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Indeed. The plebs are becoming increasingly numerous so we must resort to our superior intelect as to counter the bruteness of those plebians.
Anyways, there are a few lurkers who I don't recall having said much throughout the thread, which are taka, Ichigo and Tristan de Castelrang.
I had a very busy week-end and yesterday I was busy at work and with my other Org duties (MP forum).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I haven't been able to pay proper attention to this game, sorry. In fact, I didn't pay much attention to the whole Gameroom the last three days :shame:
What I was trying to say, was that TinCow's defense of Ares connected them both. You can correct me if I'm wrong, but TinCow defended Ares from the very start, when it was not certain that he was getting lynched.
The fact that Ares is as good as certain scum, makes the connection between both even more interesting.
However, when reading TC's posts more carefully, he sounds rather sincere to me:
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Unvote : TinCow
Meh, it's night. :wall:
EDIT: I have to be guilty, since a mafioso would know when it's night and when it's day.
The clientele had thinned out a bit at the Dog & :daisy:
Despite the generous servings of lamb kebabs served with a mutton stew, those drinkers who were still warming their various parts at the fire and supping of the good stuff had not the same humour about them as on previous nights.
What had begun as an adventure had swiftly twisted into something of a nightmare and much of what the settlers wished to discuss with one another remained unsaid... scattered into the pit of grief they felt when they thought of the friends they had lost since their voyage began. But it was not just grief that held their tongues: Also they were silenced by the choking grip of fear.. fear for their own lives; fear spelt out in the distrust which pierced the air between them and fear for who... or what might be waiting for them after the fire's embers died down.
"Shame about awww them sheep wunnit really"
"Chomp!, scrontch! Slurp!"
"O yarrr, foine flock"
"Lovely drippin' pass that bread"
"So whass all this about the bloke who turned into a fish again?"
"Some koind of Religious row that one... bess left to the priests if you ask me"
"Oi thort at first it might be the Good Men who were behoind all this trubble, but now..."
"Nah. All in the same boat we are - even since reachin' droi laaaaaand."
"True enough my Man, Us Good Men may lack your numbers, but our quality shines through in our service to the Priest King, in a manner quite unachievable to those of your station"
"Eh? do you want a sla.."
"Shurrup! we're all friends here.."
The sentence hung in the cool evening air and wafted up with the motes of ash into the dark. Despite the sense of fraternity between many of the Settlers, it was clear that there were those amongst them who were NOT their friends....not friends at all.
I'm more active when I'm at work than when I'm at home, because when I'm at home these days I'm playing ETW or watching TV. Thus, for a while now I've only been posting in the evenings when it's something short that I can respond to quickly, or if it is urgent. Public posts in this game do not usually tend to be either. In relation to Day 2 in specific, I also felt like I had contributed everything that I had that was worth saying. I gave my defense to Sasaki and that's the only reply I've got to his accusations. There's no point in me saying anything further because my original statement was the truth and I don't see any utility in pounding it into peoples heads with multiple posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
"Quite obviously innocent." Yes, you get yourself into this situation in every single game because you're so clearly innocent every single time. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
You know, eventually you guys will figure me out. But so far, you've been off the mark quite a bit. You'd think I'd be slightly more careful with my life when I am mafia than to piddle it all away by leaving the vote on myself, keeping that challenge going until seireikhaan dropped it himself, and so on and so forth.
Ooops, sorry, I apologize, dead men tell no loies. I were mafiarr aw this time, 'ow did you know? Wot were the big giveaway? :laugh4: In all seriousness, you guys just collectively farted on a mason, then lit the match and let me burn to death. Soon enough, my partner will reveal himself and explain just how silly that was of you.
Oh, but it wer the woine in front 'o me, Mister TinCow, 'ad to bee, 'ad to bee. If there were woine, and it wer in fron' o meeee, yarr, Oi must've put the poison init, because that way, you'd think I were innocent; yarr but it didn't turn ot tharrr way, dinnit? But wot if I put the woine... in fron' of yoooouuu.... that moight be a bit more clever, it moight be, it moight be... but only a fool wuld drink it, yarr??? So it moost be tha woine in front 'o me.... but per'aps I'm clever enooof not to be soo ovvious, moiybe I put the woine in fron't of yooouu....
