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""Armies of Ivan the Terrible
Russian Troops 1505–1700
(Men-at-Arms 427)

Authors: David Nicolle, Viacheslav Shpakovsky
Illustrator: Angus McBride

US Price: $15.95
UK Price: £9.50


About this book
It is generally assumed that the reforms which propelled Russia into the modern world were due solely to the genius of Peter the Great at the start of the 18th century. In fact,his reforms were built upon changes that had taken place during the previous 200 years, since the creation in 1550 of Russia’s first full-time military force – the streltsi – by Ivan IV the Terrible. This fascinating account traces Russia’s armies from that beginning, through the creationof paid regular regiments from1630, up to the reign of Peter the Great. It is illustrated with rare early drawings, photos of surviving artifacts, and dazzling colour reconstructions of exotic military costumes.

Contents

Introduction: Russia in the 16th and 17th centuries

Chronology

16th Century Eastern expansion

Noble cavalry

Artillery

New threats and horizons in the late 16th century – The 'time of troubles'

17th century armies

Arms Production

Fortifications

The Navy

Army of the Principality of Great Lithuania """


Honestly I have bad feelings about this one - what the army of Lithuanian Great Duchy is doing here for example?

It was much different - especially after 1569.

I will buy it anyway and maybe I will complain later, so let's wait ~:cool:

Some new covers for the January 2006 books boys!

First, Ancient Greek Fortifications:

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Bronze Age War Chariots

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Roman Auxiliary Cavalryman

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And last, but certainly not least, Armies of Ivan the Terrible. Great plate by Angus, looks highly atmospheric:

http://www.ospreypublishing.com/osp_...rs/S9258AL.JPG

I want the first one. Making now my 3rd set of Ospreys. ~:)

Osprey have a new poll up - make sure you all vote for an Ankara 1402 campaign book!

Also, they've updated their poll archive with some choices actually coming out in the future. Here are the new ones of interest:

Condottiere 1400-1500 (Warrior) May 2007
Celtic Oppida and Hillforts (Fortress) September 2006
Naseby 1645 (Campaign) March 2007

Personally I'm also interested in the Easter Rising Campaign book, to be released in March 2007. Condottiere and the Celtic book should be especially good.

I have done it. Let's hope it will win ~:cheers:

Ankara is winning.... 48% of the votes are to Ankara.... ~:cheers:

How good is the Sassanian Elite Cavalry?! I plan on buying this book, because I suddenly became very interested in the Sassanids. ~:)

On Thursday I have received 30 more Ospreys - some I was able to read to today e.g. Tannenberg 1410 - weird but those crappy 'cossacks' appear probably only on the backcover of the book, that is good because it seemed to be one of big blunders I have herad about before.

Regards Cegorach :bow:

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Ospreyx roxorzx! ~:thumb:
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Another good man got himself some Osprey books...

Good job Mouza-sama!!! ~:cheers:

I'm starting to think what I want for Christmas. Are there any good Central Asian/Middle East sort of stuff, from Ancient to Middle Ages? I have a good amount, like all the Mounted Archers, Attila and the Hordes, Islam 7-11, the later Byzantine ones, both Russians, the Mongol warrior, Parthia, Sassanians... Any other good ones?

I'd never really considered the more contemporary one's but I see thye've several on the Anglo-Irish wars, I think I'll be looking into them rather than the couple of Norman ones I had my eye on.

Has anyone bought/seen any of the eyewitnesses to history series? I've founf one on the Anglo Irish war, says its hardback and published by Osprey so I'm curious as to what the content in the range is like compared to the usual series.

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I'm starting to think what I want for Christmas. Are there any good Central Asian/Middle East sort of stuff, from Ancient to Middle Ages? I have a good amount, like all the Mounted Archers, Attila and the Hordes, Islam 7-11, the later Byzantine ones, both Russians, the Mongol warrior, Parthia, Sassanians... Any other good ones?

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Like these?

• Armies Of The Caliphates 862-1098
• Saladin And The Saracens
• The Armies of Islam 7th-11th Centuries
• The Mongols
• The Moors. The Islamic West 7th - 15th Centuries

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Recently I have received a book with a postcard inside. I want to send it back, but... I feel so stupid :hide: there are two problems - what should I place under 'title' and 'initials' - is title the number and the initials the abbreviation of the cathegory e.g. m-a-a for Men-at-arms series ?

