Vote: ACIN
I've been up way too long reading this thread. Someone needs to hang for ruining my beautysleep.
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Vote: ACIN
I've been up way too long reading this thread. Someone needs to hang for ruining my beautysleep.
Wow I go to school and a soccer game and come home to see iv missed the bandwagon...
I think what everyone is missing is that why would Seamus put more commies in? Commies were last game, hes going to move forward. Dont get me wrong, I would love for their to be communists(their role in this kind of game fascinates me) but I just dont see Seamus repeating himself. Hes gonna go for something more original.
ACIN's case is... different and im not sure i really understand it wholly. Ill come back to it and I think the town should keep a close eye on his future actions. Might i suggest a scan of him tonight?
After saying that though, I dont think Earthlings done a great job defending himself in his posts. They seem filled with OMGUS and his postings are getting desperate. and I dont really believe him to be a pro-town role. soooo Vote: Earthling
[QUOTE=Craterus;2053374606]Since you asked so nicely...
You'll always be a question mark which will only serve as an unwanted distraction in later votes. And I hate (hate hate) that "I'm busy IRL so I don't care if I get lynched" gambit.[QUOTE]
Have you seen my contest? It's a big challenge for me.
I have already explained why I do not want to reveal his name yet.Quote:
Also, how many mafia names were revealed to you? If it was just one, I'd make it public. There's no reason not to capitalise on a mistake, even if it was an 'accident'.
Don't play the "I'm busy in RL" card when you have the most posts in the thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name
My quarter doesn't start until the 22nd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
Fairynuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarema
I've nothing to really say about Earthling (as the runaway vote leader at present) but if my luck follows me from other mafia games on different boards, my time in this life is rather short (and real world travel is beckoning). So I'll say this, AskthePizzaGuy and Renata are both criminals.
Wow, I come back to about 10 pages of posts to go through, resulting in two bandwagons. I deduce this from reading:
Bandwagon on Earthling is due to the word 'wobbly' and his spirited not-so-good/squirmy defense he threw up.
Bandwagon on ACIN is due to the vig hit that failed to happen, his 'knowledge' of something game-breaking and refusing to reveal it, and in a few isolated cases, choosing a 'suspicious' moniker for everyone to follow.
Personally, with the deadline so near I see no reason to tack on to either Earthling or ACIN. This early, both bandwagons have some legitimacy to them, so I can't the premise behind either. Instead, I'd like to cast something else I picked up on. Maybe it's common knowledge and I've missed it somewhere, but ULC's post 520 mentions this:
So, how on Earth do you know this?Quote:
Originally Posted by ULC
Vote: ULC.
Mafia familys start out with a don, a luca, and a made. This gives them three votes. I also believe last time the commies came in 3s too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Backwards Logic
Wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
What?
As in scum or just wannabe but soon to be so? Need more then your word here.:inquisitive:Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
Confirmed, but we didn't know each other from the beginning.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottishranger
Is this a detective read? Criminal can be Townie, Wise Guy, Made or Luca. So don't necessarily jump to conclusion on this. I really hope you aren't a detective that just revealed.Quote:
Originally Posted by BillMc
Not that you'd draw attention to this, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erebus
ACIN or Earthling? Which to choose, well I want you both dead (just to have less than 5 pages to read) :dizzy2: :laugh4:.
Earthling; the wobbly thing is a problem (esp. since you did say you were trying to contact the Reds yourself), and you seem to be getting desperate to stay alive. Somethings off with you here.
ACIN; You won't reveal the mafia person you know, but you revealed your whole team last night, bad, bad boy. Are you trying to get recruited into that mafia family?
Well I say lets get rid of you both if we can, make this a tie. I think that Earthling is up a few over you my friend ACIN so...
Vote: ACIN
OOC:
On more of a personal note, my boyfriend was downgraded to a regular room today from the ICU. He is not yet out of the woods but not as critical now (thank God!!) Thanks again to all that posted/sent well wishes. :bow:
It's in the rules, so go back and read them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Backwards Logic
@Diana, that is good news.
Does our dear Benevolent GH support the double-lynch mechanic?:grin2:
vote: Seon
Putting his name out there as someone who will require closer scrutiny as the game progresses, as should anyone who submits orders and then doesn't turn up; what were you doing instead, Seon?
Shrug. I am not the one who did not show up. Seamus sent me a PM CC'ed to all 4 of you saying that "Protection succeeded."
And he sent me one stating that myself and two of the others (all three of us as visible recipients) received credit for a successful action, meaning that you and the fifth person did not get that PM; now, I know that the other person sent their orders late and thus was unlikely to be counted, but you sent yours well in advance and even stated in the title for Seamus to "ignore prior orders".Quote:
Originally Posted by Seon
So I ask again, what were you doing that prevented you from showing up?
Vote: Earthling since I'm not one to leave a job unfinished.
Vote: Seon
All right, so we're going to lynch ACIN, and people who are unsure, haven't read, want a meaningless vote on a third party or something -here's the reason:
I protected slash and earn last night from what clearly looks like be a mafia sanctioned hit. (along with two other townies who of course are not going to be revealed by me here) Mafia wanted him dead for organizing town protection groups as he was being open about, instead we saved him.
About a dozen people should know I'm one of the ones responsible for protecting slash and earn before now. Of course, any number more could know from information leaks. I don't at all doubt some mafia are in the votes to kill me on purpose for being a townie who was trying to protect people, anyone could have known that last night. With Chaotix for instance we both mutually know that I declined to participate in his group to kill people and work their way up to mafia and instead said I'd be doing protection.
Whether I die or not, anybody out there who has heard a second hand claim I protected slash and earn specifically should take a look at the person who passed that along and what else they've done, you know the sort of things that would look bad when I flip townie.
And of course I'm a townie, not a communist, but nobody is likely to hear from any FBI anytime soon, whether you believe I'm already in contact with them or the communists or not (not on all counts, afaik). Of course given any time if detectives do scan me they'd find I'm a townie, or find whatever other people involved are, they might or might not have enough scans to use on many various people and I'm fine with that, not asking them for particular scans, detectives will work on their own for the town regardless.
I'm interested in slysnake's wounding, why is he wounded? In previous capos you were either dead or bruised a bit but otherwise unharmed, i've never heard of wounding before, we definitely need to look more into that.
And I say again, as I explained to pizza earlier, that I have no idea why that happened. My Sent item box does not contain any other orders except for the one I cancelled in order to join yours in order to gain protection credit. In the end, I got none and only ended up getting suspected because of it.
I already issued a complaint to Seamus about it.
I'm sure I've seen you vote already this round, which means that this vote is unlikely to count without first unvoting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erebus
It may be meaningless to you, but I stand by my vote regardless; why throw my vote in with something I don't agree with? I don't buy into the cases against you or ACIN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Earthling
You got no credit for it because you didn't turn up! Check the writeup and see for yourself!Quote:
Originally Posted by Seon
The write up shows 3 cars arriving and a fourth arrive "late" that would explain Secura's story of 3 people successfully putting in Orders and one person with late orders.
However, you didn't show up. And unless Seamus agrees to somehow being his fault this means you either:
a) Wrote your orders wrong or sent them to the wrong person.
b) Are lying through your teeth, which means you should hang (unlikely as why protect a High Profile target like ATPG and then not show up)
c) Are of a role that can't be part of protection parties, thus most likely guilty.
I'll remove my vote when some other cause then "obviously fishy" is shown.
Unvote: Earthling
Vote: Seon
Sorry, still rather new, not used to unvoting.
Boy I love coming back and seeing all my capo communications pasted in the thread.
:stare:
That's for you ACIN.
The PMs (at least from my skimming of them) are correct. I dropped because ACIN was the only one to CC me.
vote: earthling
If I not only had my actions get revealed, but all my communications, you certainly aren't going to hide who you were working with and live.
CR
Actually I agree Seon could is lying about his participation in Secura's group, what Seon is implying does not sound like the correct format nor how protection groups seem to receive results matching my own experience and Secura is making sense. That's a fine lynch too, I'm not against trying that, just need a lot of votes to get it to work.
unvote: ACIN
Vote: Seon
Ugh, whatever. I lied, it wasn't a mafia person. It is a third party role. He is all by himself with his role and I didn't want to ruin it for him. I only said mafia because I wanted the attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diana Abnoba
The Stranger is a third party role that is anti-town and I got confirmation of it from Subotan who got a PM from him asking if he was "the hub" that he needed to join up with for his role. The role is similar to the two lovers role that appeared in ATPG 2.
Have your free kill. Sorry Stranger, I done messed up. I should have kept my mouth shut about the mix up, but there will be other games.
That's impossible because I CC'ed the orders to 4 people. Seamus, ATPG, Secura, and somebody else. Secura already confirmed it herself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erebus
If the other person quoted my PM and said "sure, that's fine," and apparently STILL got a protection credit according to ATPG, there's absolutely no reason why my orders couldn't be counted.
As for the other points, there is absolutely no way for me to deny it right now. I am just a normal Joe townie who joined a protection racket set up by ATPG and somehow got this mess thrown at myself.
I'll wait till I hear from Seamus before I say anything more.
This reveal was pretty silly, you were behind by 10+ votes and tomorrows lynch targets was all but picked out (assuming he survived the night).
If Earthling is innocent, I was next on the chopping block. I am not an idiot. If I had not revealed I would have either been killed during Night or everyone would have asked for the reveal to prevent my lynch in day 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erebus
And what do I lose from revealing myself, Erebus? If I am shown to be not lying and if Secura relents back, everybody instantly knows that I am a townie. Only townies would band together in an protection racket set up by ATPG in order to gain protection credits to help other townies become Rogue Detectives or doctors. By accusing me, Secura already outed me and herself as a Joe townie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erebus
Unvote: Johhog; Vote: The_Stranger
This ('wagon) I'd like to see.
This was a cross-post. I was actually talking to ACIN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seon
Oh, man.
Stranger, you don't have the best of luck in roles of mafia, do you?...
Smart thing to do to verify what i have said is just to vig kill him.
The writeup only shows three cars, with the third having to speed up to cover the absence of a fourth car; the number of protectors is not specified, but the credit for the action only went to myself and two others, which suggests that only three people were present.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erebus
This is completely correct and isn't something I dispute; Seon did send orders to protect our target, well in advance of the rest of us. What I actually dispute is that he did not receive credit for the protection, but I'll wait for his clarification from Seamus before I push further; I'd like to know as soon as you do though, Seon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seon
Hardly; even if it's too late to overturn the vote against ACIN/Earthling now, we've got a darn good candidate for the following day phase and this means ACIN's information is out in the open, however metagame-y it's origins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erebus
unvote, vote: The Stranger
I am worried this will turn into a situation where people will switch their votes to Stranger, but it won't be enough and it will be all former Earthling voters which will put me in the lead.
My point is I was actually silently cheering ACIN resolve to take that secret to the grave. Granted he set himself up with the whole "I have a secret you don't know" post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Secura
You're right about the write up, I was thinking about the shooter mentioned in the write-up (that took out the bat) as the "first" in my head.
unvote, vote: The Stranger
I don't think it's necessarily too late at all to overturn any votes, especially with the people not voting.
We could go for ACIN's named bad guy which will eventually give a reveal and evidence towards ACIN's guilt status completely independently, though I agree with Secura's case that someone is unexplainedly missing from her protection group. Anyway, better than lynching me for protecting other townies and having to wait three to four days to follow up on real suspects. The votes today were decent for information of course but if we can get a lynch that succeeds for the town even better.
You should have said something. I said I didn't want to have the game play out like this and everyone kept replying and PMing me to just say it. my impression was that no one cared if someone was exposed first day due to a slip up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Erebus
I think I've made it clear I'm not particularly trying to lynch you either, only for a lack of alternatives, and would be behind a plurality Stranger vote should the evidence there be obviously true.Quote:
Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name
EDIT: nvmQuote:
Originally Posted by Earthling
Want to both switch our votes to Stranger in a symbolic gesture?Quote:
Originally Posted by Earthling
unvote; Vote: Stranger
unvote; Vote: Stranger Think it's too late though...
What is the tally?
unvote: abstain
vote: the stranger
I pity you Stranger, but a man has do what he has to do to survive in this world. Your journey - it ends today.
Or tommorrow. Or tonight. You'll be dead soon.
unvote: Seon
Vote: The Stranger
ACIN, you've contradicted yourself, self-voted, lied, and generally acted like a massive scumbag.
I see no reason to trust you on your accusation of The Stranger, which very well may just be you making up BS.
Vote: ACIN
Earthling 29
ACIN 19
The Stranger 5
Chaotix 4
As of Post 770
Current tally is...
Earthling: 30
ACIN: 19
Stranger: 7
I doubt we will get enough people for stranger this round.
7 Votes is right on stranger is correct.
Vote: ACIN
Bloody hell, I can't read all this tonight. :no:
vote: acin
Mostly because of the self-vote, which is manipulative, which I disapprove. Town players should never do it.
Also, if I remember correctly, acin self-voted in ATPG Mafia 2 where he was Scum.
No idea if Earthling deserve that many votes so early. The only case I've read (but I haven't read all the posts) was ATPG accusing him of using the word "wobbly" as a mean to contact communist players. Not even sure if this is serious. Anyway, my vote's on acin, he's the only player I have a valid reason to vote for, at this point.