That was a baaaaaad thing you did with your sheep, Pizza. You should have skipped town entirely...taken it on the lamb as it were.....
:devilish:
Listen, if some of you men had thunk just a little bit into the future, you'd have remembered to bring some women along. Perhaps not on the ship, that's bad luck, but even if they were tied to a rope and floating outside the boat...
Maybe they could have been used to catch some really really big fish. Or a mermaid! I'd bag one of those.
The basic flaw with the above statements is that you're acting like we're all incredibly selfless townies. Some of us are mafia, some of us are townies who still want other townies dead, and some of us are regular townies who just want to remain alive. You make yourself an easy target, so people exploit it. You get lynched because it's an easy way to distract the vote from themselves or other vulnerable people, or to otherwise obscure a vulnerability in their position or buy time. People don't have to actually think that you're mafia to vote for you. They can fully believe that you're a townie, but be perfectly happy using you as a meat shield against the lynch. It's not a coincidence that I pushed for your lynch in a round when I was under attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Hehehe.... you're welcome.
Note: I shall be at a funeral tomorrow and have v. limited internet access. Will try to check comp in the morning before we leave (GMT)
It is unfortunate ATPG died... it usually is.... when he gets lynched he's never usually one of my suspects... unfortunatly there where quite a few innocents in the lynch list i think... no one really deserving of my suspicion... hopefully we have something better to go on next turn...
FoS: LittleGrizzly
Sympathy now is useless to me. :laugh2:
(j/k)
*Makes silent prayer to OsiOsi and his divine servant Reenk Roink for protection through the coming night*
I don't want you guys killing each other whilst I'm gone... got it?
*snoreS*
Mmmm... sweet, sweet death. How I love thee. Let me count the ways. I'm already up to 665.... just one more. If I cap myself in pevergreen's game, I'm changing my title to "Suicide King". That would be 4 games in a row I offered/succeeded in killing myself. :7king:
The dirt feels so good between my toes... the worms feel so good between my organs.
Maybe you could try being a useful townie for more than one or two turns ?
Think about it if you ever get a power town role people will lynch you for not doing your usual offering yourself strategy... or if you get mafia role... i care less about the second one though...
Edit: Thinking about it i hope to god your never my mafia partner!
LG-
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All I am saying is that there is room for unorthodox strategies. Didn't we just learn this in the Godfather game from Reenk Roink?
Hardly unorthodox... :snobby:Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
You're as unorthodox as they come, Reenkster.
That's a compliment, by the way. You had me in the palm of your hands last game, and totally derailed my train of thought.
:bow: to the master.
Was reveal after dead allowed?
yes, absolutely. All I can't do after I am dead is quote PM's, I think, according to the rules.
So now, the only person who can reveal the proof of all your role PM's that you sent me is my partner, and I don't want him to do that. Best to protect everyone for as long as necessary.
Edit: And my apologies, GeneralHankerchief; but it seems Godfather will be de-throned after all. :shame:
The reason the night has been extended if you're wondering is to shuffle up some of the timings which I had planned to do (and thank god I got the most inconvenient one out of the way from the start :laugh4:). The new timings will be around 15:00 - 20:00 EST for a couple of rounds (this night will end no later than 20:00).
This is a chance for you late PM senders, take it! :bow:
Night has ended, writeup coming.
Hopefully we have a more peaceful night tonight...
:sweatdrop::sweatdrop: I know I am dead......:juggle2:Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
any reason why?
Strange. Forgive me, White_eyes, but you're lynch bait at the moment for your odd behavior thus far. I don't see why the mafia would murder you.
because it feels like super powered roles are running around:juggle2:.....and I got nothing to fight back with but my trusty hoe.:scared:Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain Blackadder
You claimed to be a farmer, didn't you White_Eyes?
