The Antigonids : A Makedonian AAR

Chapter 24 : The Romani War (Part II)

With three successful Makedone invasions, the war began to heat up. In the northern most regions of Italia, Neikolaos besieged the city of Mediolanium. Having crushed the region's army a month earlier, Neikolaos faced only a small Romani force as they countered:
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Neikolaos possitions himself along a gentle slope and awaits. The Romani march forward, where they recieve arrow fire:
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They continue forward, where they are pelted by javelin:
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Finally, the Romani charge in. Fighting in the center, the flanks of the Celtic line wrap around the sides and surround the Romani elites:
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Soon, the Romani reinforcements arrive. General Quintus Aurelius Cotta charges his cavalry into the Celts on the flank, who turn and face him. The Celtic infantry deal great losses against the light Romani cavalry, who are finished as the Celtic cavalry charge in, killing Quintus:
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As the last army of elite Romani approach, they find themselves too late and alone. Outnumbered, the are easy to defeat:
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As Neikolaos enters the city, he received word that this father and brother have taken Bononia as well, killing the Romani Consul. The population of both cities was displaced and enslaved as the Makedones make their presence known:
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Word also goes across the empire that Perseus has died:
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Perseus, son of Alkyoneus, who had almost become king, dies in Korinthos while planning an attack on Sparte. Rumors go around that it was the Spartans, themselves, who had poisoned him, and if they had they had succeeded, for the campaign was cancelled. Perseus' wife had given him no sons, and now Chrysoloras was the last of the Alkyoneus line.

As Makedonia grieves, a great tremor hits Epieros, killing more than a third of the population of the northern territories:
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Arriving too late to save the city of Mediolanium, an army of Hellene conscripts marches against Neikolaos. Neikolaos offeres them their lives if they surrender, but they are too tainted by Romani lies and decide to fight:
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With the great mountains looming in the distance, the two armies meet:
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Neikolaos orders his cavalry to chase off the skirmishers who are attempting to flank the battle. Chasing them into the forests, the Romani infantry forces loose all support:
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The Hellene levies stand no chance against Neikolaos and his veteren army of Celtic allies. A great many Hellenes die needlessly that day:
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Back in Thrakia, the Kingdom of Tylis had finally run low on food and supplies, suffering a siege that lasted almost two years. With the Metropolites being sent to govern Hellas, the seige is continued by the Thebaios family. Now, they are confronted by the city defenders as they sally forth in one last, doomed, attempt to lift the Makedone siege:
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The Tylisians sally out of the city and attempt to attack the flanks of the defending pike line, but are countered by loyal Thrakians:
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Meanwhile others attack the center of the Makedone line:
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The army of Tylis can't stand for long and soon flee back into the city. A surrender follows. No civilians are harmed:
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With little activity since Demetrios had sailed for Sikilia, the African front once again comes to life. Marching across the desert, an army of Kart-Hadast besiege the garrison at Kyrene:
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Sharing a hatred of the Makedonian Empire, Kart-Hadast also ally with Hayasdan around the same time. Suffering defeats in India, the Seleukids turned their attension to expanding in Armenia, declaring war on Hayasdan:
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With the act of agression by the Seleukids, the Ptolemaioi brake the conditions of their surrender and once again declared themselves allies of Hayasdan. It seems that the Seleukids had started something that was going to escalate:
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With Mediolanium secure, Neikolaos marches his Celtic forces north, over the mountains, to attack Romani holdings in Gaul. Once over the mountains, Neikolaos confronts an army of Romani and their allies near the source of the two great rivers of the continent:
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As Neikolaos marched his forces forward, the Romani decide that they do not wish to fight. Fleeing from the battle, Celts chase the Romani down:
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The remaining Romani then garrison themselves in the city of Aventicos, as Neikolaos besieged it:
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As Neikolaos besieges the city of Aventicos, Demetrios fights his own battle on the far side of Romani territory:
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Lining up his men in a clearing between two patches of trees, Demetrios prepares his men for the battle:
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The first Romani army charges the center of the Makedone line, supported by Peltastai:
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Circling around the flanks, the Basilikon Agema charge in at the side of the engaged Romani:
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Meanwhile, the cavalry devisions of both armies engage eachother off to the side of the battle:
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Before too long, the Romani cavalry are once again bested and two Romani senators fall dead. With the death of their generals, the Romani army turns and starts to flee. Demetrios has his cavalry wipe out many of the fleeing Romani but is forced to fall back as the second Romani force approaches:
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The second Romani army to engage the phalangites don't stand for long, and as they flee the Makedone phalangites give chase:
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During the chase, one group of Pezhetairoi are soon confronted by Romani elites hiding in the forest:
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The Romani elites are soon joined by others, as an entire Romani army charged from hiding and attacks the disorganized Pezhetairoi:
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Although, the ambush was well planned, the Romani lacked the quality and quantity of manpower to pull it off. Before long, all the ambushers lay dead and Demetrios marches into the city of Rhegion:
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The known world in 210BC, two years into the Romani War:
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Next: Chapter 25 : The Romani War (Part III)

wow- im surprised you only conquered that much of italy. with all the victories youve had, it seems as if the romani were completely destroyed!
great job!

Sweet, Great update

In the history of EB, has anyone ever conquered every city on the map?

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Originally Posted by Mordrorru

In the history of EB, has anyone ever conquered every city on the map?

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Without cheats? I doubt it:clown:
im on my Romani campaign and I have to close about......108 citys I think....but
still its close to 56BC and I have about two in a half stacks running around putting down revolts everywhere, the unrest is killer:wall: holding Syria is becoming a problem:sweatdrop:
BTW GO MARCUS GO finish those Romani:smash:

Thanks for the comments.

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Originally Posted by hooahguy14

wow- im surprised you only conquered that much of italy. with all the victories youve had, it seems as if the romani were completely destroyed!
great job!

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The Romani don't go quietly into the night. They put up a huge fight, just ask Hannibal. I think I've broken their military, though. From about this chapter onwords, it is only a matter of taking their cities.

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Originally Posted by Mordrorru

In the history of EB, has anyone ever conquered every city on the map?

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I don't think I've ever seen or heard of anyone doing so. For one thing, you can't take the desert territory without cheating.
This is the most I've ever conquered:
https://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9026/120ci2.jpg
(My v0.80 Romani campaign and subject of my last AAR.)
(The Year 120BC.)

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(My v0.80 Romani campaign and subject of my last AAR.)

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You had a Roman ARR? Link? :laugh4:

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For one thing, you can't take the desert territory without cheating.

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Who put a city in the game that you can't capture?

My Romani AAR wasn't that good. I didn't have many pictures, so all it was was my bad writting. I ended up giving up on it before I got past the second story point.

Every territory needs a town and the EB team wanted some territories to be unconquerable, so the town in the Sahara is inaccessable. It also stores some nonsensical buildings that will track the script progress.

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Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus

This is the most I've ever conquered:
https://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9026/120ci2.jpg
(My v0.80 Romani campaign and subject of my last AAR.)

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"And MAA wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer".

:laugh4:

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My Romani AAR wasn't that good. I didn't have many pictures, so all it was was my bad writting. I ended up giving up on it before I got past the second story point.

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Think you'll get farther here than you did in your Roman Campaign?

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Originally Posted by mrtwisties

"And MAA wept, for there were no more worlds to conquer".

:laugh4:

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That's the main reason that I quit, that and internal pre1.0 versions needed testing. I still had Persia to conquer, but you can only fight so many stacks of archer cataphracts before going insane. Though I had five full stack legions, including a preatorian legion under the command of my emperor, in possition to take all of Persia. I never quite got to that invasion...

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Originally Posted by Mordrorru

Think you'll get farther here than you did in your Roman Campaign?

