ALEXANDER EB

Much thanks to everyone who worked to get EB 1.1 working on Alex.exe.

Having tried it though, I'm not sure it suits my style of play. I play with Huge unit size, and I'm very worried about the AI draining their city populations because they're retraining their depleted units as well as building new ones. This makes for larger enemy armies, and bigger battles, but how are the smaller towns going to cope?

As far as the AI goes, I like it a lot. The AI is extremely aggressive, even on Medium campaign difficulty. For instance, Pahlava attacked Seleucia immediately! Never seen that in BI. The AI is so aggressive you can almost imagine that you are playing against other humans in a multiplayer game!

The AI does seem to gather it's troops together better too.

i dont know but i think that alx.exe is easier than bi. I havent seen naval activity yet only few cheap ships(and they are 3x cheaper than was in original export_units.) Im in 255 and some factions which were very strong in RTW and BI are now weak and stupid. For expample Germans,Carthagians Seleucid, Dacia. They cant capture rebel setllements and they have been destroying by small factions. But i think that battle AI is better.

please some pictures of your campains in year abou 255 and 200

Hi there,
I'm using 1.1 with Alex and with Darth Stalin's revised Romani skins...and I just want to be sure that immortality has been taken care of in the this version, as my initial faction leader is already 71....is this normal? when can I know if he is unnnaturally old?

Please advise, thanks.
B

Well, maybe he's just very lucky...
As I remember, I had Dentatus in my old 1.0 campaign to live about as long on RTW 1.5 engine - the old FMs chave the increasing chance of dying when old enough, but this is stil a chance, not certainity. Rare occasion, but happens sometimes...

I am not sure how to do it?

What is the difference?:shrug:

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Originally Posted by Maksimus

The same target that was used for EB 1 is used for EB11 so the targer is the same.
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hi yeah I got it working with that shortcut and several other it works for a short while each time but then CTD me and when I try going back on it comes back up with the MP menu setup

has anyone else go this happening?

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Originally Posted by Titus Marcellus Scato

Much thanks to everyone who worked to get EB 1.1 working on Alex.exe.

Having tried it though, I'm not sure it suits my style of play. I play with Huge unit size, and I'm very worried about the AI draining their city populations because they're retraining their depleted units as well as building new ones. This makes for larger enemy armies, and bigger battles, but how are the smaller towns going to cope?

As far as the AI goes, I like it a lot. The AI is extremely aggressive, even on Medium campaign difficulty. For instance, Pahlava attacked Seleucia immediately! Never seen that in BI. The AI is so aggressive you can almost imagine that you are playing against other humans in a multiplayer game!

The AI does seem to gather it's troops together better too.

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IIRC, the EB script replenishes depleted cities...

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Originally Posted by king hannibal

hi yeah I got it working with that shortcut and several other it works for a short while each time but then CTD me and when I try going back on it comes back up with the MP menu setup

has anyone else go this happening?

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Sorry I am not sure what is the problem :wall:

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Originally Posted by Blazing141

Hi there,
I'm using 1.1 with Alex and with Darth Stalin's revised Romani skins...and I just want to be sure that immortality has been taken care of in the this version, as my initial faction leader is already 71....is this normal? when can I know if he is unnnaturally old?

Please advise, thanks.
B

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It is just fine, Immortality is fixed so dont worry :yes:

And about the T script, I am not sure how to change it and I dont have much time so any suggestions would be nice :))

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Originally Posted by mcantu

IIRC, the EB script replenishes depleted cities...

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Really? I didn't know that.

How does it work?

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Originally Posted by Maksimus

Sorry I am not sure what is the problem :wall:

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hi sorry to give you a head arch :oops:

I've done everything you said to do to get ALX-EB working which I ends up working but after the first time I've played it and come off it the shortcut don't take me to the single player menu setup anymore but instead takes me MP menu setup

and so I can't load my game I tryed several target ending which have work but none that have sorted out the problem

but I'm pretty sure now that it's something to do with playing MP on the same copy as ALX-EB not totaly sure though

Just reinstall everything and try again, but place installation in default folders :square:

that include EB from scratch as well or you ALX.exe files and setup of it

thanks:2thumbsup:

I mean everything :laugh4: . Whole RTW game and then install Rome and Alexander and this patch

That means reamove the Activison/Sega game, install it from scratch :yes:

New install must be in default folders.

so it goes: install Rome, patch 1,3 and 1,5 and then install Alexander add-on and then this patch :grin:

NICE not :sweatdrop: :wall:

think I'll try doing abit of modding to see if I can get it to work as I've got a load of mods on RTW take like aday to sort it out from scratch:shame:

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Originally Posted by Blazing141

Hi there,
I'm using 1.1 with Alex and with Darth Stalin's revised Romani skins...and I just want to be sure that immortality has been taken care of in the this version, as my initial faction leader is already 71....is this normal? when can I know if he is unnnaturally old?

Please advise, thanks.
B

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I once had a family member some years over 80 in EB 1.0 on RTW 1.5, so i'd say unnaturally old is something over 90/95 :)

does my Alex need to be totally "clean"?
i have a mini-mod that tweaks unit movement speeds an other minor changes installed over it ages ago. can i still use this copy?
thanks

P.S. also interested if immortal bug being fixed btw.

Dentatus now 75 years old....will keep you guys posted on whether immortality has truly been fixed...

I'm pretty sure it says right in the first post that immortality has been fixed, as well as confirmed throughout recent posts.

Just to add my own confirmation of death to ease your troubled minds, my faction leader recently died at the ripe old age of 68. So that's that.

If I'm not mistaken, there just might still be immortality for some far-off rebel generals just so they don't die by the time anyone gets to them and their garrisons take off and ruin all that fun stuff.

....praying for Dentatus' death....

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Originally Posted by Sarkiss

does my Alex need to be totally "clean"?
i have a mini-mod that tweaks unit movement speeds an other minor changes installed over it ages ago. can i still use this copy?
thanks

P.S. also interested if immortal bug being fixed btw.

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You can easilly just see what files are tweaked from the download link. And yes you can use most minimods - that is, ALL minimods for EB if you want. But you must see if other minimods are compatibly vice versa - coz I am not sure I dont use them all :shrug: ( I use CityMod and Naval)

I can confirm that only the mods that tweak traits or descr_start.txt* are NOT compatible - all other are compatible :yes:

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Originally Posted by Maksimus

You can easilly just see what files are tweaked from the download link. And yes you can use most minimods - that is, ALL minimods for EB if you want. But you must see if other minimods are compatibly vice versa - coz I am not sure I dont use them all :shrug: ( I use CityMod and Naval)

I can confirm that only the mods that tweak traits or descr_start.txt* are NOT compatible - all other are compatible :yes:

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i see, thanks.
the only mods im planning to use are Spols of Victory and perhaps Force Diplomacy but these two shouldnt cause any trouble...
will give it a try, thanks.
btw, difficulty settings are more or less comparable with 1.5 and BI exe?
i mean if i usually play EB on Hard campaign will it be the same or weaker/harder with Alex exe?

Well, I suggest playing campain on Very hard, with battles on Hard.
Anything easier than Very hard in campaign means losing your time - the AI is a little bit demanding only on VH settings, no matter which engine it uses.

I suggest Very Hard campaigns in any case and Very hard or default (medium) battle.. :grin:

Maksimus what do you think about Kosovo independancy ? Just curious :book:

Did anyone get alex.exe to work with the trivial script yet? If not this link from the bi thread might help. https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...60&postcount=7

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Originally Posted by Gertrude

Maksimus what do you think about Kosovo independancy ? Just curious :book:

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... look this post and plz dont ask those questions here

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...d.php?t=156236

Very hard battles are not good option - the AI cheats with units' stats...

How can I use the TrivalScript with alex.exe?

Check out ebconfig.xml file in Rome folder.

Find
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<Element> <ID>RtwStart</ID> <Type>String</Type> <Values> <Text>RomeTW.exe -mod:eb</Text> </Values> </Element>


Change RomeTW.exe to whatever you like.

That is ALX.exe

Thanks:rtwyes:

Did it work? :shrug:

Are there advantages when I play EB on BI instead of ALX? The different types of formation?
THX

only if you can not live without some formations that are not implemented in Alexander..

But... for me that is not important coz most of those formations were used vastly after the EB time frame... :shrug:

And if you compare AI of ALX.exe and BI.exe ... Well, let's just say that great majority of players that tried ALX.exe after BI.exe are still using ALX.exe

Including myself :yes:

Hi guys..
So I installed EB 1.1, then the mini-mod to make it work with Alex, then TWFanatics Phalanx Mod, then DS' Romani fix to "fix" the various Roman elite troops...Also, I am NOT using trivial script to load the game...I basically just created a shortcut to start RTW-Alx.exe....

NOW FOR THE FUNNY PART....

I am somehow able to both play custom battles with the new Romani units AND still play the Imperial Campaign (seemingly) without having to switch EDU's...

