternoon's deadline for orders, I will execute yours and have his react according to his earlier orders/commonsense. The show must go on!
10-12-2007, 11:28
OverKnight

Re: Out of character thread XIV

My own battle report is up as well for 1316
10-12-2007, 13:43
TinCow

Re: Out of character thread XIV

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Battle fought. As OK has probably discovered, a plus side to all of these strange full-stack Byzantine armies is that they're... well... not that good. Chain rout made me feel like I was back in RTW.

True, but you still lost 1/3 of your army. What would happen if you had one of these battles every year with little to no reinforcements? What would happen if you were attacked by two full stacks at once?

MUAHAHAHAHAHA!
http://library.thinkquest.org/3890/EMPEROR3.JPG
10-12-2007, 14:22
AussieGiant

Re: Out of character thread XIV

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinCow

True, but you still lost 1/3 of your army. What would happen if you had one of these battles every year with little to no reinforcements? What would happen if you were attacked by two full stacks at once?

MUAHAHAHAHAHA!
http://library.thinkquest.org/3890/EMPEROR3.JPG

Good God!!

What haev we gotten ourselves into!!?? :beam:
10-12-2007, 15:05
Tamur

Re: Out of character thread XIV

haha! oh dear.... where was that early submersible again? Fritz would like to hide for the next 22 years, please.
10-12-2007, 15:37
FactionHeir

Re: Out of character thread XIV

Well, you would be attacked constantly and smartly if TC were to use the files I sent him :wink:

Thanks for the update econ. Looks like I'll have to hope that Warluster wins or at least gets most of Hümmel's troops downed. Of course I could go and raise a few extra men from the pop, but we'll see.
One small note though, you meant feudal footknights rather than armoured swordmen right? The latter is an English unit (of course Lyneve might be nice)

As for the balanced armies, I guess Byz aren't the ideal faction to have a balanced army as they don't really have any spearmen worth speaking of to counter heavy cav. They do have nasty HAs though.
10-12-2007, 16:21
GeneralHankerchief

Re: Out of character thread XIV

Oh man, thank you so much for posting that Emperor picture. I've been looking for variations of him actually electrocuting someone.
10-12-2007, 19:29
Tamur

Re: Out of character thread XIV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob_the_great

you smell worse than anyone I've ever met, and you'd be surprised by the people you meet in the holy land

lol! that was great, I'm glad we could have at least a couple of smelly soldier quotes
10-12-2007, 19:33
Ferret

Re: Out of character thread XIV

lol I had to have some kind of comeback, but even I'm getting annoyed by this army business now, I need some men to help with the story I've been planning, ah well never mind arguing is fun too.
10-12-2007, 20:30
GeneralHankerchief

Re: Out of character thread XIV

Battle report for Bologna is up.
10-12-2007, 21:05
RoadKill

Re: Out of character thread XIV

Econ, my MTW 2 is still not working. so you still have control over Lorenz Zirn, I dont want to pm it, so could you just get Lorenz to protect the borders to Budapest till the reinforcements arrive, and if they do join armies.
10-12-2007, 21:49
Privateerkev

Re: Out of character thread XIV

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob_the_great

lol I had to have some kind of comeback, but even I'm getting annoyed by this army business now, I need some men to help with the story I've been planning, ah well never mind arguing is fun too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamur

lol! that was great, I'm glad we could have at least a couple of smelly soldier quotes

I assure you, that back in Outremer, Jan is grinning his arse off. :yes:

Of course, that could be because he has been "rodgering" like a coked-out bunny rabbit. :beam:
10-13-2007, 01:15
econ21

Re: Out of character thread XIV

While the Battle for Normandy is still locked in its own little time bubble, I have pressed end turn for 1218. (I can use the console to give the Normandy armies their 1216 moves).

There is at least one, probably two defensive battles.

The one that must be fought first is:

Dietrich von Dassel (GeneralHankerchief):

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Bologna has revolted, expelling the garrison. A full strength Byzantine army is bearing down on the hapless garrison - now out in the open, unprotected by the city walls. You have been called to assist and honour requires that you do. However, the odds are 1:2 against you and in truth, it is surely a fight you cannot win. The Byzantine army is a balanced one and the number of professional warriors in your force is pitiful. You would be best advised to try to get out alive with what men you can.

OOC: You can't retreat pre-battle; I am not sure about within the battle if you fight it manually. An auto-resolve should see you escape and with no slur on your name - it is the garrison that is attacked, not you.

After GH has dealt with his battle, it is likely that Northnovas will be attacked. GH please save when you get to the pre-battle screen for NN's battle.

Karl Zirn (Northnovas):

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

You are in flight from Bucharest, but small force of Hungarian infantry seeks to intercept you. Your force is mainly cavalry - their's mainly spears. You will have to fight smart, but you should be able to triumph.

NN after your battle, there is a chance that the Hungarians will attack the gold chevroned Feudal knights. If they do, save on the pre-battle screen and upload it for me. It they do not, let the end of turn sequence run its course. Please open all the pop-ups and make a note of any significant contents - screenshots may be good. If offered any marriages or new avatars, accept - apart from any more adoptions for Hans. Thanks.