Farmer=Hoe(farming tool)=tilling the fields....I have no way to fight anyone....and I also have no way to vote anyone to death....I only count as one vote.....:sweatdrop: means I am screwed...:clown:
:stupido:
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As the sun retired to her resting place the man named Shlin went to his tent which did not contain much more than a severely overused combat dummy. Shlin was a soldier as his father and his father's father had been, and he did not spend long days on the field or in the office. Rather, he continued to practice his swordplay and keep his martial skills sharp for the day that battle would call again.
The sonorous sound of his sword striking the combat dummy was disturbed by the sudden entrance of a short red robed man, who grimly looked at Shlin. Shlin immediately turned his attention to the intruder and charged him. He was no more than two paces away when the sorcerer of Vode directed a burst of lightning at Shlin, hurling him back. Recovering from the shock, Shlin got up and exclaimed: "Foul magician, it will take more than that cantrip to fell this warrior!"
The robed sorcerer thus hurled another burst of lightning at Shlin, this one clearly causing damage to the hardy warrior. Yet although Shlin was unable to pick himself up after the second attack, he still defiantly exclaimed: "You are weak behind the evil magics given to you by your god. You cannot slay me with the sword!"
This statement of Shlin caused the grim faced sorcerer to raise an eyebrow. He then reached out with his hand and somehow took Shlin's sword out of his hand, causing it to float right above the wounded soldier. The red robed sorcerer then forcefully jerked his hand downwards and the sword mimicked the motion, running through Shlin.
As the sun rose from her slumber, all the settlers once again were called to the gathering hall by the priest king who informed them of the murders. So the discussions began, with Yoyoma once again joining in late in a limited capacity as his mind was clouded by drink.Quote:
Meanwhile, the man named Hankerchief sat in his house drinking wine and thinking of his glorious past. He reminisced about the days when he was a simple farmer boy who answered the call when the people called for a hero at their darkest hour during the Great Civil War. He rose up from his humble beginnings to reach the position of priest king from which he then began to conquer the largest empire our people have ever seen, effectively ending the Civil War and ushering an age of great peace and prosperity.
He then stepped down from his place as the most powerful man in the land to devote himself to knowledge. Later he would write about his heroic deeds. Even later these writings would be stripped from the history books as it was realized that Hankerchief simply had a vivid imagination and had made everything he documented up. Yet in his mind, Hankerchief was still a glorious general.
So the self styled general spent his night sitting on his fine chair, not realizing that a man had entered his house and drew a blade from behind him. So the life of the self styled general ended as his throat was slit and even more, the story of him would be lost forever as the killer proceeded to grind up the pages of the last remaining copy of Hankerchief's history into a fine powder and snort it.
Challenge List:
Alive:
taka
White_eyes:D
seireikhaan
Lord Winter
Captain Blackadder
Psychonaut
CountArach
FactionHeir
Andres
boudica
Jolt
TinCow
Ichigo
Yoyoma1910
Tristan de Castelrang
Sigurd
LittleGrizzly
Seamus Fermanagh
Executed:
777Ares777
Askthepizzaguy
Fallen in battle:
Killed:
TheFlax
pevergreen
Gaius Scribonius Curio
Sasaki Kojiro
Beefy187
shlin28
GeneralHankerchief
Day ends on Thursday, March 19 at 18:00 Eastern
Well....I knew shlin would die....he had a high duel score...or at least pretended too...:juggle2:
GH...I have no idea...:dizzy2: "the drug-scribe killer" that's the name of whoever is killing Good men now.....:smash:
There had better not be a purple names getting voted this round. Anyone who tries it gets my instant Bony Skeleton Finger of Suspicion.
Worth it. :laugh4:
-edit- By the way, vote for FactionHeir.
Seamus has been all to quiet for my taste...sigurd as well.
Also, I find the weird accent stuff impossible, so can anyone tell me if boudica has actually commented on the game?
???? did you catch your killer? like pevergreen? or just worth it, to die in the write-up like that?:laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Just to die like that.
And yeah, Seamus is worth a look.
Either make a case or don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Hmm you know, I don't know where I got the idea that the knife killer was one of the usurpers. It doesn't mention vode in his kill descriptions and he seems to target just the good men.
