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when you keep saying things and say we're insane for believing them, yet not even yourself can point out the wolfteam, your claim that we're insane and off the tracks is immediately shut down
when nothing else is possible, the only thing remaining, no matter how improbable is the answer.
don't you think wisdom is a wolf? if not, then who is the PoE fypov?
your entire post makes no sense imo
if jan thought benneh was outed wolf, then why not jail him? since he stuck to his word of jailing you
except his word was to jail AND execute you. so why only go halfway if he already committed to 50% of the promise
that's where you being alive is shady
ah fuck you have to jail during the day
visor we're not playing ToS br0 ples
like if maple / wisdom are v/v
then the team looks something like knights / dolby / +1, if not +2
I am giving dolby a bit of space here. Jan and I came to the conclusion that he is ben's most likely partner last night, but frankly I recognize the fact that I am not infallible and that it is a definite possibility that I am just tunneled and my time with jan just reenforced that. I think that his handling of my slot from minute one has been weird, all the way back to our initial interactions. I'm seeing sunbae say that wisdom/dolby appear unpaired so I *am* giving that some consideration, too. In the hypothetical world where dolby is v and i force a dome between us, that's pretty game losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by insomnia
On wisdom, I *really* hope to see something from her today. Like, just getting into a dome with me is pointless, especially if they are village. I haven't seen that so far. Like, there is a potential world of knights/mont+1, something to that affect (this in specific is an odd world cause it involves like a big coordinated push onto ladd d3 which like only works out specifically if they expect jan to go through with murdering me, cause otherwise they are more or less forced to put kp on me at some point during the game. seems like a really unstable manouver, which is why this is one that im not really sure about)
On wisdom getting pretty quickly ganged up on today, like i said its pretty plausible to go for a f5 win in this gamestate, especially depending on the status of whatever kp the wolves have here.
At this moment the most likely wolf team is wisdom/dolby/knights, though I am moments away from looking into what sunbae posted above to see what the unpaired read is about.Quote:
Originally Posted by insomnia
22p with 1 3p the team is at most 5 (the standard ratio for a 21er, with the last slot being some sort of 3p)Quote:
Originally Posted by insomnia
honestly, a dolby / knights team doesn't even sound like a bad guess to me
dunno who would fit as a third though
can you run into deeper details why jan decided not to execute you? he received your card and instantly thought you're a villager, did he describe his thought process as to why he won't do it?
i know you made a post but reading it, i didn't feel like it answered these questions, but if it did then just ignore this post and i'll read it again when i wake up
today is unfortunately gonna be a low effort day for me
I am liking Sunbae's posts today a lot and also think that the vote is unpaired (I don't think that wolves were expecting the chance to snipe ladd at that time)
Thinking that Vanta blacks progression in the hour before EOD is pretty towny. I kinda get the sense reading their posts that they were intending to switch, wheras Benneh's was just opportunism and that difference in motivations I think is unaligning. Think i've said this before?
I'm worried that I'm tunneled on Wisdom but Wisdom has had moments where I feel like they have just pushed in places because they can and not because they believe in them
I think just by POE Monty is just looking worse than he used to but I don't think I go for him, even tomorrow
I'm genuinely at a point where I'm townlocking Ender. Bro please don't vote me let me pocket you :(
But everything I've seen from him day three and day four just feels like town him and imo he's pretty unpairred from benneh
yeah, was thinking that it was strictly possible (though obviously unlikely, dya was always my top villager) that wolves had figured out that Rask was a 3p somehow and claimed to get the 3p out and a false clear out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunbae
can't blame people for pushing dolby/knights/wisdom. Right now I'm at monty/knights/wisdom but I'm concerned that I'm misclearing someone, the problem is where because if it isn't maple everyone looks pretty damn towny. Like, my weakest v reads are gemma and vanta and situationally both just don't feel like wolves. Dya is clear, Insom and Ender look incredibly towny to me. Sunbae and grr are pretty fine
sunbae i straight up think that benneh voted wisdom, regardless of wisdom's alignment, because thread sentiment was clearly heading in that direction
tbh regretting not looking deeper into knights on day three, I wanted to give him a post birthday pass lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by insomnia
eh real talk I kinda felt that he was towny enough d1 and that if he wanted to coast post birthday he could as long as he picked it up
I think that Jan would have considered a ladd v flashwagon a extenuating circumstance so I don't really feel like this is a case of "wolves roleblocked Jan!" because of it
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Originally Posted by insomnia
The long and short of it is he more or less said (not a real quote) "the village that got ladd killed can fuck off and the card you gave me seems legit, so I'm letting you live".