The save for GH:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1318-5.zip
10-13-2007, 03:44
Northnovas

Re: Out of character thread XIV

I will wait for GH to do his turn. This looks like a morning battle EST. I will make sure I am fueled with the caffine before I start.:coffeenews:
10-13-2007, 04:03
GeneralHankerchief

Re: Out of character thread XIV

A'right, let me have a look as soon as I can tear myself away from EB 1.0.
10-13-2007, 04:17
Stuperman

Re: Out of character thread XIV

I didn't know that EB 1 was out....so much for productivity.
10-13-2007, 04:33
GeneralHankerchief

Re: Out of character thread XIV

Autoresolved.

https://i113.photobucket.com/albums/...R/kotr_194.jpg

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1318-6.zip

It's all yours, Northnovas.

Some news for econ:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Not sure if this is part of the news blackout or not, but it's good for the Chancellor's Reports.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

You shouldn't be reading this if you're not a Throne Room mod.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

From what I saw the Byzantines got into some action (read: bloodied) against the Turks north of Antioch, the Danes are periously close to Hamburg, and Thorn is besieged for the 79,483rd time.

-edit- I just DL'd it as a spur-of-the-moment thing; I hadn't touched any of the prior versions. But I knew about all the hype and I saw that 1.0 was released, so I thought I'd give it a shot.

Not disappointed one bit. :yes:
10-13-2007, 10:32
FactionHeir

Re: Out of character thread XIV

You should fight the battle, not autoresolve it. Autoresolve is cheap as it can never get your avatar killed unless you only attack/defend with your avatar :grin:
10-13-2007, 10:36
econ21

Re: Out of character thread XIV

I encouraged GH to autoresolve. I think it was a battle that he could not win, although you are welcome to give it a spin and see how it goes when fought manually.
10-13-2007, 10:42
FactionHeir

Re: Out of character thread XIV

I'm not allowed to load up the save though.
Still, I guess it depends on whether GH had any cavalry and the map.
10-13-2007, 11:01
econ21

Re: Out of character thread XIV

If any one can help me fill in some of the battle statistics table, it would be appreciated:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=286

Specifically, Stig, Ignoramus, Tamur, Dutch_guy and Cecil all have fought battles that I have no numbers for.
10-13-2007, 11:20
OverKnight

Re: Out of character thread XIV

How close are we to a report on 1318? Due to the blackout I'm more curious than usual. I'm also surprised, and a little disappointed, that the Byzzies didn't want to have another go at Matthias.
10-13-2007, 11:43
econ21

Re: Out of character thread XIV

Quote:

Originally Posted by OverKnight

How close are we to a report on 1318? Due to the blackout I'm more curious than usual.

I am aiming for tonight sometime. Northnovas has to fight his battle. I want to resolve the stop-start Battle of Normandy. Then there is the vexed question of who commands the Saxon Household Army to sort out. I would like to clear up this stuff to clear the stage for TinCow's takeover to begin with a bang.

Quote:

I'm also surprised, and a little disappointed, that the Byzzies didn't want to have another go at Matthias.

I think may be one improvement of the strategic AI over previous TWs. I've found the M2TW AI is much less keen to through itself into a bridge assault. That said, if all the Byzantine armies north of you did through themselves over the bridge, you would be doomed (I don't want to spoil the blackout, but there seemed to be a lot of them.)
10-13-2007, 11:44
Northnovas

Re: Out of character thread XIV

I have the save and will continue. If ther are no other defensive battle will finish the turn and take the screen shots for the opening turn.
10-13-2007, 12:08
Privateerkev

Re: Out of character thread XIV

Quote:

Originally Posted by econ21

Then there is the vexed question of who commands the Saxon Household Army to sort out.

I will say that the Franconian thread has been quite lively and made for some great reading. Nice to see some drama in there that Jan had nothing to do with for a change. :2thumbsup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by econ21

I think may be one improvement of the strategic AI over previous TWs. I've found the M2TW AI is much less keen to through itself into a bridge assault. That said, if all the Byzantine armies north of you did through themselves over the bridge, you would be doomed (I don't want to spoil the blackout, but there seemed to be a lot of them.)

I have found, that if you have a unit that can deploy stakes, and arty, that you can hold a bridge pretty much indefinitely. Unless the enemy are Timurids due to the ridiculous long range of their "Arnolds". In my SP games, I am always England and I have soaked up and destroyed a full Mongol horde (3 waves consolidated at once) in one turn. Once you pop their arty with counter-battery fire, they just march their horseys in a neat single file row right up to the Mongol shish-kebab that you set up.

Of course, I always play on E/E because I mainly play for the campaign experience. :beam:
10-13-2007, 12:55
Northnovas

Re: Out of character thread XIV

Karl's first European battle wasn't much:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

https://i201.photobucket.com/albums/...deployment.jpg

The results:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

https://i201.photobucket.com/albums/...8b-victory.jpg
https://i201.photobucket.com/albums/...288-4stats.jpg

There is another defensive battle for 1318. Some Hungarians came out of Sofia and attacked Karolinger's Army.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

https://i201.photobucket.com/albums/...sivebattle.jpg

Here's the save ready to go:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1318-7.zip

Good Luck WH!
10-13-2007, 13:52
GeneralHankerchief

Re: Out of character thread XIV

I had no cavalry and about half the total force was militia.

After ARing I did manually fight myself and got everyone killed. :hide:
10-13-2007, 15:05
econ21

Re: Out of character thread XIV

I've resolved the battle of Normandy. Neither side pressed the attack, so it was an inconclusive draw.

Both sides will head back to their Citadels (under the cataclysm, as I understand it, captains can't move so if people want reinforcements, they will have to pick them up).
10-13-2007, 15:09
FactionHeir

Re: Out of character thread XIV

Since they are entrenched in their positions, moving off would result in some losses, right?

Time to bring on the artillery :grin:

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