Is this possible? Am I headed for disaster? Its still early in the game and all seems well, should I expect trouble down the road?

Thanks for any insight...

Bests
B

It is quite normal that you can play any Single Player option.. :shrug:

Custom, Historical.. Main ...

That is the good part with the target line :yes:

Well, installing this again from scratch is an absolute nightmare.

It would help to be as crystal clear as possible in the first post about how to do the install, especially when the SEGA installers are so unhelpful, and continually install things in 'default' locations even when you don't want them to.

Maks does the target line need to be just rometw-alx.exe or do I need to add other modifiers?

What should correct target line be?

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Well, installing this again from scratch is an absolute nightmare.

It would help to be as crystal clear as possible in the first post about how to do the install, especially when the SEGA installers are so unhelpful, and continually install things in 'default' locations even when you don't want them to.

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Belive it or not but I have my game on D after EB 11 :shrug:

Default location is an issue for the people that dont know how to install the game in alternarive location and make it work

you and me and anyone can install it in any location and the important part about the target line is the part that goes after RTW folder

So you install it anywhere and when you chabge the target you do this at the end

... \RomeTW-ALX.exe" -mod:eb -show_err -nm -noalexander

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Originally Posted by Blazing141

Maks does the target line need to be just rometw-alx.exe or do I need to add other modifiers?

What should correct target line be?

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... \RomeTW-ALX.exe" -mod:eb -show_err -nm -noalexander
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Well i tried to use the trivial script by editing the trivial script config file but it causes some serious bugs. alx.exe started with the trivial script and i could load my campaign but it was running slow and when i ended my turn it messed up all the traits on my characters replacing them all with the same several traits, which prompted me to try a new campaign which does not work with a message to select an item from the list. Switching it back to rtw.exe with the trivial script and that behavior went away and when i used alex.exe through the suggested direct shortcut everything was fine. So guess ill use that for alx.exe but ill miss the minimal UI from the trivial script, is it possible and does anyone know how to use the minimil UI without the trivial script?

Can I addmitt that I dont know what is Trivila script for :shrug:

Hi Maks,

I think I blew it and didnt put in the command line modifiers...might this explain why my FM (dentatus) doesnt die?

Also, once I make the change is it save game compatible?

Finally, can this change also be made in the Trivial Script?

Thanks in advance for your help and hard work.

I was thinking of purchasing Alex to play on this. How do I get it? Can't order off of the TW Website.

http://www.amazon.com/Sega-Of-Americ...9070906&sr=8-2


You can order from Amazon...

All the Total War games before M2TW for a one low price....

Ah, IC. It only comes with Eras. :( That is fairly low price for all of them, but the only one I'm interested in is really just Alex. Are the soundtrack and documentary stuff all that great?

They're cool to have even if they are not the greatest thing since sliced bread...also, it is the easiest way to get Alex, which is the whole point...

which exe allows schiltron for spear units? or is that something for m2tw only? I forgot if BI or alex had it or not.

I want the hoplites to have it, even more deadlier to the calvary.

My knowledge of the trivial script is a bit vague as well Maksimus, I think it just gives you a simple gui to switch some of the options that before you would have to edit files or shortcuts like disabling the arrow markers in battle or turning off the movies. But ill search through the forums for more info on it although all I've found so far where a few odd comments and "Trivial script (very simple script engine that lets people create graphical interface for simple actions). Allows user friendly change of lighting, game type and modesty patch settings." from the 1.1 release thread. Also I'm retarded as all you need to do for the minimal ui is change a line in the preferences.dat file to true which is where it should logically be.

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Originally Posted by Blazing141

Hi Maks,

I think I blew it and didnt put in the command line modifiers...might this explain why my FM (dentatus) doesnt die?

Also, once I make the change is it save game compatible?

Finally, can this change also be made in the Trivial Script?

Thanks in advance for your help and hard work.

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If you just download the files and change the target you will be fine. also only if that FLeader is over 100 years old you should worry :shrug:

It is save game compatible it's just that it will mess your traits and you are not going to be able to push night battles since descr_start.txt is tweaked.. soo..
I suggest new campaign :grin:

And since TScripti is some kind of optional add-on I am not going to tweak it coz I dont know how.. in any case if someone makes it work I will add it to the main post for everyone :curtain:

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My knowledge of the trivial script is a bit vague as well Maksimus, I think it just gives you a simple gui to switch some of the options that before you would have to edit files or shortcuts like disabling the arrow markers in battle or turning off the movies. But ill search through the forums for more info on it although all I've found so far where a few odd comments and "Trivial script (very simple script engine that lets people create graphical interface for simple actions). Allows user friendly change of lighting, game type and modesty patch settings." from the 1.1 release thread. Also I'm retarded as all you need to do for the minimal ui is change a line in the preferences.dat file to true which is where it should logically be.