There is not enough space to write the whole title, so I think it is the only way - any advice ??? :bow:

Regards Cegorach ~:grouphug:

The december poll has the following titles as options:

1. Armies of the Balkan Wars 1912-13 (Men-at-Arms)
2. World War 1 ANZACs (Elite)
3. Hittite Warrior (Warrior)
4. Warsaw Rising 1944 (Campaign)
5. Canadian Aces of World War 2 (Aircraft of the Aces)

Cast your votes, gentlemen.

I voted for Hittite Warrior, not really thrilling but the most relevant to what I get on the list.

Warsaw Rising 1944 !!! :knight: :charge:

Osprey have updated their site.

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Sample from the Russian Armies 1505-1700 book, a little grainy but looks good.

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Cover of Russian Fortresses book.

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Samples from Ancient Greek Fortifications.

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Sample from Bronze Age War Chariots.

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Sample from Roman Auxiliary Cavalryman.

Nice. I'm looking forward to Armies of Ivan the Terrible.

Can you guys tell me anything about the worth of Hungary and the Fall of Eastern Europe? What kind of information is in there? The plates I have seen -- they are quite nice.

I think given the length and nations it covers you can't really expect too much specific information, but it gives a pretty good overview for the area and the plates are really top notch.

I think it is very good for Medieval period, but after 1480 ... there is almost nothing ( 1 plate) - honestly I was disappointed when I have read this. :san_angry:

There's a new Osprey book about the Normans coming out in April according to the Osprey site. Don't get too excited though, as it merely looks like a compilation of The Normans (Elite), Norman Warrior (Warrior), and both Fortress titles. Should be worth getting if you don't have all those books though.

Oh well, I already have the Normans Warriors, and I'm asking for the Elite for Christmas...

As for Hungary and Eastern Europe, I really liked that book. A bit too short, and not enough plates on the stuff I like :san_tongue: , but it was still great.


I really like these Santa smilies. :san_cool:

Guys, I just want to give you a pointer... The Mycenean Citadels c.1350-1200 BC is very good, well worth the investment. I never knew anything but Mycenae, and even this proved to give a lot of cool info (such as comments on irrigation and draining the surrounding land). And the plates are very good, especially Tiryns (how big wasn't that one).

So I think I will get the Ancient Greek Fortifications, The Myceneans and the Bronce Age War Chariots.

If you get the chance to visit Mycenae its well worth it. Its a huge site

http://www.culture.gr/2/21/211/21104a/00/mk04a011.jpghttp://www.culture.gr/2/21/211/21104a/00/lk04a018.jpg

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Mycenae, the legendary home of the Atreides, is situated upon a small hill-top on the lower slopes of Euboea Mountain, between two of its peaks, on the road leading from the Argolic Gulf to the north (Corinth, Athens, etc.).
The site was inhabited since Neolithic times (about 4000 BC) but reached its peak during the Late Bronze Age (1350-1200 BC), giving its name to a civilization which spread throughout the Greek world

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Otterburn 1388 - Bloody border conflict (Campaign 164)

Wow this is a must for me. another book about my favourite period

Author: Peter Armstrong
Illustrator: Stephen Walsh

US Price: $18.95
UK Price: £13.99
Sched - March 2006

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About this book
In his Chronicles, Froissart described Otterburn as ‘the best fought and the most severe’ battle of his time. Fought at Redesdale, in Northumberland, in August 1388, the battle originated from the ongoing war between the Scots and the English but rapidly descended into a personal feud between the Scottish clan, Douglas, and the aristocratic English family, Percy. This book details the events that led up to this clash on the borders, using all the contemporary sources, gives a full account of the battle and examines the opposing armies and their weaponry, as well as the personalities of Black Douglas and Henry 'Hotspur' Percy.

Contents

- Origins of the Campaign
- Opposing Commanders: The Scottish Commanders and The English Commanders
- Opposing Armies: The English Army and The Scottish Army
- The Campaign: Opposing Plans and The Invasion
- The Battle of Otterburn: Sources; The site of the Battle; The date of the Battle of Otterburn
- The Aftermath: The battle of Humbleton Hill; The Battlefield Today

Yeah you may also be interested in Flodden (May) and Tudor Knight (June) Shades mate.

I shall keep my eyes on those, thanks for the info BKB

Yeah Mycenae is very good too, but it is so 'well known', that I didn't want to mention it. It has the largest part of text of all the fortresses. And I woul love to go there one day.

Just the other day I bought Elite: Japanese Paratroop Forces of World War II.
I must say it looked awesome. Here was a part of the war that I had never heard about. Too bad I had ideas of the German troops in numbers and efficiency.

The book it rather boring, though the plates by M. Chappell and A. Hook are great (but sadly boring once more). It is very detailed about the looks of the soldiers, but it seems that it relies a whole lot on the Allied accounts (and even points that out). So the material is not too good, only the first three landings are worth anything, though the section on the planned (suicide) landings at Saipan in 44 is great.

Also bought Essential Histories: The Russo-Japanese War 1904-1905
So far it has been very good. Quite detailed if somewhat lacking in plates and maneuvering (only the most obvious meneuvers are shown), so it is a quite demanding book, despite being supposed to be easy to read for all.
The best thing about it is that it is written without any bias. The Japanese in fact get quite a bit of positive press (which makes one wonder how they could change so much 30 years later).
Not surprisingly the Russians are quite inept, but have a few bright stars that the author makes sure to present, as they had important jobs (sadly they were not supported well by their superiors).

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Quite detailed if somewhat lacking in plates and maneuvering

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Yeah unfortunately mate there are no plates in the Essential Histories books, hence their cheapness. (In comparison with the other series' at least)

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Yeah unfortunately mate there are no plates in the Essential Histories books, hence their cheapness. (In comparison with the other series' at least)

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I know that... I guess I expressed myself wrongly, I meant that the battleplates (maps with maneuvers) are a little too weak. You feel highly confused at times, also because the events unfold very fast. You can't actually sit and draw a map yourself as you lack the info.

One bad thing that has been happening late in the book is a tendency to mix events. You follow one general and his troops suddenly without pause you are thrown at another general and troops without knowing it (by using 'they', 'he' or 'it' for instance it is impossible to make out).

Wow, what a great thread !!! I have stumbled here by accident, but now Monastery has become the place where I spend most of my time at the ORG :san_grin: :san_shocked: because history, especially ancient and medieval history, is one of my hobbies.

Believe it or not but I have read ALL 25 pages in this thread. Yeah I'm a masochist :san_grin: I know. But I didn't just read the pages, I have carefully compiled my own OSPREY books wish list so to speak. Unfortunately this list is rather long and by the first estimation the full costs would run up to 4000$ :san_shocked: LOL Yeah, so I'll have to take it easy and collect bit by bit.

Also, someone here mentioned that I can get OSPREY books in pdf format. That would be great for me as I'd be able to judge the worthiness of the title before I buy it, thus saving quite a bit. Could anyone point me to this wonderful source of pdf files?

Many thanks,
Rev

PS BKB - you are my hero !!!

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Not sure what to say Rev but thanks for such high praise! Glad to see you've taken a shine to these books, they're great little sources of info.

As for books in pdf format, we'll unfortunately I don't think I can help you with that. If you want a sneak peak of the kind of plates you can expect in the book though, I can give you a link to a Polish Total War site which has a huge thread on Osprey where they've attached pictures of loads of books. LMK mate.

BKB is really a hero for this thread. :book:

BKB,

What books can you recommend on the Roman army?!Especially the legions.

For the imperial era I can recommend both legionary titles form the warrior series:
Imperial Roman Legionary 161-284 AD
Roman Legionary 58BC-69AD
For my taste the men-at-arms books are much to short for such an extensive topic. Also Roman auxilary cavalryman 14-193 AD will be released this month.

Yes as Cuncator said those two titles in the 'Warrior' series are excellent, plus the plates by Angus McBride are very good indeed. You can't really go too far wrong there.

For Christmas I got The Normans, Army of the Muslim Conquest and Saladin and the Saracens. They are all excellent, though I have not yet fininshed the Normans (got a whole bunch of other books to read as well).

Anybody have any plates of the Etruscans? Thanks for any help provided.

Only Etruscans I can recall are ones of them fighting the Celts by Angus McBride in either his Concord titles or the 'Warlords' one for Blandford Press, and there are a few. I'll see what I can find.

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For the imperial era I can recommend both legionary titles form the warrior series:
Imperial Roman Legionary 161-284 AD
Roman Legionary 58BC-69AD
For my taste the men-at-arms books are much to short for such an extensive topic. Also Roman auxilary cavalryman 14-193 AD will be released this month.

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Ah yes, it would be interesting to see how the style changed... I mean we all know the nice segmented armour and square tower shields, and then suddenly we have chain or no armour and oval flat shields.

I know that it seems that Septimus Severus was the last to truly use the 'old' lorica segmentata (that we know of of course), but then there is a major gap in my knowledge until about Constantine.

Snevets, here's one mate:

https://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?...celts113hs.jpg

Obviously the ones to the right are Etruscans.

I know there's at least two more but I can't find them at the minute.

Thanks Bohemia. Any others you could find would be good.

Etruscan
https://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y1...rus/img158.jpg

Angus is deffienetly way to varied in his quality. I have a bunch of great stuff by him, like the Normans, Vikings, Muslim Conquest, Saladin, Islamic Armies and my favorite, Atilla and the Hordes. But then when I look at Byzantine Armies 800 whatever (the middle one, not the last one), and even Sassanian Elite Cav, there totally different. Why does he change his style so much? I get that he gets better from Byzantine Armies 800 whatever, but how did he get worse (IMHO) in Sassanians? The book was good, but the plates were very sad compared to Atilla or Normans or even Saladin.

Its a great shame mate but its quite probably age, I mean he's 75 now, we'ere just gonna have to face facts that he isn't as good as he was. He's using a different technique and if that allows him to go on longer than so be it that's fine with me. I still think he pisses over every other Osprey artist anyway.

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Its a great shame mate but its quite probably age, I mean he's 75 now, we'ere just gonna have to face facts that he isn't as good as he was. He's using a different technique and if that allows him to go on longer than so be it that's fine with me. I still think he pisses over every other Osprey artist anyway.

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I both agree and not... Yes he might be getting too old, but some of his later works are still comparable to his 'golden' years.
But I don't think that in his lesser works he is pissing the competition away. There are several younger artists that are quickly catching up to him. Wayne Renolds when he doesn't get up close to his subjects (it seems every man and his dog has to scream in a cartoony fashion), Mike Chapell, Bryan Deff and the two Hooks can match 'the old man of the pen'. Of course he has in his best works some very special way to make it lively yet still believeable, and that is the difference. Technically his works aren't better but his balance of what he includes is superior.

Reynolds is good yes but will never be of McBride's quality. I don't know the first two but as for the two Hooks (which two? There are 3) they are 'technically' good but will never, ever invoke spirit and the essence of a real piece of history in their paintings the way Angus does.

I really only have McBride stuff, I only have Sarmatians by Embelton... which is not nearly as good as most of McBride's stuff.

I have just received the Armies of Ivan the Terrible and managed to read some parts of it I wanted to try first.

Overall - it is worth money I paid, gives some interesting informations and the plates ( McBride ) are excellent ... but in some places is so incredibly, terribly biased and the last part ( Lithuanian army) is almost a pure nonsense.