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I don't know. My original plan was just to retake all of Alexander's empire until the Romans and Carthaginians got in my way. I'll probably end up quitting due to another version release of EB.

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Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus

I don't know. My original plan was just to retake all of Alexander's empire until the Romans and Carthaginians got in my way. I'll probably end up quitting due to another version release of EB.

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You've probably got time...

You'd have to conquer all the suicids and maybe some parthians. That's alot of pikes and horse archers...

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I'll probably end up quitting due to another version release of EB.

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I hope it's not too soon. I'm a hundred years into a campaign I really enjoy, and I won't want to deal with the temptation to update.

Man the Romani sure do field crap armies dont they.

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Originally Posted by Gaivs

Man the Romani sure do field crap armies dont they.

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Indeed.

I was considering taking a couple of mercenaries and using auto_win to wipe out the entire Romani military then use the create_unit cheat to make them a couple realistic Polybian legions. But I've tried that before in a different campaign and they'll do stupid things like send all of their hastati after you unassisted, garrison their towns with princepes, and combine their Triarii with newly made Lugoae stacks.

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Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus

Thanks for the comments.

The Romani don't go quietly into the night. They put up a huge fight, just ask Hannibal. I think I've broken their military, though. From about this chapter onwords, it is only a matter of taking their cities.

I don't think I've ever seen or heard of anyone doing so. For one thing, you can't take the desert territory without cheating.
This is the most I've ever conquered:
https://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9026/120ci2.jpg
(My v0.80 Romani campaign and subject of my last AAR.)
(The Year 120BC.)

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WOW you got close to mine but I got ALL of AFRICA:egypt:
but wow marcus you got England?? I skip that for last all the time.
BTW you killed a horse-archer faction??? man I would have went nuts:sweatdrop:

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Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus

I'll probably end up quitting due to another version release of EB.

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and when will that be?????
i hope its very far away, for my and your AAR's sakes......

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Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

WOW you got close to mine but I got ALL of AFRICA:egypt:
but wow marcus you got England?? I skip that for last all the time.
BTW you killed a horse-archer faction??? man I would have went nuts:sweatdrop:

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I tried to expand historically, then once I had all of Trajan's conquests I went for Germania and Persia. The Casse can be quite difficult since they'll have like four stacks waiting for you on the coast, but I found that hiring Sarmatians and sending them to Britain was a good way of dealling with the celtic swarms. Armenia fell pretty quickly but cost me two legions, good thing I had four invading. I played that campaign for about six months and it was the platform for both the 080 CTD fix I made and the City Mod's development. But controlling AI expansion was quite the headache.

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and when will that be?????
i hope its very far away, for my and your AAR's sakes......

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I honestly don't know when the next release will be. Honestly...

Chapter 25 : The Romani War (Part III)

With northern Italia secured, Neikolaos moved north to conquer Romani holdings in Gaul and return them to Makedonia's Gallic allies. Neikolaos had not considered the number of Gauls that were willing to fight for the Romani, though. Soon Neikoalaos finds himself under attack by huge numbers of Romani allies:
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At first it seems that the Romani city garrison is unable to arrive and Neikolaos only has to fend off one army. As the battle begins, the Romani immediately rush their cavalry to the Makedone left flank:
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The main battle line is unable to counter any flanking, however, as the main Romani army follows soon after:
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The two lines charge eachother, and the fighting erupts. Just then, the Romani reinforcements appear on a distant ridge and appoach the battle:
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Completely outnumbered, Neikolaos' Celtic forces begin to waver. Just then, the Romani cavalry charge in at the undefended archers in the rear:
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Completely outnumbered and surrounded, Neikolaos orders a retreat. His men run for a wheat field and attempt to disappear into the forests:
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Even though the Romani took more losses, they win the day and Neikolaos retreats back to Italia:
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With Neikolaos falling back to defend northern Italia, Nepos and Gelon move south to cut Romani territories in half and put pressure on the Romani capital:
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With a loss on the Romani front, the Makedonian Empire faced with another tight spot. The city of Kyrene has been besieged by the forces of Kart-Hadast and Antisthenes Gortynios, son-in-law of Demetrios is forced to protect the city without reinforcements. Now, the the forces of Kart-Hadast march forward to attack the city:
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As the battle begins, the Qarthadastism move their ladders and a ram for the western wall while they move a ram and a tower to the north and a lone tower to the south. Under fire from flaming arrows and the ballista in the towers, the ram to the north soon collapses:
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To the south, the tower is set on fire and is abandonned:
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Charging from the northern gate, Antisthenes Gortynios, leads a charge against the final tower and breaks the Kart-Hadast infantry:
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To the west, however, both the ladders and ram reach the walls of Kyrene:
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On the walls, archers and levied phalangitai are forced to fend off the Qarthadastism:
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Soon the gate breaks open and the elite enemies march through the gateway:
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Followed by the Kart-Hadast general, the elites engage the Makedone gateway defenders. Unprepared [and for some reason deciding to point their spears the opposite direction] one unit breaks formation and attacks with their swords:
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As the wall defenders to the north of the gateway finish off the Kart-Hadast assualting them, Anitsthenes charges his cavalry through the gateway and attacks the rear of the Kart-Hadast general:
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The enemy general soon dies and before long only a few Kart-Hadast elites remain, unable to get back to their ladders and flee from the walls:
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The levied garrison bravely defends the city from the elite forces of Kart-Hadast and win a great victory:
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To the north, Rhodian tyrant Damasos dies peacefully, allowing Chyroloras to complete the transition of Rhodos into the Makedonian Empire. With Rhodos seccured, Chrysoloras sails his army north to Mytilene on Lesbos to complete the final integration of the Hellenes:
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And in Sparte, Neokles and Bykoli, sons of Aristotelis complete their warrior training with the Spartans:
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Upon the completion of their training, their father orders them to Athenai to train at the newly rebuild school and library. After a year of studying, Neokles is to join his grandfather Demetrios, and Bykoli is to return to Syria to rejoin his father:
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Back in Italia, Nepos and Gelon find themselves under attack by three armies of the Romani:
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Moving the cavalry and skirmishers to to counter the Gallic reinforcements, Nepos prepares his main battle line to confront the first of the Romani armies:
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Charging forward, the Romani Hoplitai make breaking through the sarrisa pike line look easy. They start dueling with the Pezhetairoi forced to resort to swords:
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Moving the flanks of the pike line to encircle the Romani, Nepos orders Gelon to devert the cavalry to the rear and completely encircle the Romani, including the newly arrived second army:
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Charging from the rear, Gelon manages to break the Romani elites:
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With the Romani fleeing, the pike line breaks formation and charges after them:
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The majority of the dishonored Romani fall before the can flee the field. As the Gelon chases down the remaining routers, Nepos orders the phalangitai to regroup and face the last remaining Romani army, the Gallic allies:
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Moving slowly forward, the phalangitai pin in the Gallic soldiers:
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Returning from their chase, the cavalry charges in and breaks the last army. All men give chase, but many Gallic allies escape:
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Taking the city, Nepos' men loot the city while killing or selling much of the population into slavery:
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Failing at warfare, the Romani send many agents, spies, and assassins to fight a hidden battle against the Makedonian Empire. Unable to honorably counter the threat, Demetrios sends for two veteran assassins of the Aigyptos war. Lead by Paramonos, the two teams begin first eliminate the Romani spy network then cause trouble for the Romani:
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Among one of the great achievements is the sabatage of the aquaducts of Roma, causing panic within the city:
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With all the underground achievements of the Makedonian Empire, Demetrios begins to become known well for his usage of assassins:
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But even with his military skills and spying exploits, Demetrios is mostly known as a kind and generous ruler. Even in his old age, he never forgets to assist those in need in his empire, even if it is harmful economically:
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The kind old man's mind turns back to war, however. Knowing that the strength of Kart-Hadast lies in her trade and knowing that the Romani can hold out forever as long as they continue to receive Kart-Hadast grain imports, Demetrios sets out to devide the trade lanes. Knowing that the islands to the west are vital to the trade route, especially with Makedone fleets partrolling around Sikilia, Demetrios sets out for Sardon. Leaving an army of Syrakousians and mercenaries in Rhegion, Demetrios boards his army onto the Ambrakian fleet and sails west:
https://img81.imageshack.us/img81/7417/maa1138zy1.png

Meanwhile, to the north, Neikolaos moves his newly reinforced Gallic army south to conquer the last Romani stonghold in norther Italia:
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The known world in 209BC, three years into the Romani War:
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Next: Chapter 26 : The Romani War (Part IV) (aka When Gauls Have Your Back)

Great update MarcusAureliusAntoninus, I bet the rest of the romans in Italy will be of no concern.

Btw, when are you to disperse the remainders of the pathetic Ptolemaios? I miss the eastern front.

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*Evil laughter, and hollow cackle*

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Now, take the rest of Italy, and conquer the Qarthadastim, and you've got yourself a pretty neat, little empire. :yes:

Thats really strange for both the Audei AND the Arverni to conquer Germania as they did. How awesome!

The Ptolemaioi are a completley harmless buffer state. If I wanted to, I could conquer them at any time. However, beyond them the Seleukids are very violent and would certainly betray me if I bordered them.

I don't know what to do about Carthage either. There is no way of invading that doesn't open up a huge front with the desert...

The Audei would be in the Ukraine by now if the Romans hadn't invaded them, and the Arverni would be dead. The only reason the Arverni lived as long as they did is because I allied with both Gallic nations causing a ceasefire between them. Arverni built up a military, betrayed the Aedui and seem to be back with a vengence.

Your Romaioi war is awesome! Very good updates. I only wonder how Demetrios can get so old. I said that a hundred times or so but all my generals always die with 62.~:0

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Originally Posted by Centurio Nixalsverdrus

Your Romaioi war is awesome! Very good updates. I only wonder how Demetrios can get so old. I said that a hundred times or so but all my generals always die with 62.~:0

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He died once. When I was marching to Kyrene after taking Ammonion, but I quit and reloaded the previous turn. I just wasn't ready for him to die. (I know, shame on me, that's bad for role-playing. I justified it by saying that the game engine doesn't recognize 4tpy and kills off people twice as fast as it intends to.) Besides that he's been quite healthy. He's definately my new Alexander. He has been in the army or lead 95% of all non-Hellas conquests.

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Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus

He died once. When I was marching to Kyrene after taking Ammonion, but I quit and reloaded the previous turn. I just wasn't ready for him to die. (I know, shame on me, that's bad for role-playing. I justified it by saying that the game engine doesn't recognize 4tpy and kills off people twice as fast as it intends to.) Besides that he's been quite healthy. He's definately my new Alexander. He has been in the army or lead 95% of all non-Hellas conquests.

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So...he only died that one time, eh? No, er, other times?

those shots from the battle you eventually lost, those are the sorta shots that make me say "this is why TW games are great"

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So...he only died that one time, eh? No, er, other times?

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Well, he died about five times that year. I kept reloading but he kept dying. Finally he survived and I haven't had to cheat the same way since.

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Originally Posted by paullus

those shots from the battle you eventually lost, those are the sorta shots that make me say "this is why TW games are great"

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I didn't expect the Romans to have those numbers in the area. At least I made them pay for that victory.

I've enjoyed this very much MAA!

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Originally Posted by MarcusAureliusAntoninus

Well, he died about five times that year. I kept reloading but he kept dying. Finally he survived and I haven't had to cheat the same way since.

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Not the same way? ;)