GH were you another Scribe? Man, someone has an obcession for destroying books.
Once again, Tristan, Ichigo and taka remain ever silent.
I'll use my Good Men voting muscle to Vote: Ichigo. I still don't see any major suspects and there are quite a few lurkers skipping rounds and rounds without saying a word.
Is there Wrath Of Reenk?:clown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolt
Im pretty sure he said theres no penalties for being inactive...
Well at least were down to 2 kills
GH and Gaius were scribes ?
Edit: i must be slacking im usually a bit higher up the posting list...
Edit 2: no clear suspects to my mind unless were going for the lynch the lurker strategy that always works so well...
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Ok this isn't a "my number is bigger than yours contest" but if we are going to start lynching lurkers to get them talking, this is for reference.
Either townies should start talking, or be prepared to die.
Edit: Deads and host crossed off.
Well.....lurkers victory if there is no WOG....:no: I am going to Vote:Sigurd....my puny vote, well in no way get him lynched...but he might start talking.:book:Quote:
Originally Posted by ATPG
Yoyoma was blocked and tonight there was one less kill. I'm in favor of seeing whether that actually means something or not (By not blocking Yoyoma next night and seeing how many kills we get)
Myself and The Flax were scribes. It would seem from the write-up that GH was as well. If so then I am totally confused as to how a foul adherent of the ideals of reading managed to find and destroy so many scribes so quickly.....Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly
Perhaps, he only targets Good Men??? (makes sense....you guys have more voting power) I recall thinking, when I started this game I thought "If I was the Mafia/SK, I would take out most of the Good men" since then....town's voting power would be halved.:thumbsdown:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaius Scribonius Curio
Too many lurking their way through this game
Now, I shall Vote: Sigurd, who has played lame
From him, we need more talk
We can't allow a balk
Tell us why we should not assign you blame
Yeah i thought of that as well... most kills have been good men... seems town only lynches men though.. it will be intresting to see which good men remain...Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D
Edit the fact they were all scribes is a bit coincidental... unless most of the good men were/are scribes....
Rules:
As is stands, I can receive quoted information, I just can no longer send it. I'd have to completely paraphrase (put into my own words) all further info. I'll repeat my call for people to claim a role, no role, or a duel rating, or continue to remain silent if they wish. As of this time, I can receive quoted information. I just can't repost it to anyone.Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Well, the night Yoyoma was blocked, the god Pisuf did not kill anyone, while the sorcerer and the Scribe-killer killed again. That may mean that Yoyoma is Pisuf.
So far the Scribe-killer has only killed Good Men. There is no indication that he is a follower of Vode whatsoever, which probably means more than one Mafia. Quite possibly the Scribe killer might be a SK, whose objective is to kill every scribe, or every Good Men (Maybe he was lucky to get 3 scribes in a row?). The sorcerer, which is a follower of Vode, has killed everyone with little effort (Even shlin which was apparently a soldier), which might mean he has 100% success (Or not?), he has killed beefy first, which is a good men, and was targetted by ATPG. It might be ATPG's colleague (Which is still unknown who he is and therefore no way to confirm whether he is innocent or guilty, given the fact that ATPG himself suspected of his colleague). Ever since the Tax Collector died, he has reverted to killing a normal man. (This one is the first.)
I'd say that there are two different Mafias, due to different MOs, and different patterns (The Scribe Killer kills scribes, the sorcerer hasn't made a pattern yet.)
I think what's more concerning is that the killer actually knows who is a scribe and who isn't.
Also, its odd that Pisuf hasn't been active this night, or maybe he can only act against certain characters? Or maybe only every even night?
but here's the thing....HOW does he know, who is a scribe? I would think he is just limiting the number of Good men....so this way there is no chance a person with 2 votes can get lucky and lynch him..:juggle2: (means it's not a "Good Man" who is killing good men....but the other guy...the wizard is likely one, since I imagine he would love his books....:book:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolt
I've no reason to suspect my partner at this point besides the paranoia of all the scribes going down. The trouble is, we did not get all the information about all the scribes, if I recall correctly. There were at least a couple scribes I think that did not reveal to us. Gaius and GH didn't reveal squat.
That tells me that the mafia have the ability to target just the scribes, have massive investigation powers, or are just plain really, really lucky. My question is; why are the scribes priority targets? Perhaps it is just because they are Good Men, and the Men want them dead.
If the mafia keep this up, we won't need to lynch off the Good Men, so I suggest we focus on the Men. But that's my opinion, and I encourage you to use the information you have that I am not privy to, to make up your own minds.
I was a Bureaucrat.
By the way, I changed my mind. Everyone needs to vote for Andres. Do this immediately.
OK....Reason? or better yet evidence?:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Because I said so, that's why.
That doesn't sound like legitimate suspicion. I'd recommend the town completely ignores you.
A reasonless tip is one thing, but you didn't even stick to it. Unless you can explain yourself, there is no reason to follow your lead.
My explanation is that a lynch of a 100% guilty person is much better in the town's interests than a lynch of a possibly guilty person. Andres is your man, gentlemen. If you are wise, you will follow me and heed my teachings.
I'm in favor of an Andres lynch...
We clearly have four separate killers so far. The scribe-killer who uses a knife, the red robed sorcerer, the mace killer, and Pisuf. The mace killer has not reappeared since Ares was lynched, so it's reasonable to assume that we have disposed of him. The sorcerer is mafia, as he was specifically named on N2 as a sorceror of Vode. The scribe-killer is not described in that same manner, so his allegiance is not as clear, but the fact that he's killed three nights in a row makes it extremely unlikely that he's pro-town. Pisuf is likely pro-town or independent with his own goals, but it's hard to determine from the single write-up we have of him.
There is a significant difference between the scribe-killer and the sorcerer, namely that the scribe-killer has a specific MO. It is extremely troubling that he has killed off three writers/scribes on successive nights. This is not a coincidence, these people have been specifically targeted because of their roles. In addition, the scribe-killer must have had the identity of at least TheFlax from the very beginning of the game. He killed right on the first night, so there was no time to investigate. The only way he could have hit a scribe immediately was to already know that TheFlax was a scribe. The successive kills on Gaius Scribonius Curio and GH make it likely that he knew their identities prior to killing them as well. It seems likely that if there are any more scribes out there, the scribe-killer knows who they are and will kill them soon. Thus, I urge any scribes to reveal themselves and help us figure out what is going on. You're almost certainly going to die anyway, so it's worth trying to figure out why you are being targeted. In addition, if there are any doctors in this game, you might get protection by revealing.
Since he is one of the now-dead scribes, GH's statements are particularly curious. First he says lynch FH, then he says lynch Andres. Both are stated in a manner that indicates he knows something. Mind explaining why we should lynch these two, GH?
[edit] Sorry, was writing while GH posted. 100% guilty is a pretty strong statement. Either something about your death pointed you towards him or you had this information previously and didn't disclose it. Which is it?
Well, Andres is most certainly guilty. FH is probably guilty as well, but that's besides the point.
As far as why you should lynch them, the best explanation I can give is that it is the town's objective to lynch the guilty people. Therefore, unless you wish to purposely flout your given objectives, you should lynch Andres. :bow:
If you're a scribe and need to reveal, while hiding your identity, reveal to me. I would be willing to give both GH and Sasaki the benefit of the doubt; the problem is, neither of them have approached me and even hinted why.
I don't have a better suspect than Andres, so I can't exactly defend him. I am just curious why, and "I said so" isn't much of a case. Whatever... I'm just along for the ride.
I say you need to justify this somehow, unless it's specifically barred by the rules.
i say we lynch from the bottom up :laugh4:
on a more serious note
Vote: andres
i know i dont talk/post much, but it seems andres is a bit too quiet for my liking, not seen him post much at all
a bit of pressure voting i guess u can call it
I shall take His word
As such, I unvote: Sigurd
And I Vote: Andres
ATPG will be unhappy with me saying this, but he's the only person to whom I revealed I was a scribe before I died. I don't know who he told after that though.