Romanic can I impersonate you on Steam again?
[QUOTE=Romanic;2053374687Not even sure if this is serious.[/QUOTE]
It's obviously not serious at all. pizza knows that too, whatever he's pretending to be. I wouldn't mind a detective scanning me of course but they'd find I'm not communist, nothing but us townies here.
The very good reason not to kill me, if you missed it, is because I was with the townie group that protected slash and earn. That evidence could be guaranteed out should we all live, or a detective scans me, or any other simple thing involving not lynching for no reason here, or the real mafia will try to kill me tonight but I'm only putting myself at risk, the others go on no matter what happens to me.
The real question is who (scum/scum wannabes) wants me dead because of doing protection, and is not giving reasons/fake reasons here. That could be a lot of people, they didn't know my partners or necessarily that we were the ones on slash and earn, but could easily just want a townie going for protection gone as a wasted lynch.
I would kindly ask you to contribute to the Stranger wagon right now though. It does not seem too late for votes to change, ACIN is only a choice because of lack of alternatives and if Stranger is a wrong lynch ACIN is done, period, if it's right that does help the town.
Vote: ACIN
What Choxorn said.
And I see Earthling lynched too often. It hurts my eyes.
2 hours 6 minutes to go.
We need more votes on Chaotix......
or else we'll have....
MOAR GHOSTS N' STUFF
fluffy, I agree Chaotix seems perfectly honest in declaring he wants to form his own mafia group, but that lynch isn't happening today. I'd help in the future were I alive, but you ought to join up on another vote, still try for the Stranger.
Poor stranger. Hung out to dry by ACIN.
Unvote; Vote: The Stranger
We could have enough votes to lynch The Stranger here. Need about 15-20 but there is time and that's especially doable as we have quite a few who only abstained or didn't vote before.
Nothing easier to test on a lynch than a revealed mafia.
Unvote; Vote: The Stranger
Still only 9 votes for Stranger.
There's more people than are probably needed around though. Just afraid to jump on a wagon against a scum.
Could you elaborate on what exactly did Subotan say in connection/response to The Stranger? He already looks scummy enough too, once we see the reveal of Stranger eventually that's an easy next target.
Subo said nothing in reply. He went out for a pint with his friends soon after he got it, AND LEFT ME ALONE ON STEAM FOR SEVERAL HOURS!Quote:
Originally Posted by Earthling
It's not looking good for you Earthling.
Honestly, I didn't expect there to be 30 votes already on you.
acin's reveal came too late...
Well, Sasaki really needs to be lynched on what, Day Five I think. If he's not dead by then, don't let him go without very compelling evidence towards him having a town role with no possibility of change. Like an FBI detective revealing a role scan, not just innocent-criminal but his original role from a known detective.
Everybody paying attention to Chaotix forming his own mafia group is next, hopefully that'll sort itself out given the people involved.
The claims of pizza and ACIN vs. Stranger will easily be settled on their own soon enough.
So don't forget to lynch Sasaki, no one should be excused for killing a townie they knew was doing protection the whole time and I wouldn't believe Sasaki feigning ignorance. Keep blocking scum kills and get more new doctors to go with the other town roles, if we have a few more nights like night one we get it anyway. :bow:
Unvote; Vote: The Stranger
Too bad man..
Unvote
Vote: Stranger
Vote: ACIN
Revealing your team members is scummy. Doing it so early in the game is scummy. Everyone on that team is now a target and we will have half a dozen little side-scandals going on. This whole thing, including the "lynch me I don't care I am too busy IRL" attitude is indicative of The Revenging, and the people in the townie network you revealed in that game were suspected for the rest of the game and ultimately lynched. I do not buy your story about the accidental mafia reveal.
Does this mean you don't love me anymore?Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump
unvote: The Stranger
vote: Sasaki Kojiro
For the record, so he'll be haunted by the ghosts of townies past, present, and future.
For the record, as per the summary thread, the round has now concluded. Now, I'm guessing that Seamus is asleep so we won't know whether votes between now and whenever he gets on count, but I'm marking the cutoff in any case.
Vote: Earthling
case is more compelling.
Of course I love you, that's why I stalk you. Those underwear in your mail box are mine, BTWQuote:
Originally Posted by Earthling
EARTHLING?!?!?!??! YOU JERK! DON'T CALL ME AT 4AM ASKING FOR MY HAND IN MARRIAGE EVER AGAIN!Quote:
Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump