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I dunno if Atheotes makes sense, his behaviour hasn't really felt like it had a cohesive plan behind it. Could be a mafia who decided that lone wolfing it would be a good idea, but you could also be a mafia jumping on the sheep that strayed from the herd. I will hold back for now, the lynching of a mafia has removed some of the stress from this game for me.
I tracked atheotes to Generalhankerchief and Riedquat's locations.
Had I actually tracked anyone else, I would have seen absolutely nothing, and I said I was going to track Al sips, and then alluded to possibly being pocketed by GH. I wanted to confirm whether atheotes was the doctor or GH was the jailkeeper. One of them is always scum.
Even if atheotes suspected I'd be tracking him, I was already siding with GH. If I tracked his partner, I'd have falsely cleared atheotes' partner for being inactive. They have the ability to double up actions, just like Riedquat did.
Vote: atheotes
This means all my other tracking data doesn't prove anything, unfortunately.
You can say none of them were the mafia roleblocker specifically, that's all. If they weren't murdering, that doesn't mean they aren't scum.
If anyone is on the fence, recall that atheotes only soft-counterclaimed GH when GH claimed, he voted GH for a while, then he suggested he was a 1 shot doctor, then changed that story, then suggested GH was town after trying to get him lynched after saying GH had to be scum based on his claim, and UncleDynamited himself last night by suggesting any possibility of a dp101 and Al Sipsclar mafia team, something that's impossible unless the mafia blew a sure win.
This is not a man who is solving, and it really shouldn't even take tracking data to prove it. The proof is in the thread.
Hard counter to GH's claim means no explanation for why atheotes is still alive after GH dies a couple of nights ago.
Thus they had to roleblock him and keep him alive. But if Riedquat lives, he finds another threat. Can't block GH and kill Pizza, and pizza's on the verge of accidentally clearing someone falsely anyway.
With a soft counterclaim, if GH gets lynched, he can bluff a 1 shot something or other, and there's no urgency to his being NK if he's town.
A hard counterclaim is how town-atheotes challenges GH there. He went soft, and thus, is not a hard-shelled Zoidberg after all.
If atheotes was town, he should have been protecting Riedquat as well. Anyone else wouldn't have cleared him.
Especially if he thought GH or I were actually scum. Losing a vanilla townie only reduces the number of mislynches in play, so there's no reason to protect any of them.
He wouldn't be protecting Al, he thought Al was scum. Protecting dp101 doesn't make sense if he thinks Al is scum. Between dp101 and Riedquat, one of them has a protecting and investigating power. The choice should have been really simple.
Wait, so your tracking power tells you everywhere they have ever been? Or did they go two places in one night?Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
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Originally Posted by Dp101
2 places, one night. I don't get histories.
Ok, is there something I'm missing or isn't that impossible? I thought you could only do one night action?Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I only get one night action. But if someone goes two places instead of just one place, I wouldn't only get half the data.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dp101
Which half would the game host give? If I tracked Riedquat this game to two places, I'd see him at both locations.
I'm the guy with one night action, atheotes has two.
For the record, any game where anyone has two night actions is highly unusual for this board. I'm not even going to claim this has happened more than once or twice ever.
Interesting. :pop2:
thanks for getting rid of Quat so that we can actually afford a mislynch. Thanks for outing yourself as scum Pizza. Pretty impressive that you and Monty were going at each other...it seemed genuine.
what is your plan after i flip town? wondering what kind of yarn you will spin. More importantly, who is your partner? Confident that they can win it for your team?
I know Pizza is not going to answer any of these questions. But it is for the rest of the town to figure if i get lynched.
Please make your case.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
I find it baffling that you'd make the same mistake twice.
Atheotes, if you were town, there are no more mislynches. You have to pretend that you're town when you tell lies.
Guy, I know there are 4 townies alive. But if you know that there are 4 townies alive besides just you, you're calling yourself scum again.
GG pal.
@Pelican - you need to vote today. if you dont you are going to lose it for the town.
If it were 2 scums and 5 townies, yeah, we'd have a mislynch.
You could only think there are 5 townies left if you know there are 4 besides you.
wait what? oh..crap. we cant afford a mislynch. I dont know what i was thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
On the contrary. If he's AWOL today, we have exactly the number of votes we need to lynch a scum.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
We could even lose a body today for mysterious god-related reasons and still win.
Here is my unaltered role PM:
I was trying to get the scum to target me on the night with no kill. I dont know if the scum targeted Pelican or me on night with no kill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zack
Pelican is AWOL. Dp has sheeped you all game. GH doesnt seem to be trying at all...it is likely that he is your partner. Al sips has made no effort in the game and he is not going to do so now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
Contrary to what you are claiminig, I have actually accused everyone here except Pelican of being scum. None of them are likely to vote with me. Game over. I lost the game when i did not go hard against you 2 days ago.
I'm good, but go ahead and explain why a 1 time bulletproof counterclaims a jailkeeper, I guess.
I go back to school, so I'll see you guys in 8 hours maybe.
If any of the townies are willing to put the effort, take a careful look at my role pm. go and look back at my actions from the start of potential lylo. and if you have any questions for me i will be answer and we can discuss.
I am not going to address any of Pizza's posts. he is very good at posting mountains of WIFOM. By the time i answer one his posts he would have posted 20 more walls. If iam going to be voted for this reason i dont care.
If @Pelican doesn't vote today, he will be modkilled.
i never CCed. I did not believe GH's claim. so i called it out and voted for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
I only claimed doctor at potential lylo to get myself targeted. After that i played along because i dont get confirmation if i was attacked or not.
Well, at least we know that there is a 50% chance of lynching a mafia today.
My case? Okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by atheotes
It could be because you've had a questionable reaction to my claim and its follow-ups from the very beginning.
It could be because of hard numbers, many of the remaining players in this game are either about to be Wogged or cleared by one source or another.
It could be because Pizza - who is much further up GH's Ladder of Trust (tm) than you - tracked you to first my location (and I was visited at night by somebody) and then Riedquat's location (and he was killed).
It could be because your general overall behavior is off, and not townie, and has been this way for a while.
It could be all of these things put together, the whole being greater than the sum of the parts.
But mostly it's because one of the old Gameroom maxims apparently still holds true:
atheotes is always mafia.