He gave me some speculation on who he thinks the inverter is (not ender), but I'm not gonna air that for now because if he is correct I am pretty confident that the person in question is village.
Thought ben swapping was outing, vanta swapping was weird, and that dolby seemed wolfy both at eod and throughout the day. That his pushes throughout the day seemed agenda-y. If the vote was going to end up on me, he was going to target benneh, apparently. Tho, he targeted me to increase the odds of us having a *real* eod, and because realistically i could gift him something that is like confirmably villagery (for example a vest).
oh that parenthetical does not inspire confidenceQuote:
Originally Posted by insomnia
I'm probably about to go read benneh again for spew. But he can be hard to read spew from
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Originally Posted by Maple
your words dont make sense boss
jan thinks ladd wagon is basically pushed by wolves if he thinks dolby and benneh are wolves, he knows vanta is newer so he's not going to be vindictive about them
who'd he town read? dya and grr? so he's giving the middle finger to village bc he didnt like their votes on ladd?
i can believe jan was pissed about ladd going over, i'd be surprised if he wasn't
idt he'd play anti wincon bc of it
benneh spew the thoughts:
He kind of softballs to dolby a bit in the earlier posts and agrees with him pretty early, too.
post 1641 feels too overexplainy to be a partner, so that looks good for sunbae
I noted he hedged on ladd and jan and he kind of hedges a lot on maple, too
1671 another softball to dolby. it doesn't feel pockety to me
probably not a hot take but the way he wigged out about spelling enderwiggin is probably not w/w. also he talks about ender the way he talks about jan
the pushes on wisdom are kind of gentle, too
he's very explanatory of monte, too. probably a decent look for monte
ben tries to tie ladd to wisdom which probably makes it v/w (post 1774)
more reasons ender is town, he really pushes hard against the ender v reads from arctic
the maple push is stronger than i remembered - he calls out the self resolving a few times
man benneh really tried to pocket sunbae
man his poe is all villager, wisdom, and maple. It's making me not want to vote either of them. i'd be shocked if there's no wolf in his town lean section
post 2339saying these guys were all villagers makes me think there's at least one in knights/montyQuote:
me/sheep for one
knights/monty seems ~likely too (or i'm wrong)
maple said he didnt activate his pgo the night arctic died but benneh kept pushing that narrative. really makes me think they're unaligned. I feel like w/w would mean benneh would know manti's claims better
feel better about maple, worse about dolby
better about wisdom, worse about knights and monte
much better about sunbae
I don't get what you don't get, honestly. What's anti-wincon about that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemma
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Originally Posted by dyachei
https://media.tenor.com/b8kaChXH7sgA...-spongebob.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
any questions?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemma
@Sunbae what do you think?
jan said he would kill you unless he had something mech confirmable for village to act on (we dont)Quote:
Originally Posted by Maple
jan is not the type of person to just say things and not do them
after he made that post, 0% chance jan believes that we're just gonna go with u being a villager bc u say he said so
i dont know jan particularly well, but imo he would kill you even if he personally thought u were v when he knows theres a village full of people who want to kill and would need to waste a yeet on you
not using village kp on a consensus poe slot out of spite is kinda antiwincon imo
but wolves couldn't have blocked Jan because Jan had a day actionQuote:
Originally Posted by Gemma
creating the hood is a day actionQuote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
killing at night is not
idk if that's blockable though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gemma
why wouldnt it beQuote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
well the thing is it happens because manti is isolated. So it's possible that all the actions within the jailing are isolated from other actionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Gemma
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Originally Posted by Jan
Vote: MapleQuote:
Originally Posted by Jan
im not moving imo
vote: knights
sounds bastardQuote:
Originally Posted by dyachei
Well, hopefully the game doesn't go to lylo.