Unvote: Glenn Vote: molonthegreat
What in the blue cadwollops is going on here?
I say.. I've been away for one quarter of a day.. Alot of things went down!
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Unvote: Glenn Vote: molonthegreat
What in the blue cadwollops is going on here?
I say.. I've been away for one quarter of a day.. Alot of things went down!
Too late Glenn, voting has already concluded an hour and a half ago.
Yes Glenn you were tied with pevergreen and may escape justice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rythmic
You mean I might receive justice.
Could be either - depends on what Kommo is thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Where do you post from, Glenn?
Only if justice means a Guillotine. À la Bastille!Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
Actually, it doesn't. It's out of my hands now. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
G'night everybody! :Zzzz:
(Game Thread Post #729)
"Where is that Yankee ingenuity
Somebody told me how the motion picture would end
I turned and glared at them
And then I read the way the world was going to end
With a whimpering sound, not a banging away
I'm sorry I gave it away
I want a big surprise tonite
A really big surprise tonite"
-- Sparks
Sunset, Day Two
Kommodus gaveled the committee to silence. The voting session had been long and contentious, with claims and arguments bouncing around the room for more than an hour before the ballots were called for.
“I have counted the votes and that vote has been witnessed by three of the officers detailed to us by Chief Fermanagh. Having received,...”
Glenn, who’d been standing alone in the lavatory for 20 minutes stepped out into the room, his face pale and drawn, but quietly defiant. Kommodus paused and surveyed the now silent assembly.
“…Having received more votes than any other, it is the sentence of the Committee of Vigilance for Fatlington that pevergreen is to be executed.”
Glenn had just inhaled in preparation for one last defiant statement. He paused, visibly stunned at the change of events.
So was pevergreen. “That’s ludicrous!…”
Other voices broke in “It was a tie…he switched his vote late…wanted them both...what do you mean you abstained?!…”
“Count those slips again,” shouted pevergreen, “this is impossible.”
Somewhat stunned himself by the turn of events, Kommodus agreed to a re-count. This one was conducted with both Glenn and pevergreen physically restrained by Fermanagh’s muscle.
By one vote it would be Pevergreen who would die.
Kommodus led him to the table he’d prepared – or so he’d thought –- for Glenn. A sumptuous meal of fine steak, succulent lobster, exquisitely sauced summer vegetables and a perfectly sweetened cobbler of Jersey peaches for dessert. The wines accompanying each dish were of good quality – one of the finest restaurants in town had provided them – and much better than pevergreen had ever drunk.
To his credit, pevergreen worked at enjoying every morsel – offering a bite to any who wanted to enjoy the rich flavors. No one did. He commented on the flavor, and managed to down each bottle provided with its respective course.
Each course was laced with a progressively higher dose of strychnine. Fortunately for pevergreen, the wine had dulled the onset of the poisoning symptoms. The pain produced by each progressively harsher seizure was also lessened, so his groans were minimal. He had lost consciousness entirely before the grand mal seizure that killed him struck.
Somberly, the Committee adjourned, each member leaving the chamber to seek their own dinner. They stepped out into a steamy, moonless night, the air strangely still but charged with the energy of an impending storm. Nobody expected a restful night.
OOC
Wild one. nn's vote was technically late, but not decisive. Charge corrected me in post #615 as to his vote and Moros' abstention (which I read when I returned from work). I think the "tie" efforts were off after this.
Night PMs need to be in to me no later than 2330 EST 8 Feb 8.
I’ll wrap up the night summary as quickly as my weekend schedule allows. I’m projecting Day three to run from then until about 1400 EST on 10 Feb 8. We’ll try to keep to 24 hour sessions from there.
Final Vote Tally for Day Two session:
Glenn = 20 (Beefy187, Big King Sanctaphrax, Brave Sir Robin, Crazed Rabbit, Elite Ferret, Glenn, Hannibalbarc, Husar, Ichigo, Joe Monks, Kagemusha, Kamikhaan, Kukrikhan, norwegian nerd*, pevergreen, Rythmic, Sigurd Fafnesbane, Tiberius of the Drake, Xehh II, & Xiahou)
Abstain = 11 (Alexander the Pretty Good, Chimpyang, Cowhead418, FactionHeir, Haudegan, Ironside, johnhughthom, Moros, Northnovas, Twilightblade, Xdeathfire)
Pevergreen = 21 (ajaxfetish, Charge, CountArach, Craterus, GeneralHankerchief, JimBob, LittleGrizzly, Louis VI the Fat, Lt. Pinard, Makayane, Myrddraal, Pannonian, Proletariat, Sasaki Kojiro, Sarathos, scottishranger, The Stranger, TinCow, TruePraetorian, woad&fangs, Zorg)
Singles = 4 [Beefy187 (Shlin28), GeneralHankerchief (Omanes Alexandrapolites), molonthegreat (Tran), Sigurd Fafnesbane (Andres)].
Not Voting = 22 (Caeser the III, Caius, Draco Leman, Dutch_guy, Evil_Maniac from Mars, Fahad I, gibsonsg91921, Hiji, Jubal_Barca, Killfr3nzy, Kommodus {not allowed}, Leet Erikson, Lord Winter, molonthegreat, Motep, Roadkill, Rob_the_Celt, sapi, taka, Warluster, Warmaster Horus, x-dANGEr)
Dead = 1 (Drisos)
.............................
OH - MY - GOD!
I WILL EDIT THIS!
JimBob.. and others - you have almost certainly put yourselves in the firing line, by god, it is so telling of how great the teamwork really was behind the scenes that you could save me like this.
I have determined even more clearly who is innocent and who is not by viewing the responses.
How many innocent people were willing to believe Pannonian's logic, and how few simply wanted me dead.
I really don't know what to type.. I really don't know how I'm going to survive the night - but I survived the day, didn't I?
Now that I can be a part of my role again.. I can help my comrades wield the sword I spoke of - for the people I spoke of. I may not have the most powerful pro-town role, but with time our strength will grow.
I thought speaking so freely of my actual role itself would only lead to the Mafia killing me anyway, so I gave out all the information and speculation I had, and hoped it would be enough.
Then I left to get on with my real work as I thought I was dead.
I apologise to Louis VI the Fat. I renounce every suspicion of him.
I also apologise to The Stranger, and everything I did to put him in the guise of Mafia.
I am very relieved, not only that I live, but that by Jimbob's heroic efforts, and in return the efforts of those he contacted, and Pannonian, that they not only saved me but they also brought the Townies closer together, that we may work as a township and not against each other!
Pevergreen.. For my part, I believed you innocent. You had strange intentions. But I think there may of been a mistake made in his death.
I don't mean to be ingrateful - but I must announce my uncertainty in his guilt.
Thank you, those who believed my cavalry, my supports - I can now return to my role - at least until the morning.
Glenn - realise now that you shouldn't be alive now - many of us who voted pevergreen also wanted you dead. Don't read too much into the list of people who followed Pann. Not that we don't like you, its just that we still think you are scum.
Why are you suddenly not suspicious of Louis or TS?
Wow..... :drama3:
I really did not see that coming... That said, Pevergreen was someone I truely did not trust and I think that in the case he had bad intentions (whatever he may say) the town is in a better place with his death.
I don't have time to write much more (going to a Chinese new year dinner now) but I will post up some other thoughts when I get back.
I'm still in shock, this game just keeps getting more and more crazy.
Why am I not suspicious of Louis or TS?
Because they went from threatening to kill me to saving my life for no apparent reason... Just like Night 1.
Did Seamus not tell me something??
Then again, alot of people went from trying to have me killed to wanting me alive.. You have not idea how grateful I am, I shall return the favour for as long as I'm alive.
Which might not be long.
Fixed it for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
You'll probably be lynched tomorrow along with Jimbob.
Partially depends on whether you survive the night and whether we get access to relevant investigation reports.
Ajax
Thats a very good point. Be fearful Glenn, fearful of your life. But BL to pevergreen, stuff happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaxfetish
Happy W&F?
Next time leave personal grudges out of mafia games. If you dont like me **** * ****.
I beefy although knowing it is probebly late testifies that, Pevers intention was pure and terribly misunderstood. :sweatdrop:
He got what he wanted (Die famous) and it is a shame that I couldnt came any earlier.
If there is anyone who still wants to make docter groups please contact me.
and ill remind you again. Good luck because you need them if you want to kill me:beam:
I tried to go through back channels because I didn't want to reveal myself to everyone and draw fire. I fear I may be attacked tonight. Would a detective reveal on the first day, unless there was another option?Quote:
JimBob first tryed to keep Glenn alive by pm'ing pever and asking not to vig-kill him. He only revealed in the thread when he had no choice. An investigation would reveal all however, so we may as well wait for that.
Quote:
Further - remember Kommodus that if their role were entirely in red, it is unlikely that they would be able to tell everyone IT IS ENTIRELY IN RED.
The fact that it is not in red is not in red. Seamus hasn't had a problem with it so far (to my knowledge). My understanding is that the rules mean we cannot tell details. I'm trying to be round about and vague. I hope this is in the spirit of the rules.Quote:
Not to mention that jimbob told us several things about their "roles", despite the fact that they apparently aren't allowed to reveal anything about it.
Glenn has been broadcasting from the beginning. His user title included. I showed up for the first time on the 7th, I'd been sick in RL and away from the computer. I came back to find on of my partners, and then discover him on the chopping block. I went into over drive to pull him out because we had no idea who our third was. I started working them in quickly.Quote:
JimBob and Glenn, were you using those 2 instances pann pointed out to communicate?
See also: Post 10
We've got special rules. I can't say more.Quote:
Btw Jimbob and Glenn, what's your story as to how glenn survived the killing group?
I'd like to apologize to pever. I've got to save my own comrades, so we can do what we need to. It'll come out for the town.
I hope so. Thats what I was gunning for.
TBH, If I had been convinced by Jimbob or Glenn, my plan to stop their lynch was get myself lynched.
what he was doing was just getting you sympathy / protection (whether deliberately or not), your own moves are the ones that caused suspicion.Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
you're not really trying to pull the idea that this was self sacrifice are you? :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
This was not self-sacrifice, but Pevergreen was willing to help if he could be convinced of my innocence.
Considering the fact I had being supplying so much detail with his name, I could not blame him for despising me.
As I have said, I feel Pevergreen was innocent, Wise-guy or Townie, who was either at first being recruited into the Mafia, and trying to win, "Brownie Points", or he was simply trying to organise as many people as possible under his power - which is valid due to his apparent nature and attitude.
He wanted to be on top of things.
It wasnt Sacrifice as Glenn noted.
I went too active and tried to get more people on my side. Bad move.
whahahahhahahah!!!!! TIHAAA!!
2. Here is where information as to any whacky individual characteristics will go. They will NOT be for sharing with any other player, but may provide you some advantage. ANY information in RED on your rolesheets is to be held in strict confidence and NOT shared in any manner during the game without the express prior consent of the Game host. You have been warned. Save it for your post-game write up.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBob
So your custom title is "The blade" and Glenn's mentions the axe. Now, what's up with this:Quote:
Glenn has been broadcasting from the beginning. His user title included. I showed up for the first time on the 7th, I'd been sick in RL and away from the computer. I came back to find on of my partners, and then discover him on the chopping block. I went into over drive to pull him out because we had no idea who our third was. I started working them in quickly.
See also: Post 10
Here Glenn says that he is the blade. On the other hand post 10 would actually be a reasonable breadcrumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
I'll take that as a compliment, Sasaki, you will note that in my last words I used all three codes, and the sword was not a reference to blade.
Good to have you alive. Hopefully the town won't be as ignorant next round and you may continu to live.
Now, I can't see why so many people still don't thrust you. Okay maybe it may not be too convincing if you didn't know the words.
We have a lot to talk about now, as I know I can thrust you and jb. Do you two have msn? Cause it's always good to have someone you can ctually thrust. Cause who knows what darkness lies in the heart of men?
Sorry, no MSN - my internet is unreliable anyway - it keeps blinking off and giving me, "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage" everynow and then.
So anything that continually uses the internet is futile.
I'm glad someone will thrust me though.
Ha ha, by the way, I think it was you who I subtly mocked when I start using the word, "Pression", thinking it was a spelling mistake - ha ha, I got harshly interrogated over this, but didn't respond as this was around the time Sasaki was picking and twisting my words.
I forgive you Sasaki, and you'll no doubt do it again tomorrow.
You mean mafia will target them? Naturally; but I'm sure they got their own protection groups till end of the game already, so it wont help...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
So if Glenn/JimBob/Drisos are pro-town, then pretty much of mafiosos screwed up themselves already ~D
Notes from host:
RULE CHANGE:
1. Following an excellent suggestion from Makanyane, I am instituting immediately the following rule:
You may NOT EDIT your votes/selections. Feel free to edit the remainder of any such post as you wish. However, to alter your selection/vote you MUST make a new post.
This is, of course, to minimize confusion and allow a reasonably diligent player to track the votes for herself without requiring a complete review of all posts for that phase each and every time, which would represent an unreasonable burden. Thank you.
2. The mention of the presence of Red text in one's role PM is not, of itself, a contravention of the required confidentiality. How valuable that is, of itself, is a separate question. Quotation, specific references, or detailed allusion to the material therein are not permissable. SO FAR, no one has crossed the line (though at least 4 players have made indirect allusions). Please keep it that way.
Note: This whole thing has been a lot of fun thus far. "Curioser and curioser, said Alice."
I wasn't part of the axe-blade-crown-stuff. I was born regular detective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charge
Mention: I do NOT trust Andres.
I hope you're right about the protection groups lol.
Anyway I think that most who'll vote for Glenn or JimBob. Will show to be ignorant of mafia. Funny that 20 votes went to Glenn this time. That's about the Mafia size. Though I can understand those that voted for Glenn previous round. Especially those who voted ealry and haven't been able to keep track.
We actually have a few arguments that show Glenn and the others are innocent. Whereas most players even don't. Yet Glenn is 'suspected' this much. I'm starting to wander, what reason they have for wanting to get Glen lynched. Even Seamus told us indirectly that Glenn indeed is a crusader. Glenn couldn't have said too much about the red text in his pm while talking about the crusaders and his role pm, if he wasn't a crusader.
Okay, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaxfetish
What's interesting though is how you "check your inbox constantly" for incoming PMs, or at least that's what you say you do.
Why, though? In every forum skin but one (PDA) there is the little PM notifier on the upper-right corner of every single page on the forum. Checking one's inbox constantly is not necessary to determine whether a new PM has come or not.
It's more likely that it was a quickly-fabricated excuse in order to get out of the jam that Rhythmic was putting you in.
I may be way off-base here, but the question is: Who were you PMing?
when will the identity of drisos be revealed?
I believe he said he was a detective.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stranger
that is what he says... i know... but what will seamus say...
At the beginning of night four.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stranger
On another note, why are you so curious to know? Are you trying to gauge how long your family has left, or is the reason a little less sinister?
I also want to hear a little more from GH, who so far has totally ignored my demand for answers. Why this selective notice GH?
the reason is less sinister... he can rally the town...
It's odd that you think that TS - didn't he claim that you were associated with Sigurd (who was, according to his knowledge, a Don). I'm exceptionally confused by your logic.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stranger
What selective notice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites
In this context it is used to define an individual who only notices what they want to notice, and completely ignores everything else. I would have said selective hearing, but that isn't really appropriate under these circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
I should have made myself more clear - sorry ~:(
he said that... later he claimed im innocent... i trust him he trusts me...Quote:
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandrapolites
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pannonian
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=465Quote:
Originally Posted by Omanes
I agree with Omanes, GH is using the Glenn-Jimbob-Pever mess, and now harping on ajaxfetish about his forum skin to avoid any serious scrutiny on his suspect activity early on.
There is the pm notifier, however it only updates if I refresh a page (at least I'm pretty sure that's how it works), and with long pages of text in the main thread to work through, I keep my pm inbox open on another tab. And every so often I switch over to it and refresh to see if anything's changed. I think I'm a little excitable since this is my first game: usually there's nothing new. I get the same way with tracking packages online sometimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Ajax
The identities of the dead are revealed on the 3rd morning following their death. E.G. Murdered Night One, Role Revealed at BEGINNING of Day 4 (a.k.a. night 3 wrap up).
Good. If he appears to be a detective. He can be the central point of information for the pro-town team.
sorry if this is wrong thread but as convo is here and I got confused at some stage... Is that the same for lynched, eg do we get more details on pevergreen's role?Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
would also be good to know why he apparently change mind about some stuff though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Moros
we will get info about pevergreen at the end of day 4... then i guess..
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Makanyane
But if he wants to score points and still wants to win, dead or not, he should be hounest.
Yes. As to how informative you find it.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Makanyane
I don't know; what do you want me to say? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Omanes Alexandropolites
:laugh4:
That you are a don, and that you know for sure who the other mafiosi and families are, and wo they are...
So are you saying that the entirety of both mafia families voted for Glenn for no other reason than they know he is not in their family? We could make the same argument for pevergreen. Really I am wondering why you are so keen to defend Glenn at the expense of everyone who voted for him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Moros
What part of he is a crusader don't you get?
The part where he is a crusader...Quote:
Originally Posted by Moros
The part where he continues to act in an anti-Town fashion...
The part where he continues to deceive the town...
Why is he a crusader? Blade, axe and crown could mean anything, like cultists, stonemasons, weaponsmiths, monarchists, anything really :dizzy2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Moros
What exactly is a crusader anyways, and why are we assuming that he is one.Quote:
Originally Posted by shlin28
All I know is that a crusader was normally in the Crusades, but I think we are a couple of centuries of here, so yea...
Is it a special role?Or just something people like to claim to be?
i think it is a nick people made up for a certain group or role...
The correct term would be Masons.
The info Seamus posts is only showing role. eg:
pevergreen - Wise Guy
The Stranger - Made Gangster
It doesnt tell you anything more than that, so no family information.
Here's the summary thread for Capo 1. An example of a post-mortem.
Quote:
“Alright, me lads…pardon, my officers have been working hard to follow up on our deceased and determine what we could. I have happy news to report. You got one! Kralizec looked squeaky clean on the surface, but rummaging through his accounts and effects we realize that he was another Al Capone – you lynched the Don, the leader, of one of these despicable gangs. Hizzoner may really have come up with a way for Fatlington to live, and you’ve all done your part. Well done folks, well done…”
A short pause.
“Stig too was a criminal. We’d had indications before this, but nothing conclusive. There was, however, nothing to connect him to one of the predatory gangs, so our current theory is that he wouldn’t play ball so he was taken for a ride – well, in his case a bad dinner.”
"Our other losses were, according to all we can find out, both innocent townsmen who committed suicide under the stress of things. Ichigo was distraught for some time, facing turmoil at home, and this appears to have driven him to flights of fancy. He claimed to have attempted a murder, failed at it, and apparently…er…lost his way. Tribesman had enemies – anyone who chatted politics with him would confirm that. They would tell you he knew all the tricks: puns, metaphor, dramatic irony even….sarcasm. Despite which he calmly and deliberately drank himself to death."
"I hope you can continue your previous success today and continue to root out these scum. Good luck.”
Tell Seamus, not me. :egypt:Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
So, I herd you were scum. What do you think about that?Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Whoever told you that was wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
are you saying im a made? and on what do you base that... well mades show up criminal dont they... have any detective screen me and im 100% sure ill show up innocent...Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
Eg.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stranger
Edit: Bad conscience, TS?
The way you're playing tends to make me lean more towards believing them than you.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
no... not at all...
I also heard GH was scum... heck... I even told GH he was scum...
Good for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ichigo
They're still wrong.
A day and there are 7 pages. How can i particiapte if I can't even keep up.
Don't expect to live long acting like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
Do what I do. Pay attention to the corner of the Capo world you know about and skim over the rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoadKill
For me that means I look at posts either by or about myself, Pevergreen, Pannonian, Glenn, Sarathos, Makanyane, Crazed Rabbit, and CountArach. I've been in contact with all of them about various things behind the scenes at one point or another. I skim over the rest and just get the general gist of them.
Why were you in contact with Glenn? Did I miss something earlier?
Yes, you silly billy goat, Woad&Fangs was the very first to PM me about a doctor group.
Gee gollydrops CountArach, you can't be a detective!
He was one of the people I originally contacted about forming a doctor group and possibly vigilanting Pever. Then he ratted me out to Pever. That's my connection with him.
Lots of people have been in contact with lots of people. This is the Capo early game we're talking about here. I've had a few friendly communications with pevergreen, the round before I called for him to be lynched. I've had a few friendly communications with Glenn too, and a few not so friendly ones. People cast around for contacts in the early game, then probe them to see what info they can get from them. It's only later that firm networks are formed after some basis of trustworthiness has been established.Quote:
Originally Posted by CountArach
:huh: I'd expect you to be a little more serious...Quote:
Originally Posted by Glenn
You act serious, you're suspicious, you joke around, you're in despair, and you're also suspicious.
Really, it was just a post to say, "CountArach, you're probing at nothing - oh, and I'm still here!".
On an actually serious game note;
Alot of people have voiced the suspicion of GeneralHankerchief.
In fact, so many PMs are shooting around about him it's like a celebrity scandal.
Your name is getting very popular behind the scenes General, so could you or anyone else give evidence to suggest why or why not you may be a very shadowy character?
So Glenn, you say that your role can investigate someone during the nightphase, correct?