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If you make it work I am gonna bring dancing girls here for you :dancinglock:

Well the only thing that was causing those problems i had was leaving -noalexander out of ebconfig.xml. Just edit line 215 to look like this
<Text>RomeTW-ALX.exe -mod:eb -noalexander</Text>
and alexander works fine with the trivial script. Didn't figure this out myself but saw a mention of it in another thread.

Thank you :)

Hello. Great mod you've got here. AI's much improved along with the load times.

So I installed RTW and ALX, installed EB 1.1, copied the files correctly and it runs just fine except for this;

https://s181.photobucket.com/albums/...rrent=what.jpg

Yup, question marks in traits that call for a foreign alphabet. This applies to every faction, but the traits in english are fine.

no crashes, no weird traits, just this. It's sorta annoying but not really game breaking, just immersion breaking.

Any known fixes?

First time I see this in my life :shrug:

I want to thank Maksimus for all the hard work he has done.

Just a quick question if I may...

How many units can one have with Alexander? Models?
Is there a clear answer?

500
EDU & DMB :grin:

My save from RTW+EB works but I cannot start new campaign.Got "please select an item from list" message.
Any ideas?
As I said,my save works,but my cartaginian generals got a lot of strange traits like sweboz victory conditions,seleucid relations,and many more.It seems all mixed up.Did I install it all properly?I mean:
1.rome+updates
2.alexander
3.eb
4.your mod(into my eb directory)
5.target changed.
Where did I go wrong?

If you start new game you are gonna mess the trait system :(

But game will work.. so you really should start new one :shrug:

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If you start new game you are gonna mess the trait system :(

But game will work.. so you really should start new one :shrug:

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So how will I start it when I get "please select an item from the list" message when I try to start new game?:embarassed: :help:

Hi .... Today is the first day that i use the eb with Alexander :2thumbsup: ..at last no disrupted phalanxes :bounce: !!!! But i have one question....can i use the shield wall ability or it is unsupported ....

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Hi .... Today is the first day that i use the eb with Alexander :2thumbsup: ..at last no disrupted phalanxes :bounce: !!!! But i have one question....can i use the shield wall ability or it is unsupported ....

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No you can't use shield wall, schiltrom or swimming in Alex.

luvadea, are you using trivial script and if you are did you put -noalexander in the ebconfig.xml file like <Text>RomeTW-ALX.exe -mod:eb -noalexander</Text>
because thats the error i get when it is missing -noalexander. If you are using the shortcut method double check that its in the shortcut target line properly.

Hey I downloaded the modified files and put them in manually, one by one as I didnt see any kind of installer and if I tried to extract them it just put them into a seperate folder, now when I play battles it tells me that several files are missing, I didn't get them all but onagers was there. The battle plays normally once I click OK, but I think if I have a battle with siege equipment or balistae it will CTD, did I put the files in wrong?? I definitely put them in the right locations... or is there an installer in there somewhere?

Fair tidings, and thank you for making and uploading the files to play EB on the alx.exe, I have enjoyed the frame rate boost and improved AI very much indeed and have had the most balanced total war campaigns ever. But it would seem that I have run into some trouble following the installation of EB 1.1, as many letters of my Sweboz traits seem to be replaced by question marks, here is a link to my thread about it for further reference :

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=103277

Do you think it could have anything to do with the alx.exe tweaked files?

Thank you for your time.





EDIT: Just saw this :

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Originally Posted by TheOmegaWalrus

Hello. Great mod you've got here. AI's much improved along with the load times.

So I installed RTW and ALX, installed EB 1.1, copied the files correctly and it runs just fine except for this;

https://s181.photobucket.com/albums/...rrent=what.jpg

Yup, question marks in traits that call for a foreign alphabet. This applies to every faction, but the traits in english are fine.

no crashes, no weird traits, just this. It's sorta annoying but not really game breaking, just immersion breaking.

Any known fixes?

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If you start new game you are gonna mess the trait system :(

But game will work.. so you really should start new one :shrug:

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I tried starting a new game, even did a reinstall, and the missing letters are still there unfortunately.

@thelord - you need to copy all and overwrite it in EB folder :yes:

@Skandinav - really dont know :shrug:

Any other EB players out there using the alx.exe who have experienced the same in EB 1.1 ?
It would be very helpful to know if it is a genuine bug or something I´m doing wrong somehow, I would very much like to continue playing on the alx.exe as it has proven, to me at least, to be better than Barbarian Invasion.

Have a good day.

I love the new AI and the night fighting but I'm not too keen on the tweaked starts. What files should I avoid overwriting to keep the starts the same as with EB 1.1?

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Originally Posted by Dr Octo

I love the new AI and the night fighting but I'm not too keen on the tweaked starts. What files should I avoid overwriting to keep the starts the same as with EB 1.1?

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I assume you mean stats (hopefully correctly!), if so which stats do you mean?

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I assume you mean stats (hopefully correctly!), if so which stats do you mean?

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I installed the Beta 3 .7z files from the front page of this thread and it changed the starting cash and unit makup of the map. For example Hayasdan started with 40k, 8 gold armour / chevron heavy cavalry with 0 maintenance. Any idea how I can just keep the gameplay changes and be able to keep to the classic campaign?

The only thing that is added in the descr_start.txt (beside the enabled night battles) are the Night battle traits, for at least one FMember in every faction, so that you can enjoj night fights at the start of the game with some generals..

note: many players were not ''that good'' (If I may say it that way) in getting their generals to be Very Good Commanders which would lead to the enabled night battle Traits (to be able to get that trait you need to be really good or you need to have some older generals, in any case you need much time :shrug: ). For example ... in EB only Pyrrhos is able to 'try' to fight at night and no one else :shrug:

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Originally Posted by Dr Octo

I installed the Beta 3 .7z files from the front page of this thread and it changed the starting cash and unit makup of the map. For example Hayasdan started with 40k, 8 gold armour / chevron heavy cavalry with 0 maintenance. Any idea how I can just keep the gameplay changes and be able to keep to the classic campaign?

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You should play EB 11 with the transition files only... not the beta mod :shrug:

In any case that mod is for EB 10 not EB 11 :yes:

I went out and bought the Alexander expansion pack on wednesday. I'm going back home tomorrow (from University for summer), so i'll be able to try it out. I was impressed by the improvements mentioned and I want the best possible experience on EB since I haven't had a chance to go on it in a long time.

Thanks for the instructions and for telling me about it in the first place.

:beam: Cheers

I just got Alex and was lookign forward to starting a new campaign. Is there a quick ad dirty way to allow EB 1.1 to function on Alex? I don't use a modd switcher, and would LIKE to use night battles if possible.

also, if you're playing RTW and Alex Gold, what patches do you need to install?

Oh, yes, yes there is a quick way ))

And if you use Gold you dont need patches at all :)

NOTE:
To play Europa Barbarorum using Alexander expansion you need to install RTW that is 1.5 patched and working and then installed ALEXANDER add-on that is also working (without EB)!
Then Install EB + all known fixes for EB and then play it with Alex.exe
For those who just want to COPY- PASTE the uploaded tweaked files (that enable instant game without any manual tweaks) in their EB folders - follow the download link bellow. But remember - you still need to change the EB.exe target line of the EB shortcut as explained bellow! NOTE: these files are only for safe transition to ALX.exe engine (these are not the part of the Alexander EB Team Mod - still, all mod's will have these files included in along with all official fixes) ::

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http://files.filefront.com/EB11+on+A.../fileinfo.html
http://www.zshare.net/download/104019788e3b95be/

If you don't have ''7z'' archiver (which you need to unpack the files) you can download it for free here: http://www.7-zip.org/

So does it include the optimised script now?

nah .. :grin:

you can do it manually no time :smash:

Just a quick thank you for you guys porting EB to Alex.

The battle field AI is so much superior to RTW and BI it just does not bear comparison.

I love the fact that if I am now defending a town I cannot just plonk a phalanx on main street and wait for the enemy to impale themselves. The attackers spread out and come down almost all the approaches to the town center.

When attacking a town they tend to keep people out of range of my missile units while I batter down the wall.

The best one was a bridge battle where I was attacking, they deployed up a hill away from the bridge with a skirmisher heavy army, I had less men but thought the AI is dumb enough just to let me cross. Instead they ran their skirmishers forward, killed all my light troops, ran back and waited for me to attack with my now couple of phalanx's and cavalry which would have been suicide so I legged it.

The AI completly out thought my (admittedly lazy) tactics and could not be happier about. Even if it does make me a simpleton.

Thanks

in case I want to go back to the original RTW.exe how would I be able to do that???:dizzy2:

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in case I want to go back to the original RTW.exe how would I be able to do that???:dizzy2:

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You must reinstall RTW

what about MP ??

Alexander: Total War