What is biased ?
Well.. I would say that everything which discribes Ukraine, Lithuanian Grand Duchy or mentiones Poland in any way.
- the author most likely believes that tha whole Cossack thing, their whole purpose was to take Ukraine to Russia, there is almost no mention that it was In Poland-Lithuania and some descriptions of Cossack troops are about those in POLISH army, although it is conveniently omitted or forgotten ( short memory loss ?).
- the timetable, there is no mention about the battles Russia lost and there is some ranting about Smolensk liberated from Lithuanian occupation - before it there was no Russia, no Tzars etc so who was occupied ?
Smolensk was a frontier city at that time and even in early XXth century 10 % of its citizens were Polish,
- it is written that it was unsuccessful siege of Polock in 1617 which made Gustavus Adolphus reform its army or that it was the major reason of them - I guess that previous 20 years of endless defeats in war vs POland-Lithuania didn't count at all,
- Livonian War is only mentioned even if it was one of the most important events of that period, the war vs. Poland which ended this period is only mentioned as unsuccessful siege of Polock ( again Polock rulez !) - nothing about that it was one of at least 10 battles/sieges and the whole rest were Russian defeats - it is like writing about 30-years war without Lutzen or swedish involvement at all,
- the only battle against Poles is conveniently the one which was won - if a band of volunteers counts at all,
- there is no information how the hell these Poles got to Moscow (only liberation was mentioned) - as tourists visiting their relatives ? I guess that the battle at Klushino in 1610 doesn't count at all,
- the largest battle in eastern Europe in XVIth century ( Orsha ) isn't mentioned, there is only a part of the painting celebrating this greatest Lithuanian victory and it is the one where lithuanian Tatar auxilia is running away - true they faked rout lured Russians into a trap, but who cares !
- Smolensk war, the first trial of new russian 'foreign' regiments isn't isn't worth more than 5-7 words, nothing about its outcome,
- no mention about Polish-lithuanian state it is only Lithuania,
- no mention about the units copied from Poland - they were about 20 % of russian cavalry,
- Prince Radziwill, hetman - commander of Lithuanian army in Polish-Lithuanian state appears almost as a Russian !
- The part about the army of Lithuania is full of bullocks - like that its majority were infantrymen, of course any Polish word or even the very word 'polish' in any form doesn't appear at all even though it was in 400-years long union with POLAND where Lithuania was and its official and unofficial language was Polish, its army organisation was like in Poland, as well as titles of commanders, names of weaponry - almost EVERYTHING except some special types of troops ( Tatars and Petyhorcy cavalry)

and many, many others.

I was waiting for this book and now I feel almost betrayed.

I believe it can be read, but only TOGETHER with bot books about Polish armies of that period - otherwise...:wall: :furious3:

Regards Cegorach

How'd you get it so early mate? Any good battle/action plates?

If I am correct there are two battle plates - one with Zaporozhian Cossacks charging from wagonburg and second with Streltsy musketeers shooting somewhere.
Not bad overall.

BTW - the Orsha thing - all right it is not so bad - there is another piece of the painting showing Polish hussars chasing Russian cavalry, but still there is no mention who won the battle - ( Lithuanians and Poles).

I have also noticed that some descriptions of the plates are not without mistakes - especially with Zaporozhian Cossack leader having bulawa mace used as a mark of command in Polish army which is not explained at all - it is just plain, meaningless weapon to the author ! Shame.

And finally if I am correct the whole incredibly important fact of Polish-Lithuanian union which lasted 400 years ( Poland-Lithuania was the most important neighbour of Russia for God's sake !!) is mentioned ONCE - for the rest of the book you have Lithuanians, Lithuanian Grand Duke ( obviously belittling the rank of the KING of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania almost like in XIXth century Russian propaganda pieces) and sometimes some evil Poles probably teleported right from the middle Europe without any apparent reason to invade 'peaceful' Russia... utter, plain rubbish. :wall:
Hopefully I will live long enough to see unbiased Osprey book from a Russian writer concerning Polish-Russian relations. :shame:

In fact many of the informations I was looking for aren't here - but I know they are in many russian sources, even I know more about several parts of the russian army which is supposed to be described in the book.
Don't get me wrong - when I have read the Polish armies books I found them very intersting even if I know really much about the Polish-Lithuanian army of that period and after reading this particular one I feel that my knowledge is not any better, in fact I have learnt more from ONE webside of a russian historian - I can give you the link if you want.

Overall such a BIG title and so much dissappointment...:no: :shame:

Regards Cegorach

Thanks mate. I got this, Roman Auxiliary Cavalryman, Bronze Age War Chariots and Ancient Greek Fortifications from a hobby shop today, good stuff. I do like the plates in Ivan I must say, very good. Sorry to hear your disappointed with the info though, you specialize in this kind of thing so I wouldn't be sure about the mistakes to be honest.

I got the Osprey catalogue today - there's two more good compilation books coming out in June. One about the Vikings with the elite title, the New Vanguard Longboat title and the Warrior Viking Hersir book. Then there's one called 'Warriors of the Dragon' or something like that with all 5 Chinese Armies men at arms books, dating from 1500BC-1840. Good purchases if you don't already have these books.

Don't worry ANGUS aint losing his touch.

I think u guys need to compare angus's best art and his not as good art and look at the date of first print!!

The Byzantine books were done earlier than the Osprey books with better art.

Angus's art isn't going down, its going up!

It was, but not anymore. Sassanian Heavy Horse is far inferior to Vikings, Normans or Atilla and the Nomad Hordes. That said, it is way better than his earliest stuff.

I think the Ivan book might be a bit of a return to form - I don't believe he uses the charcoal-type drawing materials in this one so it looks a lot better.

A small treat for you guys that don't have Concord's Age of the Crusades - many of you won't have seen these pics but its a shame because they are brilliant. Angus in 2004 mind, showing he can still match up to his earlier stuff and then some. I'll post a few more tomorrow. Slightly slanted and not great I know but they were tough to scan:

Lechfeld:

https://img367.imageshack.us/img367/3871/magyar9qd.jpg

Clontarf (brilliant):

https://img367.imageshack.us/img367/...lontarf0hl.jpg

Timurids battling an elephant in Asia:

https://img367.imageshack.us/img367/543/timurid6gi.jpg

In the Ivan book, is there any thing mentioned about the Crimean Khanate? Any pics or just a paragraph about them? I'm thinking about getting it, but if it doesn't mention some of their enemies (especially the coolest, the Crimeans...)

Wow... those are great. And I agree, Clontarf (vikings vs ?) is absolutely brilliant, but Lechfeld is to an extent better in that it portrays the men more up close and personal.

But I'm surprised with the number of men at Clontarf that we only see one man down, another on the way (how his oponent gets to the position of striking I can't fathom) and a possible one (the axeman vs spearman).

Hello! I'm interested in the Montvert book Sassanian Armies. I've been told that there's a picture of some Hephthalite and Chionite warriors in this book. Does anyone know where I can find this picture, and any other pictures from this book?

I just got the Osprey catalogue earlier this week.

Hopefully I can order some more, I am very fond of Osprey books....

Wanna order:
-The Normans
-Ancient Greek Fortifications
-Japanese Castles
-Macedonian Elite Warrior

Plus some other books, but I don't have my list near me.
Any thoughts?!

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In the Ivan book, is there any thing mentioned about the Crimean Khanate? Any pics or just a paragraph about them? I'm thinking about getting it, but if it doesn't mention some of their enemies (especially the coolest, the Crimeans...)

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There is one guy on the plate, but this one comes from the Russian army, overall if there is hardly anything about the most important neighbour of Russia Poland-Lithuania and these few pieces of information are biased what can you expect. So there is nothing worth reading - I know much more anyway - see Pike and Musket TW sub-forum - soon I will post something more i.e. screens of finished Tatar army.

Regards Cegorach :book:

[QUOTE=Steppe Merc]In the Ivan book, is there any thing mentioned about the Crimean Khanate?

I have checked my Osprey books and it seems that the best description of Crimean armies is in Polish armies 1569-1696 volume 2 including one plate:

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b...rd-bearerC.jpg

True, I would like to see a seperate book about Crimean army or at least a compilation with Transylvanian, Wallachian and Moldavian armies - maybe titled Ottoman Vassals and their armies ( :idea2: ...I will propose the title on Osprey webpage, who knows... ) because it would be great to see some plates for it maybe by Vuksic who actually made some great images ( can be seen on his webpage), although someone really good should write it, not like the author of the Ivan book :no:

Regards Cegorach

So far there's no book regarding the Wallachian or Moldavian armies. :no:

Yeah, a whole bunch of really interesting people haven't been covered, mainly because of their obssesion with WW2...
And I think a book of Ottoman vassals would be awesome! Does the book on the Ottomans talk anything about the Crimeans or the Moldavians etc?

3 more Age of the Crusades pics for your viewing pleasure:

Siege of Kazan

https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/753/russians9kx.jpg

Siege of Jerusalem (Great)

https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2091/jerusalem7bt.jpg

Battle of Hastings (Really encapsulates 'Dark Age' feel - Angus at his best)

https://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2272/hastings1wj.jpg

Wooow...Nice plates. ~D

Any thoughts on my list?!

I ordered Age of Tamerlane used from Amazon... Hope it's as good as the other Ospreys I've been getting lately.

The cover of Macedonian Warrior has been posted:

http://www.ospreypublishing.com/osp_...rs/S9509AL.JPG

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Yeah, a whole bunch of really interesting people haven't been covered, mainly because of their obssesion with WW2...
And I think a book of Ottoman vassals would be awesome!


Does the book on the Ottomans talk anything about the Crimeans or the Moldavians etc?

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- not really, there are few sentences about the Tatars in both Ottoman books ( the second 1775-1820 is unusually useful when it comes to XVIIth century in other regions e.g. Algieria, Libya , I can recommend it) and almost nothing about the Moldavians/Wallachians - again the second volume of the Polish Armies is the best source about both Tatars and Moldavians/Wallachians and there is something about Hungarians, Cossacks and others, even Scots - everyone was serving in polish forces at that time.

BTW I think I have found one source used by McBride in the Ivan book

https://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b...rach/litwa.jpg

Still I would like to speak to the person which called Lithuanian infantrymen 'Streltsy' and placed them alongside their bitter enemies Russian streltsy ! I think I should write some kind of review for the Ivan book, no mercy ! :skull:

Regards Cegorach

I think some plates aren't always intended to represent an accurate scene - if you look at a good deal of Angus' pictures in many he puts together 3 or 4 people who probably wouldn't mix in real life into the same scene, probably just to get as much as possible into a picture. Think of it kind of like those old books with 3 different guys on a white background but upgraded and made into a kind of fictional scene, not intended to be accurate but to show you a good variety of peoples.

Ceg did you get my PM mate?

Yes, I am reading it now... :book: :book:

New poll on Osprey site. Main ones of interest are a New Vanguard book about Greek Warships and an Irish Kern 1400-1500 MAA book. I think this is a mistake and they mean a Warrior title, but it sounds excellent nonetheless, and I urge you to all vote for it. Should be an Irish Warrior book though from 1000-1600, featuring both Kerns and Gallowglass and more besides.

Oh and Osprey's site has confirmed that a Hittite Warrior (Warrior) book is coming out in August 2007. I imagine Angus will do that, although I'd like him to do something (IMO) more interesting.

Just bought Montvert's 'Justinian's Wars' for a very reasonable price I must say considering how rare it is. That's my collection complete now save for new stuff.

BKB I think you have the most complete Osprey collection in the world, except for the guy who owns Osprey. :skull: :2thumbsup:

Anyways, anyone know some shops in Geneve where I can buy Osprey books?!

Ed

P.S.:Got my PM BKB?!

Well I dread to think if anyone ever got ALL the books, including all the post 17th century stuff. It'd be enormous! I was talking about Montvert and Concord too, so more of a pre 17th century Illustrated Military books collection.:laugh4:

Yes I did mate, replied.

Replied to the PM mate.

What good books do you recommend on the Normans?!
I mean, is the Normans(the big book) any good?!(scheduled for April, I think)

I wanna buy it, but I need some recommendations first. :2thumbsup:

Well its worth it purely for having Angus McBride illustrated 'The Normans' (Elite) in it. Since you also get Norman Knight and both Norman fortifications books in it I'd say its definitely a good purchase.

Thanks mate. I also replied to your PM, check it out.... :book:

Adam Hook's illustrating a Pharsalus campaign book coming out in September:

Amazon Link Pharsalus

This should be intriguing, a Fortress title about Indian Castles from 1206-1526 coming out in September:

Indian Castles Amazon link

Another good Fortress title (we knew about this one a while back, seems to have had a name change), The Forts of Celtic Britain coming in again in September:

Celtic Forts Amazon link

Yet another Fortress book about the Spanish Main from 1493-1800, coming out in August:

Spanish Main Amazon link

An Elite title about the Scottish Jacobite Army in September:

Jacobites Amazon link

ANOTHER Fortress title, one about the Fortifications of Gibraltar from 1068-1946 in October:

Gibraltar Amazon link

That would appear to be it for the rest of the year, although hopefully there will be more, including an Angus McBride illustrated book! This is just from Amazon mind, so there's a good chance there could be more than this, indeed I hope there is anyway.

Nothing of interest for me, except maybe the Celtic Forts. Damn.... :embarassed:

Can't wait to order my new set of books. :2thumbsup:

-Japanese Castles 1540-1630
-Ninja
-Ancient Greek Fortifications
-Normans(big 200p book)
-Macedonian Elite Warrior
-Sassanid Elite Cavalry

Any thoughts? ~:)

I have Ninja. I would say it is a good choice. :book:



@Only castles BKB ???