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My Arvernian empire in 241 BC
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Began the campaign with kicking Aedui out from the Gallic heartlands, built economy for several years before I got a S/C/V general to begin my almost peaceful unification of Gaul. At the moment I'm at war with Romans, got few veteran stacks and one fresh stack ready to sack Rome, just need to finish retraining.
Really fun campaign this far, after sacking Rome it's probably time to wipe Sweboz out.
Mines jsut an epic 19 yr old Arverni Terminator who exterminated Italy and conquered Germania :P
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The Republic of Qart Hadasht, ca. 219 BCE
The last ten years have been an island of peace and tranquility in a sea of war and destruction. Ever since I conquered the Lusotana by killing their entire royal dynasty, making their remaining settlements fall into anarchy, I have been rebuilding Iberia and upgrading my military infrastructure. (I just got the reforms this turn.) Even though I am nominally at war with both the Romans to my north and the Egyptians to my east, they have refrained from attacking me thanks to their grinding wars with the Macedonians and Seleucids respectively. My huge garrisons in Cyrenaica and Sicilia also help in dissuading the offenders from attacking again, even though they both have armies standing just outside my territory.
I have, at the moment two 'standing' armies, one stationed near Emporion and one near Qart Hadasht, though this last one is only at half-strength. Now that my military reforms have come through, my next task is to build an army to take on the Romans. I've upgraded all my mines in Iberia, so I'm getting roughly 30 000 mnai per turn. This money should allow me to build a nice army, I think. With elephants perhaps.
I need to mention three of my generals, who have made quite a name for themselves in my campaign:
- Massinissa - Son of the current Sophet, led the campaign against the Lusotana, captured most of their settlements. In the final battle against their king he led our forces, heavily outnumbered to a heroic victory, but sadly perished himself, fighting against the enemy king.
- Gades Mastia - Client King of Suguntum, led the heroic defence of Suguntum and, with the city's garrison force, vanquished the enemy, despite being heavily outnumbered and outclassed. Sadly died in the struggle for the city's walls.
- Abdmelqart - Leader of the 3rd 'light' army and in charge of the Island campaign. After the Hellenic League fell apart the senate felt it prudent to move into the aegean by capturing Kreta and Rhodos. The small garrison of Kreta posed no threat to our 3rd army and its settlement was easily conquered, but our reconnaissance had reported a huge army of levy hoplites and skirmishers on Rhodos. Over-confident in his abilities, General Abdmelqart charged the beaches of Rhodos against an army twice as large as his own. Our army was outflanked on both sides and, with the sea in their backs, our forces had no where to run and were completely slaughtered. Of the 1500 men in the 3rd army, only 41 managed to make it back to the ships. Among them of course, the coward General. He was summoned back to Qart Hadasht where he was prompty crucified.
Nice game!
161 BC.
Still seeing oddly passive AI behavior for a VH game. I sent two legions to give the Qarthadastim the boot out of Iberia, and when that was accomplished I fully expected the Lusos - a protectorate of the Qarthadastim - to attack me with their 6 fulls stacks running around not doing much of anything.
But that never happened, so I sent my Hispania Ulterior legion to to take the remaining QH coastal provinces. I've left them the desert provinces and Lepki as a buffer to the mighty Ptolemaoi. I've shipped that general back to Rome to celebrate his triumph, and then it's back to Iberia. I suppose I'm going to have to be the aggressor against the Luso's, starting with Arse.Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
To the north, the peace with the Aedui has held since the game's second turn, and I've periodically given them settlements that I've taken from the Averni when I feel they've gotten too powerful. But after a tough battle to take Gergovia, the Aedui are now refusing to take it, even with Force Diplomacy. :inquisitive:
After being attacked by the Sweboz, I've taken Mediolanum off them, and they send wave after wave of troops trying to get it back to no avail. :laugh4:
On the eastern front, it's more AI passiveness, as I've held borders with the KH and Epiros for years with no attacks. Epiros have lost all their Adriatic holdings and have many full stacks wandering around doing nothing.
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I'm wondering if being a protectorate kills the aggressiveness of a faction. Both the KH and Epiros are protectorates of the Ptolemy's, and the Luso's with the QH.
I wish i had that AI passivness. Lost 3 good generals to massive elite Epirote attacks at Patavium. My fault I guess for leaving a skeleton garrison. Maybe your problem is the massive garrisons scaring their attacks off? Who knows, count yourself lucky though.
If you simply offer a city, with the ability for the AI to choose what they give in return, or even as a gift I think, the AI can refuse even with force diplomacy. You need to request something back at the same time, like 1 mnai or something.
It is nice not to have to fight wars on five different fronts, yes. The problem is I don't like to be too aggressive and now that I've pretty much neutered the QH, and don't wish to expand north, I'm left with not much to do but watch the KH and Epiros amass huge armies and wander around aimlessly. :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Blxz
Thanks, I'll have to give that a try next time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanit
I find map information is the best thing to offer/request in return for whatever you're trying to give/take with Force Diplomacy.
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Olbia and Syrakousai were mine in the round finish
But... Why did I take it before the end?
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~Jirisys (All Hail Hellenon!:clown:)
Finally learned how to take screenshots with my system! :D (-ne switch on the shortcut).
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The Koinon Hellenon as of 241 BC. I recently had to intervene in Asia Minor to try to contain the Seleukids. Originally the plan was to use the Macedons for that, once I kicked them out of greece, but they've stubbornly refused to attack each other. Instead their provinces will serve as a beachhead for my conquest, and Macedon will have to try and contend with the Getai instead... :book:
All factions I made protectorates lost their aggressivness, if it's the same for AI factions I don't know, but it seems so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Africanus
Yes, I tried that earlier and it worked. Unfortunately, it didn't work with Gergovia. It's too late now as I've decided to keep Gergovia and have started building infrastructure. I plan on soon relieving the Sweboz of one of their settlements in retaliation for their constant attacks on me, so I'll try giving it to the Aedui once again.Quote:
Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius
The KH are protectorates of the Ptolemaoi no more as the two factions are now at war, so I'll get to see if the aggressiveness of the KH changes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahl
You're right, it's not a guaranteed item of exchange.Quote:
Originally Posted by Africanus
Have you considered giving the ex-Sweboz settlement to the Casse? Danger of giving it to the Aedui is the Arverni or Sweboz will just take it off them. Give it to someone else and you change the dynamic.
Bodmelqart crosses the Alps
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Spring 212BCE
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Summer 212BCE
Casualties:
Carthaginian ~850
Roman ~9000
First battle was at the river crossing north of Massalia. My army, fresh from the barracks, was besieging Massalia from the north, standing on the bridge, while an army of 3000 Romans attacked me from the north. At the same time, the 1000 Romans in Massalia sallied. I put my hoplites in a semi-circle around my side of the bridge while my Spanish and Garamantine troops crossed a ford a little to the east with my elephants. In no time at all I had 3000 Romans trapped on a bridge far too small for that number of troops with Elephants rampaging through the ranks. When my cavalry destroyed the reinforcements from Massalia, the men on the bridge were overwhelmed with panic and were all slaughtered while trying to escape.
The second battle was for a hill-top in the middle of the Alps. 2000 Romans had occupied it and it took the combined efforts of my heavy infantry and elephants to route them. What remained of the elephants from the previous battle fell here.
The third battle was on a slope going down the Alps on the Roman side. An army 3000 strong attempted to stop my advance, but they chose a very poor position, fighting an uphill battle against my forces. Sadly, they managed to hide a troop in the woods nearby, which managed to encircle my elite Africans, killing half of them before my cavalry could come to the rescue.
In all, I estimate I destroyed half the Roman armed forces in a single season. Time to destroy the other half!
NOTE: Elephants are totally not worth their price. It's that I'm swimming in cash, but if you are in want of money, spend it on something else.
Also, having an elite army you must be careful not to become overconfident and charging in without assuming a proper tactical formation or you will lose a needlessly high amount of your soldiers.
EDIT: Meanwhile, in Sicilia, the Romans besiege and assault Messena with a 3000 strong army (literally half of them Triarii). My 2500 strong garrisson (mostly regular hoplites) resists the assault, but takes 2300 casualties, resulting the biggest carnage I've ever seen.
Hmmm, I like that line of thinking!Quote:
Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius
I ended up taking Aventicos and Valdideno, and the Audei this time were grateful for my gifts. They've managed to hold off the Sweboz for now but if I have to go at it again I'm definitely going to try to get the Casse into play. They've yet to attempt to get off the island.
Meanwhile, the KH have been much more aggressive since losing their protectorate status. They took Rhodes off the Makes, killing the last family member and destroying the faction while turning Crete rebel. They then took Crete and also Halikarnassos off the Ptoly's but lost Hali back. They still haven't come after me though.
The two remaining protectorates - Epiros and the Luso's - have still done absolutely nothing but wander around their holdings. I've got my two legions in Iberia and am getting prepared to strike. I also think I'm going to take Lepki off the QH to see if that provokes the Ptoly's to break their alliance with me and open another front. They're running roughshod over the rest of the world, splitting the once mighty Baktrian empire in two.
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@Folgore, nice series of battles. I would like to see some minimaps also. Would be nice to see what the world looks like and what areas you and the romans control.
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The Republic of Qart Hadasht, ca. 211 BCE
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The Romans control the same area as in 219, being at peace with Macedonia and in an alliance with both the Arverni and Aedui. I am still at war with Rome and Egypt, but also with the Arverni, though only the Romans are fighting against me at the moment. My great army under Bodmelqart has suffered significant losses, as has my Sicilian garrison, which I planned to use against southern Italy, so I am now raising new legions to occupy Italy.
The rest of the world has changed a great deal in the last eight years though. The Casse have conquered the British isles, the Macedonians (and their client the Getai) are now fighting against Pontos and moving east into Asia minor. Hayasdan suddenly started an expedition into the steppes and now occupy the Sarmatian homeland. The Seleucid and Bactrian empires (allies) are reduced to one city each, both under siege at the moment, so I do not think they will last until the end of the year.
I don't think I have ever seen parthia do very well in any of my games. Casse invading mainland, AS world dominance and even massive naval invasions against me. But never seen Parthia do ANYTHING. Very nice/interesting world map you got there. Also interesting to see you didn't take any of your southern african areas. Was that a barcid roleplay or do you just not consider them valuable enough?
Yeah, its the best part of a new campaign, not knowing how things will change. Out of three ongoing campaigns only 1 has the Pahlava doing well, in which I am Pontos. But 2 of those games saw the Seleukids take Salamis off of Ptolies, though in the Pontos game the Ptolies took it back and now contorl the sea with huge poliremes which are a scary nightmare. I landed one invasion, took Salamis, they landed a response invasion that actually managed to take the city off of me, and now my second invasion, carefully ferried over to avoid the poliremes, has taken the city again.
Oh, i always love to see two of my favorite factions rising on their path to glory: mighty Carthage on the west and mighty Pahlava on the east!Quote:
Originally Posted by Folgore
Koinon Hellenon, 256 BCE
Well, it's the first time I give the KH an honest try, and I have to say I... like it. It's keeping my interest for longer than any other non-Celtic faction has ever since I saw the light and accepted this Truth as The Truth of True Truths: der Keltoi über alles.
Anyway, this is the current map:
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The way I played this was that I at first conquered Crete with the army stationed there and sent my fleet to get the army on Rhodos to the main land. This last process proved difficult and dangerous, as I had to face both a Seleukid and a Makedonian fleet on the way there. The first one I defeated, but after a tight battle against the latter, my navy lost and were forced to flee, almost so far as to the African coast. Having done that I had to defeat the same Seleukid fleet that had come back, and I managed to outmanoeuvre the Makedonian one to finally get my men to shore. With that success, the Makedonian fleet was sent elsewhere, so when my army on Crete had successfully taken the island, I could quickly ship it back to the mainland safely, leaving only the FL to keep the peace. I disbanded the remainder of the navy after awarding the admiral with medals for honour, bravery and valour.
Meanwhile the Makedonian army under Antigonos Gonatas had moved up north to deal with Pyrrhos, and I don't know if he defeated him or if Pyrrhos just went somewhere else, but the fact of the matter is that if Pyrrhos ever took Pella, he didn't hold it for long. With my reinforcements, Antigonos together with his son once again marched south and besieged Athenai. As a response, I took my army standing north of Sparta and besieged Korinthos.
The following turn the garrison, aided by a small, captain-led relief force, attempted to sally against my army, but they were soundly beaten back behind the walls. However, when Antigonos Gonatas and his son then came, they greatly outnumbered my poor, tired Greeks, who were forced to abandon the siege and head back to safety of the Spartan walls. Just before they got there, the Makedonian army caught up with them and forced a fight. After a long and bloody battle, both Antigonos and his son lay dead on the ground, joined by the Hellenic league's general, Akrotatos Agiados Lakedaimonios. Both armies were practically destroyed, and since the Hellenic league had none left, and the Makedonians had the Epeirotes in the north to worry about, a peace treaty was signed, whereby the Hellenic league had to pay a large sum of money at the spot, and then pay a seasonal tribute for the next three years. They also had to end the short alliance they had made with the Epeirotes.
Since then the Hellenic city-states have focused on economic expansion and smaller scale military reforms (read: building mics - you tell me how to say that in-character). The only outbreak of war since those early douses was when Halikarnassos revolted against the Seleukid occupational force, and sought the protection of the Hellenic league. The protection was given, and a Spartiates named Ailianos Imbrios, recently adopted by then-Hegemon Areus Agiados Lakedaimonios, was sent to organize their defence. However, the Seleukids made little attempts to retake the city, and after blockading some Hellenic ports agreed to sign a white peace.
Now, in 256 BCE, Ailianos Imbrios, having won the Olympics and great fame about himself, is the new Hegemon, and an alliance has been formed with the Galatians, who had helped the people of Halikarnassos to throw out the Seleukids. (A unit of Enoci Curoas was, for some reason, amongst the garrison when I found it under my control.) Epeiros has taken control over all but the northern-most part of Illyria but lost Taras to the SPQR, and Makedonia has secured their starting positions and expanded in Mikra Asia. Pontos hasn't done anything but raise a larger army, and the same can be said about the Hayasdan. The AS are going on better than they usually do in my games, and the rest have done quite like the usually do and are not necessary to report for my games. You can just check the map above if you're interested.
how the hell did you lose athens? I've held that city against a retarded amount of Brown death.
Just fight them in the streets like Churchill said.
Hoplites cannot be defeated in streets!
its like 300.
Who lost Athens? I ask, because I sure didn't. Antigonos simply ended the siege on Athens when he came to relieve Korinthos. If you're going by the picture I posted, it's kind of hard to see what cities I have, I admit. :sweatdrop:
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The Republic of Qart Hadasht, Autumn 207 BCE
After vanquishing no less than 5 Roman legions [full stacks], the great Carthaginian General Bodmelqart [my virtual Hannibal] was recalled to Qart Hadasht, to retrain the troops under his command and to reengage the Romans in southern Italy, together with the rest of our forces. Here, one of our smaller armies was besieging Taras, while two Roman legions again attempted to take control of Messana. In the Spring of 207 BCE, Bodmelqart, having retrained his forces (and replaced his Garamantine infantry with Elite Africans), landed in Sicilia, hoping to relieve the siege of Messana. Unfortunately, the Romans assaulted this city before he could reach it, but, the city's forces held out against the numerically superior enemy, as it had done not 4 years earlier, under the command of General Milkherem Oea. In the summer then, Bodmelqart advanced across the straight into Italy where he destroyed the other Roman legion in addition to the garrison of Rhegion, which city he promptly occupied. At this same time the city of Taras was taken with heavy losses to our secondary Italian army. In the autumn Bodmelqart advanced due north. Here, the Romans had raised two new legions, one composed of mercenary troops and one legion composed of Rome's veteran soldiers [6 units of Triarii, 6 units of Principes, 5 units of Pedites Extraorinarii and 5 units of Hastati].
While Bodmelqart expected these legions to attack, he judged the veteran legion to be too far away to pose any threat this season. Indeed, the mercenary legion attacked our forces quickly, but, being mercenaries, the were routed easily without too many losses on our side. However, at the end of autumn, suddenly the veteran legion showed up. At first, Bodmelqart retreated a great distance back to the south, but the Romans were persistant. Judging the terrain, a wooded hillside, to be in our favour, Bodmelqart drew up his battle line, anchored on the left flank by a large rock formation. Here, he put the Sacred Band and the elite Liby-Phoenicians in the front, followed by our hoplite and finally our Spanish men. The right flank was guarded by our African spearmen and Elite Africans. The citizen cavalry was hidden in the woods nearby and Bodmelqart stayed just behind his troops, so that he might encourage them, should their strength waver in the face of such an enemy force.
Although the battlefield was generally level, the Romans had to climb the hillside to get there. As such, they were already tired when the lines met. After a very lengthy engagement, the Roman troops now all being tired, the signal was given to attack. At once, our Spanish and African infantry joined the battle in addition to the horsemen, coming out of the woods from behind the enemy. This sudden attack paniced the Romans and almost at once their forces broke. With a loss of only 150 Carthaginian men, 3000 Romans were slain. Where all the world expected our forces to suffer great casualties at the might of the Roman military, if even victorious, our great general Bodmelqart won Carthage's greatest victory!
Surely, this time next year, Bodmelqart would stand victorious before the walls of the very city of Rome itself. Surely, such a great and noble spirit would conquer the whole of Italy for our great Republic, surely...
Wait... What...?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
[Sadly, Bodmelqart, aged 31, left no children to avenge his death. He does have a younger brother, but he has never yet seen battle. Command of his army has been taken over by the hero of Messana, Milkherem Oea. Had he lived, Bodmelqart would surely have been made Sophet one day. Truely, the Republic has lost its greatest leader today.]
[Against my expectations, both the Seleucids and Bactrians have managed to postpone their inevitable deaths by at least four years now, despite their only remaining cities having been under siege practically contiuously!]
Duuuuude I'd reload that and try again. There's no way to let such a great general go unless it's gloriously in battle.
LOOOOOL that sucks so ****** much. thats sooooooo brutal..
shucks.... :(
Send his son to the war. sack, burn and destroy every city in italy, and then besiege rome till they surrender, and sack it to hell, leaving nothing, and sack it ceremoniously every year for their cowardly treachery.
That's what Caesar said. :yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Biowulf
My Roman empire in 190BC, recently got my legionaries (modded the script a bit, was too impatient to wait till 172 :juggle2: ). Before Marian reforms I didn't have any of Gaul and Qart-Hadast still had northern Africa. Legionaries did what they are supposed and here are the results:
My faction leader, conquered pretty much all Greece, burned Kart-Hadast and is now on his way to conquer gaul. He has some really nice traits like Master of Assassins, Spy Master, Reconnaissance Specialist, Exterminator and Despoiler. Obviously he has killed quite a bunch of people on his way but war, war never changes :smash:
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About the game, I heavily funded Pahlava, Pontos, Saba and Baktria with add_money to avoid the goddamn yellow fever. Pahlava is quite a beast, Pontus is giving me nice challenge with several full stacks. Overall this is probably one of my best Romani campaigns ever.
Nah, I don't reload. House rule number 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biowulf
Here are some tactical considerations the Arverni recently learned in my game:
1 - Do not raise an entire army consisting only of levy spearmen.
2 - Do not accept battle with said army against a battle-hardened legion of Carthaginian veterans, no matter if you do outnumber them by a thousand men.
3 - Do not allow the enemy to take the high ground in said battle.
4 - Do not break formation, turning the battle-line into a battle-blob when assaulting the enemy on said highground.
5 - Do not run in panic when javelins start raining down on said battle-blob.
Result; 3200 Arverni dead, 8 Carthaginians dead.
Fallout reference!Quote:
Originally Posted by Paganist
Uhm anyway, that's a great Family member if ever I saw one.
The cake is a lie too... So is the Pip-boyQuote:
Originally Posted by Arthur, king of the Britons
Great, the king is back :crown:
Well, that I would have never expected... only 8? If I had fought that it would have CTDd after
~Jirisys (Not even last night's storm could wake you up:clown:)
lol i'd have hit the checkmark as soon as the screen came up, i wouldnt reload, but itd allow for maximum ctd'ing >:P its not cheating its forgetting game engine flaws
you know guys, I understand mass-murder and apocalyptic endings for enemy factions ithe key to EB, but it is time we all got beyond thunderdome....Quote:
Originally Posted by Folgore
Mass Murder?! This is..................................(wait for it)
EB
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Originally Posted by jirisys
I think I'll post an update on my Empire when I'm done with mylittlehuge Civil War (Ca 6 years in-game, hopefully not as long IRL)
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After the dispicable death of Bodmelqart, Milkherem Oea took control of the first army, then stationed north of Rhegion. Being in bad shape, it was decided that the army should retire to Qart Hadasht for a second time in order to receive reinforcements. The troops supplied by our loyal tyrant in Syracuse would then move into Rhegion to protect it from the Romans for the following year.
Meanwhile, in southern Gaul, the Arverni have become a major nuisance. Dispite the Second army being stationed here [under command of Gisgo, Sophet since 205BCE], they continue to wander into our territory, laying waste to our countryside and besieging our cities. Worse yet, when confronted by our army in battle, they throw their javelins at us and run away, never facing us directly in battle. The cowards. Being so far away from our glorious capital, Gisgo has had to replace his Africans by Illergetian soldiers and Gauls, in order that reinforcements can be found immediately. These local soldiers are adequate against the untrained masses the Arverni send at us, but we should find ourselves lucky the Romans are too busy in Italy.
Having returned to Italy with fresh troops, Milkherem Oea quickly captures Capua and Arpi, defeating two large Roman legions with minimal losses to our army. At the same time, we land a fresh light army [half stack] in Northern Italy, which succeeds in taking Arretium. The Romans are not yet defeated however, and Milkherem turns his attention to the city of Rome itself, besieging it. This infuriates the northern allies of Rome and they attack our besieging army a total of three times, causing heavy losses to our ranks. Finally [in 203BCE] we are forced to retreat, going back to Qart Hadasht in order to reinforce the army yet again.
In Gaul, Gisgo defeats two large Arverni armies. The first, consisting entirely of novice troops without any missile or cavalry support, charges our army up a hill, resulting in a magnificent slaughter in which scarsely a dozen of our troops are fallen. The second army attacks us at a river ford. While our Illergetian soldiers defend the river back against the enemy horde, our Gallic swordsmen cross the river downstream, outflanking the enemy. Miraculously, the enemy king manages to escape, running through our ranks as if his horse was the legendary Pegasus. His men are not so lucky.
While at sea, the transports carrying the First Army run into the Egyptian fleet, which has been terrorising our African coast for more than 10 years. Its movements are erratic and the money lost from overseas trade is easily repaid from our vast treasury, so the senate decided against forming our own battlefleet. What a mistake! The 300 ships strong Egyptian fleet utterly scatters our transports and it takes the better part of a year for our entire army to return to Qart Hadast. [There are actually two fleets, one consisting of 5 units of Triereis and Pentereis, the other consisting of one unit of Nees Megistai. After this incident, I decided to raise my own battlefleet, however, I am hesistant to spend a lot of money on it and as a result it has been defeated twice by the Egyptian fleet. Although victorious, the Egyptian fleet has suffered serious losses and I am confident I will win the next engagement.]
With the army being retrained, the Romans besiege Capua, Arpi and Arretium and, although their assaults are defeated, our garrison forces [consisting mostly of mercenaries] take heavy losses.
Having finally returned to Italy in 201 BCE, Milkherem Oea engages the army besieging Capua and causes them to flee to Rome. After a lengthy pursuit he catches up to the fleeing forces and engages them outside of the city. Seeing their brothers in trouble, the garrison of Rome joins the battle and is utterly crushed. With no forces left to defend the city, Milkherem and his army walk in unopposed. The people who waged war against us so relentlessly for the past thirty years are massacred, the survivors sold into slavery, their temples looted and burned to the ground. Death to the Romans!
[And, because this is a special occasion, you get a deluxe map.]
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The Republic of Qart Hadasht, Summer 201 BCE
[Notice that hardly anything has happened in the past six years, apart from the conquest of southern Italy. Amazingly, the Seleucids are still hanging on, as are the Bactrians. They even outlasted Pontos, which was destroyed easily by Makedonia. Makedonia is pretty much the only faction that is moving. They subdued the Getai about 10 years into the game, making them their protectorate, then they did the same to the Sweboz 30 years later. They made the Hay a protectorate too, but they decided that didn't like that and declared war a year later. Meanwhile, Pahlava is messing around with what's left of Arche Seleuceia and Bactria, while the Ptolemaioi have dumped 5 full stacks in Cyrenaica, but they refuse to actually attack me. The Romani and Arverni are a huge pain, attacking me every single turn. Without Rome though, I hope that will stop.]
133 B.C.
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Still taking advantage of AI passiveness to go at a slow pace. The QH have been reduced to only Tuat. I took Garama and used FD to gift it to the Saba.
My plan of taking Lepki to provoke the Ptolamaoi worked, and I've decided to go after the soft underbelly of their mighty empire. After taking Kyrene they sent one stack after another to try and recover it to no avail. I then brought my African legion over to take Augila and then next Ammonion, which I also gave to the Saba. Leaving Ammonion I was attacked by a full stack and narrowly escaped with a win. Easily the toughest battle of my campaign. I'm currently beseiging Paraitonion, and here come the stacks. :dizzy2:
I still haven't bothered with the Luso's yet. Just when I was going to start war with them, I got lucky and Arse went rebel, so I quickly grabbed it up while avoiding opening another front. They still haven't made any moves, anywhere, since becoming a protectorate so I'll just let them be for awhile.
Things have also been quiet to the north. I'm currently only at war with the Averni and they'll occasionally send a stack my way, but I've had little trouble defeating them. Taking QS's advice, I gifted a couple of Gallic settlements to the Casse, but they haven't done much of anything either. They took one pitiful run at the Sweboz, beseiging a settlement with one unit and were easily repelled.
The Aedui are still hanging on. They did eventually lose back the settlements I gifted them earlier to the Sweboz, but they've been successful at defending Vindobona and Patavium. After 140+ years of peace, they currently have two pitiful stacks menacing Bononia. I hope they don't go suicidal now and decide to attack me.
The KH have been on the move, wiping out Epiros rather quickly after they dropped their protectorate status. However, the Ptoly's have just started to encroach on their holdings, taking Byzantimum and Pella.
Yuck, ugly yellow death
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The Republic of Qart Hadasht, Spring 192 BCE
NEWS OF THE WORLD 201-192 BCE
201: Pacification of Northern Italy. With Rome out of the way, the mighty armies of Carthage meet no further organised resistance and the remaining cities loyal to the Roman remnant are being besieged. Retraining the old army. The scattered units of the old army, which conquered Iberia are collected and shipped to Carthage for retraining.
200: Makedonian conquest of Hayasdan. Having rejected the Makedonian offer of becoming a protectorate, Hayasdan is facing increasingly tough Macedonian attacks. At the height of their advance, the Makedonians hold Hayasdan's Black Sea coast and most of the Caucasus. Training of the African Army. The Carthaginian Senate aproves the raising of an African army, armed in Greek style with a mighty phalanx and heavy cavalry. With the pacification of Italy, Carthage turns its attention to Egypt.
199: End of the Arabian War. Ptolemy defeats the Saba in several large-scale engagements, effectively putting an end to the war that has been raging on Egypt's right flank for the past 5 years. Meanwhile, Saba turns its attention to the other side of Arabia and captures Gerrha. March of the Armies. The Carthaginians send their armies away, the African army to Kyrenaica to defeat the armies of Ptolemy stationed there, the retrained old army to Northern Iberia to subdue the remaining independent tribes.
198: Revolt in Makedonia. Several of Makedonia's northern settlements revolt simultaneously and its Alpine territory joins the Aedui, forcing a war between these two factions. Parthia goes north. In the same year, both the Seleucid and Bactrian 'empires' fall to the Parthians. Not too keen on peace, they declare war on the Saka immediately and begin their advance north.
197: The armies arrive. The Carthaginian old army travels to Iberia, crushing a few minor revolts and renewing old alliances. The African Army arrives in Ptolemaic Africa, marking the start of the Desert Campaign, a tiresome war of attrition in which neither side are able to claim victory. Parthia goes south. Not content with war on just one front, the Parthians declare war on Saba and invade Arabia.
196: Makedonia joins the war. Makedonia declares war on Ptolemaic Egypt, easily crushing the weak garrisons of southern Asia Minor. Having to devide their forces here, they lose the Caucasian territory they conquered here earlier, but manage to keep on advancing to the east. The siege of Mediolanium. Now in complete control of Italy, Milkherem Oea, Carthaginian General declares war on the Aedui after failing to aquire Alpine Gaul through diplomatic means. A lenghty siege begins.
195: Height of the Desert Campaign. As many as 5 Egyptian armies wander the desert between the Nile and Kyrenaica. Whenever engaged by the African Army of Carthage, the Egyptian armies take position on top of a sand dune and turn it into a fortress. Heavy losses are incurred as various inconclusive battles are fought. The Aedui attack. A Massive barbarian army appears out of nowhere, apparently having crossed the Alps and attacks Milkherem Oea's army at Mediolanium. The battle is won, but victory relied entirely upon the African Elephants, accounting for over 30% of the enemy casualties. Sufficient men escape back to the city to dissuade the general from attempting an assault.
194: Iberia Conquered. The old army succeeds in taking the capital city of the last independent Iberian tribe. Carthage now controls the whole of Iberia. Mediolanium Conquered. Their armies defeated, the Aedui give up their city after food stores ran out.
193: Sacking of Gergovia. Sophet Gisgo attempts to put an end to Arverni attacks by sacking their captial. The burnt remains are left to the enemy without contest in order to keep the weak Arverni between Carthaginian Gaul and the Aedui as a buffer-zone.
192: Success in Africa. With Egypts Armies now rushing into Syria to halt the Makedonian advance, now at the gates of Antioch, the African Army succeeds in taking Augila. Raising of the Second African Army. Too many Egyptian armies still wander the desert to leave Augila for more than a year, as such, a second African Army is being raised to relieve the first and to carry on the attack into the Egyptian heartland.
Commentaries
As the weak nations are conquered, the world begins to be devided among the two great alliances. In the west, the Carthaginian-Makedonian alliance (including the Makedonian protectorates the Sweboz and the Getai) and in the east the Ptolemaioi-Parthian alliance (including Parthian protectorate Hayasdan). As the Makedonians hammer away at Parthia's allies and the Makedonian-Parthian border becomes longer and longer, so increases the chances of war between the greatest powers of the world. For the time being though, Parthia has its hands full with Saka and Saba, while Makedonia and Carthage are busy with Egypt. To prevent hostilities between Carthage and Makedonia, both sides have agreed to leave the minor Celto-Roman alliance in one piece as buffer states. Although nominally part of the Celto-Roman alliance, the Casse seem quite content staying on their islands.
A quick, objective and honest overview of the political powers in Europe:
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Folgore - You have an amazing campaign. I have enjoyed every post about it so far. :2thumbsup:
Cool thanks, glad to hear that! :)
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you evidently missed my joke :clown:
Who am I? ... it's 228 BC, and I'm using ALEX.exe
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I bet it won't be hard to know
Arche Seleukia, yep... pretty easy...
Why does Makedonia allways die ?
Because Epeiros should be Pergamon. Remove them from the equation and it's a much more even contest between Makedonia and Koinon Hellenon.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Blacksmith
Should be XD
Let Pyrrhos have his moment of glory, at the time he was king of Macedon :P
Arche Seleukeia, 228 BC, I like to go slow, very slow.
The previous events:
The makedones were faring quite well, they managed to kick out the KH from Greece, and then they took the province north of Pella, and besieged Byzantium.
Yet they got too ambitious and attacked me with their armies of Mytiline my province of Pergamon (filthy traitors!!!!).
Then, Epeiros invaded and managed to take Pella (since the makedonian armies suffered great losses in Byzantium), and then easily took the settlement up north Pella.
Then KH did something amazing and took their remaining armies @ Rhodos and actually took back Sparte! Never saw that!
With the mines, Epeiros got too powerfull and soon took also Thessaly (but not for long since they lost it), debilitating the makedones further, and the KH took the opportunity to take Korinth and then Athens.
Then I had to deal with invasions from the Parthians, Ptolemies, and Baktrians, which were dealt successfully although many brave persian archer spearmen died, so I completely forgot about the war between the makedones, epeiros and kh, last I saw, the KH were besieging the province next to Athens, last settlement of the once proud Makedonian empire.
On other fronts...
I managed to get an alliance with the Saka, who went to war with Parthia but it's been a stalemate ever since.
The Sauromatae managed to take a few provinces but have stalled and even got their cities besieged by Hayasdan and the Getai.
The baktrians tried to take India but failed miserably, and have attempted to take my eastern cities ever since.
The aedui and arverni went to war early and the romani took this opportunity to eat their territories, and now they're on the brink of destruction.
The sweboz remained a bit passive but have expanded nicely.
The casse have expanded too slowly ( I plan to launch an invasion and surprise them eventually!)
The karthadast remained passive for most of the time but now they launched a surprise attack on the romans and are now besieging their southern cities with the aid of Epeiros.
@Folgore; Epic posts man keep it up. Wont mind an AAR :D
It's 255BC, who am I (it's not that hard)?
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v...o/255BCmap.jpg
You're Eperios. You should actually play a game as regular Eperios to see how fun they are in their original position.
Obviously I'm Epeiros, but not actually Epeiros. Who am I playing them as?Quote:
Originally Posted by Unintended BM
There's nothing about unaltered Epeiros that appeals to me, to be honest. It's a historical "what if" that just doesn't do anything for me.
Syracuse I think
Indeed I am, not as easy to spot as it could be with that blocky image. How's your Epeiros-as-Syracuse game going?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanit
going nowhere right now, but final exams are on friday, then I can game!
I've see a lot of posters who seem to think that Epeiros became irrelevant after Pyrrhos death, but I think they don't realize the Pyrrhos' son, Alexandros II of Epeiros, also conquered Makedonia a decade after EB's starting period. Granted, he was eventually beaten back, but it shows that Epeiros was still a force to be reckoned with, at least until Alexandros' death.Quote:
Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius
The whole game is a histroical what-if.
Heh, too true. 'What if there was no diplomacy in the world and there were 0 survivors on the losing side after a major battle.'Quote:
Originally Posted by Unintended BM
no diplomacy = let's disslove the UN! XD
BTW, nice Kart-Hadast Empire
Ditto, Jeb!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cute Wolf
Now, stop quoting laws, we carry weapons!
It is, but some are more interesting (to me) than others. In any case, I'm more interested in historical simulation than alt-history projection.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unintended BM
I probably play exactly opposite to you.~DQuote:
Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius
I was just curious, how do you keep a campaign like Kyrene or Syrakousai fun if it's a historical simulation. I mean how can you keep it interesting if you sit around building up, maybe take some nearby towns and have to beat back fullstack after fullstack without progressing. I guess roleplaying around a bit, but that also stays limited to your fantasy. Don't you miss the royal armies? Great campaigns with epic battles against exotic foes or developing a character into an epic conqueror while managing a vast empire?
~Fluvius
There aren't a lot of repeated full-stack battles, because I don't play on VH campaign difficulty, only M which moderates things some. But I find once you get beyond a half-dozen settlements or so, it starts to feel more like a game of managing town, and less one of fighting interesting battles. Not only that, if you allow the AI to consolidate into a handful of mega-factions (as in the survivors who've eaten up those who didn't make it), then it becomes a tedious affair of dealing with repeated attempts to swallow you up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus
The fun for me comes with defending smaller factions and preserving a balance of power where things go according to where I choose to apply pressure. It comes from preventing Hayasdan becoming the ruler of the steppe, or Makedonia expanding all the way to Germany, or Rome conquering all of Gaul by 250BC. Of sheperding Parthia to become a great power a century after the start of the game, rather than being snuffed out 10 years in by the Seleukids and Baktria.
I keep it fun by intervening all over the place to suit my long-term goals for the game. Siding with the underdog in this war here. Using agents to make two factions fight each other, or slow expansion there. Giving money to a faction to aid their fight against their aggressor. A great campaign for me is one where I resist the ease of the blitzkrieg and move slowly, generally one settlement per war, acting either on the defensive or with justification for why I'm taking it. Often gifting any others I might have taken to other factions to sow the seeds of future conflict and keep things chaotic.
There's also a balance between good battles, and so many that fighting them becomes a chore. Three major battles in one turn, then peace for ten or so is cool. Three major battles every single turn, boring for me.
I don't shape single characters into epic conquerors; I rotate my generals to prevent any one becoming too powerful (and a threat to the Faction Leader who stays in the capital to govern). Partly because I don't like inactive FMs languishing around doing nothing, and partly because I find the Warmonger trait really annoying when there are long stretches of peace.
I agree that fighting about three major battles per turn is boring, specially when it's your most veteran army commanded by your best general fighting a bunch of levies lead by a mere captain. Things get interesting when the enemy sends his elite stacks and you only have a 'low/medium' quality army.
In my Seleukid campaign I just recently captured Kyrene and proceeded to take the southern province (all good and well) but then I saw a full stack of Karthadastim with two GOLDEN chevroned Elephants, three silver chevroned elite african phalanx a couple of liby phoenician elites, and a few numidians and garamantines marching towards Kyrene (which I left defended by only a peltastai and two units of akontistai). My poor fellows died like flies :( didn't even killed all of the elephants.
My best defense there were two spies who managed to make the province revolt twice, and debilitated that stack. However, I had no chance to take Kyrene back since two full stacks showed up and one besieged my province south of Kyrene. I held the province with heavy losses... I was fighting a fullstack of 6 Sacred Band+ 6Elite African phalanx and a couple of other lower units, using mainly peltastai and a few pantodapoi phalangitai, and an almost depleted chariot. Yet my chariots won the day, thank god I had them there!
Meanwhile the other fullstack went north to take Kyrene back though... such a relief for the moment.
I intend to unleash hell against those treacherous Khartadastim!!
I don't know, I find all-elite armies just as tedious as all-levy ones. I'd just like even vaguely feasible armies recruited by the AI. Even more than that, I'd like them to just hold a line during a battle, none of the formation mods seem capable of that.
Well, Eb2's recruitment system will fix that first problem.
That is very welcome news indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tanit
Alright guys, I thought this thread was really cool and I just wanted to put up a little thing on my own campaign as Saba. I'm currently streaming it live on Justin.tv, and if you could please follow my channel (you have to make an account really quick first) it would be greatly appreciated.
Here's the link, couldn't post it before because or post count requirements to post a link. Here it is: http://www.justin.tv/bloodthirstycatfish and my youtube channel is https://www.youtube.com/user/BloodthirstyCatfish
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The Republic of Qart Hadasht, Spring 182 BCE
Commentarii de Bello Gallico
I mentioned earlier that Gigso in 193 sacked Gergovia in an attempt to stop to Gallic incursions into Carthaginian territory. Initially, this turned out to be very successful, with three peaceful years in which saw not a single Arverni on Carthaginian lands. Gisgo, Sophet and commander of the Second Army, stationed in southern Gaul, decides to use the relative peace to retire, being already 60 years of age. Abdeshmun Oea, son of Milkherem Oea [conquerer of Italy] and commander of the Old army in Iberia takes over command of the second army, while Gisgo returns to Carthage. The old army is shipped back to Carthage to retrain and recieve a new commander.
On the other side of the Alps, Milkherem Oea's first army, after having conquered Italy, is relieved by an Italian Garrison army, comprised mostly of Italian Hastati. The latter being sufficient for the defence of Italy, the first army is shipped to Carthage.
The Year of Death
In the spring of 190 starts the year of death. It starts with the death of the Carthaginian client king in Emporion, which city is thereafter immediately and mysteriously hit by an outbreak of the plague. Fortunately for Carthage, this plague helps cull any rebellious sentiments and the territory of Emporion is added to their vast empire. In the summer dies General Milkherem Oea [Hero of Messina, conquered of Italy, destroyer of Rome], followed swiftly by Sophet Gisgo [vanquisher of the Arverni]. Both die in Carthage, having recently retired from a life of war and conquest. The senate elects Milkherem's son, Adbeshmun Oea, as the new Sophet. Meanwhile, our Lusitana client king in Oxtraca also expires, sending the province into a brief period of anarchy. Peace is only restored when a new king, backed with Carthaginian money and an army of mercenary soldiers enters the city. In the winter of the same year, a transport fleet, carrying 600 Cretan archers for service in the second African army is sunk by an Egyptian fleet, there are no survivors.
Commentarii de Bello Gallico [2]
The year 190 also marks the end of the brief period of peace. Both the Arverni and the Romans attack the Carthaginian forces continuously in the following five years. Seemingly undeterred by the sacking of Gergovia, the Arverni now attack with armies comprised of nothing but levies. In 189, an army with 2500 slaves makes battle with the Carthaginian Second Army. Armed with nothing but sticks and stones and wearing nothing but a smelly blanket, these slaves are utterly crushed by Abdeshmun Oea and his forces. Only 7 Carthaginian soldiers lose their lives in this battle.
On the Roman side of the Alps the story is much the same. Being in control of only a small section of the Illyrian coast, the Romans can no longer raise the legions of Triarii that terrorised the Carthaginian advance into Italy. Instead, armies consisting of 3000 Illyrian levies are sent against the Italian garrison. Although the Illyrians are strong soldiers, they have the morale of infants and the second their Roman general is killed they run back to their mothers as fast as their legs can carry them. After sending four such armies, the Romans acknowledge the futility of trying to cross into Italy and stop sending armies.
In southern Gaul however, the Arverni continue to be a menace. In [yet another] attempt to stop the attacks, Adbeshmun Oea takes the Second Army deep into the center of Gaul in order to sack some of the cities there, straying into the territory of the Aedui. The Aedui however, are quite different from their Arverni brothers. While the Arverni have been exhausted by the many battles against the Carthaginians, the Aedui have [effectively] been at peace for the past 20 years. When Abdeshmun Oea approaches Bibracte in the autumn of 187 he is attacked by three Gallic armies in as many months. The level of organisation is uncharacteristic of Gauls, as more than 10 000 men, half of them Aedui and half of them Arverni, attack the second army. Although, against expectations, victorious in all engagements, Adbeshmun Oea suffers such heavy losses he is forced to abandon the Gallic expedition completely and return to Tolosa and Emporion to reinforce his army. The Gauls feast and drink to the memory of their fallen heroes, seeing the retreat of the Carthaginians as a great victory.
So much then, for the situation in Europa. Although the maps are no drop of ink different than those of 10 years ago, the past decade has seen great battles being fought, great heroes rise and fall and many, many good men being slain here.
On the War in Egypt
We saw earlier how the First African Army [under Xenophiles, brother of Bodmelqart [unjustly slain]] fought a difficult and inconclusive war in the desert south of Kyrene, culminating in the capture of the Oasis town of Augila. To relieve this army the Second African Army was raised and sent to africa [under Bisaltes] in 191. Meanwhile, the Old Army [from Iberia], had returned to Carthage and after having been reinforced to full strength, was also sent to Egypt [under Ahiram Arsinoe]. As these armies march through Egypt they meet remarkably little resistance. It seems most of the Egyptian armies are fighting the Makedonians in Syria. As the 2nd African Army and the Old Army take Paraitonion and Ammonion, the 1st African Army and the 1st Army are retrained. The 1st African Army is sent back to Egypt, while the 1st Army stays, as a reserve, near Carthage to see how the situation in Iberia develops [it is at this time some of the client kings die and the cities are sent into brief periods of anarchy]. As the situation in Iberia is diffused without help from the outside, the Senate decides to send the 1st Army into Egypt as well.
Thus, in 187, the Carthaginians have four armies marching and fighting their way though Egypt, while most of the Egyptian forces are in Syria. In 189 Paraitonion is taken, in 187 Ammonion and Memphis, in 186 Alexandria falls, followed in 185 by Diospolis Megale and Hibis. In 184 Pselkis is taken, after the largest battle against the Egyptian forces in which some 6000 Egyptians are killed or captured. In 5 short years, the Carthaginians managed to take the whole of Egypt. *
On the War at Sea
The Ptolemaic fleet has ever been a thorn in the side of the Carthaginians. From the very start of the war between the two nations, the Egyptians have been raiding the African coast and setting up blockades of Carthaginian harbours. At the start of the war, when Carthage was mainly interested in Iberia, the problem was small. Only some 10 000 mnai was lost in revenue per year, which the senate deemed an acceptable amount and consequently decided to ignore the problem altogether.
As the empire grew however, so grew the need to ship troops to Europe more and more frequently. When a fleet carrying the first army was scattered near the Silician coast by and Egyptian fleet [in 205 BCE], the Senate decided to build a strong fleet. Being mostly enterprising merchants however, they also decided it should not be too costly and limited the upkeep of the fleet at 10 000 mnai per year [2500 per turn]. Being equal in number, but far from equal in experience and ship-size, the Carthaginian fleet was utterly crushed when it engaged the Ptolemaic fleet in 202. Now confident that the previous battle had weakened the enemy fleet, the Senate commissioned a second fleet even smaller than the first one. It was scattered by the enemy fleet in 200, after which the ships that managed to flee the engagement were picked off by Illyrian pirates. Not a single ship made it back to Carthage.
Enraged by the financial cost of these battles, the senate finally created a real battle fleet, costing a very unprofitable sum of 20 000 mnai per year in upkeep alone, never mind the cost to build such a monster. In 193 the fleet was sent out to locate and destroy the enemy fleet, presumed weakened from the two previous battles. Little over a year later, the enemy fleet was discovered and battle was offered near the cost of Kreta. Outnumbering the Ptolemaic fleet two to one [and with battle odds 3 to 2 in my favour] it was a huge surprise when this fleet was also utterly crushed by the Egyptians.
[Three "crushing defeats" in a row, would you believe it!? Alright, I admit, the first two were largely my fault, but I really should have won that third battle...]
Having now concluded that destroying the Egyptian fleet was too expensive an undertaking, the Senate again decided to leave naval supremacy to the enemy, focusing instead on destroying the Egyptians on land. At about the same time however, it was noted by Carthaginian Generals that the archers of Kreta [long a part of their extensive empire] were archers of exceptional quality. A force of 600 of the [4 units] was raised to supplement the Second African Army, already on its way to Egypt. As Kreta is not too far from the African coast, an attempt was made in 190 to ferry the archers across only to be intercepted by an Egyptian fleet and utterly sunk. Not one to be deterred by minor setbacks, the governor of Kreta simply raised another force of 600 archers and sent them across in 189, after carefully checking that no Egyptian fleets were in range. But, Poseidon clearly favouring one side over another, the Egyptian fleet stormed across the mediterranean and again destroyed the archers and their transports.
As the African Armies were now left without missile troops altogether, the Senate of Carthage was again forced to intervene with a fleet. This time, no expenses would be spared, as the fate of the African invasion might rest on the safe arrival of the Cretan Archers. A fleet of 100 Quadriemes was raised, at the cost of 25 000 mnai per year. Finally, when the fleets of the two nations engaged for the fourth time in 187, the Carthaginian fleet was victorious.
But the Egyptians are a most cunning people at sea. As the Egyptian fleet retreated, the Carthaginians swiftly followed, along the African coast into the Red Sea canal. It was here that the Egyptians sprung their trap, while the Carthaginians pursued one fleet towards the Red Sea another fleet was sent into the canal from the other side. Attacked from both sides, the Carthaginian fleet managed to fight off the attack, but with heavy casualties, forcing them to retreat to the port of the recently captured province of the city of Memphis. Trapped here for more than a year, when the fleet tried to break through the Egyptian fleet into the mediterranean in 184 it was completely destroyed.
And so, after twenty years of fighting, after four battle-fleets, numerous transport fleets and 1200 Cretan soldiers dead, after hundreds of thousands of mnai, either lost through naval blockades or through the raising and keeping of fleets, the Egyptians still reign supreme at sea!
On the War in the East
Having already discussed the state of affairs in Europa and Africa, I feel it necessary to spend a few words on the developments in Asia. It would seem, from looking at the current map and that of 10 years ago, much has changed, but this is nothing more than an illusion.
The Makedonian advance into Syria is stagnating, Antioch having fallen in 190 and subsequently nothing having changed. Battles are still being fought here, but no one side can gain the upper hand. In the Caucasus the war is more dynamic. Constantly cities are changing hands and the Hayastan are holding on fanatically, much against the world's expectations.
In the far east, the Pahlava managed to destroy the Saka by killing the entire royal dynasty. It would seem they would quickly annex the north-eastern territories and turn their attention west, but in fact, they have been struggling continuously against revolts among the eastern populations. Their armies roam the mountainous land here all the time, moving from one village to the next. But when a settlement is conquered and the army moves on to the next settlement, it immediately revolts. There has not been a single time in the past 10 years where the Pahlavan empire had not some sort of rebellion on its hands.
Final Notes
The main contest in the next ten years will be the race between Makedonia and Carthage to see who can reach the Phoenician homeland. Although the Carthaginians have expanded rapidly in the past decade, they will have to secure their holdings in Egypt before they will be able to move on east. Makedonia might not have been able to move into Syria much in the past decade, but with the profitable nile no longer a part of the Egyptian empire, they will crumble sooner or later. Should Makedonia take control of Tyre before Carthage and should they be unwilling to give it up, a most destructive war will surely follow.
* In 182 BCE, I have the following armies in the field:
- First Army [Theodekles], Diospolis Megale, Egypt
- Second Army [Abdeshmun Oea], Souther Gaul
- Old Army [Ahiram Arsinoe], Pselkis, Egypt
- First African Army [Xenophiles],Alexandria, Egypt
- Second African Army [Bisaltes], Memphis. Egypt
- Italian Garrison Army [no commander], Northern Italy
Also, my apologies for this enormous post. I didn't think it would get this long...
Wow Foglore, that's awesome. I didn't read the entire thing, but it's really cool.
Awesome Foglore! I read the whole thing and loved it! Keep it up! :2thumbsup:
Also, I've realised that on campaign maps, nobody ever controls the center of the Arabian Peninsula or the Sahara. Is that just barren/not conquerable land?
There's no province there.Quote:
Originally Posted by blader1176
Well, this is a follow-up to my post from awhile back.
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20 years have passed and though I did get the Saba to agree to a peace, it was short-lived. They waited right until I got bogged down in a war against Baktria, and then attacked my Arabian possessions. This may only be able to end with the conquest of the entire peninsula.
But good God, does it take a long time to get armies around Arabia. The last couple years against the Baktrians have been a stalemate just because half of my armies were marching their way down the Arabian desert.
The Ptolemies stuck to their peace, but unfortunately lost all their holdings to the hungry Baktrians who thought they could steamroll over my eastern possessions. The Carthaginians are being no kinder to them now that the Ptolemies are a strictly African faction. Libya and Upper Egypt are gone, so now all they have are Nubia and Ethiopia. I don't know how long it will be before the Carthaginians also decide I'm easy prey, but thankfully Alexandria and Memphis are two of my most well-populated well-armed fortresses. If they attack, I may be able to hold them off indefinitely.
I realize that since I've taken Anatolia from the Ptolemies all those years ago, Getic and Thracian troops have been rarities in my armies. My armies are vastly composed of Greeks, Persians and Caucasians with the occasional helping of Arabian cavalry and Celtic mercenaries.
Also it's weird how peaceful Western Europe and the Steppe have become.
Italy is still a mess. It's a three-way struggle between the Aedui, the Greeks and the Carthaginians.
If I can ever manage having more than a year or two of peace, I'll re-shift my focus on Eburonum and those other western objective I need to claim to win the game.
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Originally Posted by blader1176
In game terms they are both part of the Eremos ("wilderness") province. And yes, they represent worthless and unconquerable desert areas. The capital province (Terhazza) cannot be reached without cheating, nor are you supposed to try as it used to store script markers.Quote:
Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius
@Folgore; Have a :balloon2:
Mighty Pahlava Blitz
Sadly i dont have any screenshots...
Its around summer 252 and Antichous Soter and Antichous Theos found out that some guy just conquered their empire all the way to Tarsos and Sidon... sadly they both died...
I have 2 Massive Mercenary Phalanx, Kaukasian Sparabara and Horse archer armies lead by Tiridates and a Dåhå called Damdamen with each 7-8 command stars
Sadly the troop building in Persia is taking forever eventhough it only took me a year capturing it...
The Ptomlys just found out that they would give it a shot. trying to drink the Arsacid Empire in large cups... and they have been soundly beaten 1 army vs 4-5 full stacks
Resulting
Parthia>Yellow death
Onwards to Jerusalem and fortify....
The Hasadyan are turtling
The Pontic Are braindead, so are The Baktrians
and The Saka has two settlements i REALLY want
As a Seleukid fan I have to nitpick that it's Antiochos (II) Theos, not Seleukos.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Blacksmith
What is Arsaces I up to (Arschak ê Arschkanig)?
Lol @ the reference.
What are the Baktrians and Saka? Allies? I guess the towns you really want are Marakanda and Alexandreia-Eschate?
~Fluvius
@Fluvius
I have both of those settlemets... as i said... this went VERY fast im missing the one above the starting position and Choas, the one above Makanda
Arschak ê Arschkanig is resting in Seleukia after captuing about 12 settlements...
i've Managed to keep both Saka and Baktia my allies... i think ill might post a picture later