Its also possible that the three men of words killings were a coincidence as I seems a high percentage of Good Men hold roles of the sort. It has been said that the knife killer perhaps only targets Good Men for some reason and that could explain it.
Okay, I believe you guys. Here's Andres' activity.
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Bottom line: I think Andres does have a role. He was here, and he was not helping us, not one bit. And it seems as though there are holes in his story that he was just "too busy".
I don't buy it. From this evidence alone, he needs to explain himself. I'd toss my name into the hat of people who think Andres is guilty.
Vote Andres using my two votes a person from beyond the grave saying that they are 100% sure is good enough for me.
I told Sasaki, and my partner. And everyone who revealed to me can tell people they did so. It does not bother me one bit. I think we are heading towards the part of the game where my partner needs to reveal anyway. Let's see if he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFlax
Hmm...
I suppose it could be like the pever/Ares thing. I don't know... Sounds pretty good though. Likely the "scribe killer" is targeting Good Men, and has gotten two scribes and one diplomat.
Perhaps they ingest the person's work, because they believe it will make them become a good man themselves?
*hick-up*
Anyway, Vote:Andres
...
:zzz:
In other news, I have someone claiming to be the investigator, and either that person is the investigator for real, or I have found not one, but two mafia.
:bow:
Ok I should probably follow up on that with... say... a plan. :deal:
Some come to mind. But suffice it to say, if someone falsely revealed as an investigator, I don't need to come up with a plan. The real investigator will probably come up with one on their own. I have one to suggest, but I prefer to wait and see if anyone bites.
Just to clarify...
I'm not saying that the 'scribe-killer' is definitely out to kill scribes as such. My opinion that given the antagonism between the two schools of thought regarding literacy (of which I belong to the legitimate one), then it is a possibility. It could indeed be luck that the killer is using, attacking the 'Good Men' in full knowledge that the uneducated peasantry would not be scribes. Or it could be as others have suggested that the killer is targeting the 'Good men' for his own other dark purposes.
As a quick note it would make strictly logical sense for any mafioso to target the 'Good Men'. But I won't go into that right now, its easy enough to see why...
Some good points here. So far, the "scribe killer" has accounted for a scribe, an author, and a bureacrat -- all Boni. The last was wonderfully funny, but the "writing" was inconsequential to GH's role -- the kill seemed more for parallelism and enjoying the label we've hung on the killer.Quote:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D
Also, White_eyes point about eliminating the double voters makes sense -- a simple yet powerful reduction of the most deadly lynch opponents. This needs to be factored into our thinking.
btw, apropos of nothing whatever, Reenk really liked the rome-theme mafia game a while ago. "The Boni" or Good Men were a political grouping in Rome that opposed G.J. Caesar -- and eventually knifed him to death. I just get the sense that someone is being playful here....
I see no real case against Andres. Moreover, isn't he off getting drunk at his annual festival? Not that he hasn't used RL as a cover for mafia before -- I know he has -- but is he even in a position to reply to all this pressure?
Blackadder: Why no vote until now? You have not been absent -- you've posted -- yet until now we see you taking no stands at all. :inquisitive:
Tristan: Lurk much? You abstained in round one and have voted not at all since. Get involved me lad...
Sigurd too is underinvolved. And more so than I!
Vote: Tristan
I voted in round one as for round two quite simply I forgot to I meant to vote but just didn't get around to it and as you can see now I am back to voting again.
Small correction. Two scribes (fighting a valiant battle against reading, may I say so myself) and one bureaucrat, which is the latest murder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
GH, you're dead so I don't get it how you can't say howcome you manage to get suspects over your head. Do you have an investigator partner?
Anyways, the tally is (I think):
Andres 7 (taka, Capt. Blackadder, Yoyoma, sereikhaan)
Ichigo 2 (Jolt)
Tristan 1 (Seamus)
Im willing to take the word of a dead innocent for it... it gives me more confidence than going for the lynch the lurker strategy...
Vote Andres
Vote: Abstain
I'm in a hurry. :bow: