Europa Barbarorum fourm game

Quote:

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Originally Posted by QwertyMIDX

That's probably because all empires are exploitative and oppressive.

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Isn't that the whole point of creating an empire? So you can exploit the conquered and improve the status of 'your' people, and also to make yourself a powerful man?

Anyway men, it's been a pleasure but i was up early today and after a hard days conquering, tis time for me to make one last march up the wooden hills to bedfordshire...

New day arrives

Romani +1
Averni -1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Arverni: 4
Baktria: 13
Casse: 13
Epeiros: 22
Getai: 15
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 9
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 17
Romani: 19
Sweboz: 12

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Dayve

Surely not just the city of Rome benefitted from having an empire? The cities conquered were given all the technological advancements they lacked, like sewers and aquaducts and that good stuff... The quality of life must have improved with this in the conquered lands...

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If you look at what colonalism in 1500-1900 did to colonized regions you can see same pattern what romans did for their conquered regions. Rome exploited conquered countries same way as european countries later in Africa, America, India and far east.

Rome considered themself as superior to conquered nations and it was mainly explotation of these lands what romans did. Of course some development happened in these regions, but it was only if romans got some benefit from it.

Casse -1
Epeiros +1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Arverni: 4
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 23
Getai: 15
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 9
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 17
Romani: 19
Sweboz: 12

Dayve help me take Averni out and I'll help you with (insert faction)

Romani -1
Iberia +1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Arverni: 4
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 23
Getai: 15
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 10
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 17
Romani: 18
Sweboz: 12

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Dayve

Isn't that the whole point of creating an empire? So you can exploit the conquered and improve the status of 'your' people, and also to make yourself a powerful man?

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Sure, and that why empires suck for the people who aren't running them. The Romans weren't a particularly awful empire (at least for their time period), but all empires are pretty awful.

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Arverni: 4
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 23
Getai: 15
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 10-1=9
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 17
Romani: 18+1=19
Sweboz: 12

Getai +1
Arverni -1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Arverni: 3
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 23
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 9
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 17
Romani: 19
Sweboz: 12

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Arverni: 3-1=2
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 23
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 9
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 17
Romani: 19+1=20
Sweboz: 12

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Arverni: 2
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 23
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 9
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 17+1=18
Romani: 20-1=19
Sweboz: 12

Averni -1
Romani +1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Arverni: 1
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 23
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 9
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 18
Romani: 20
Sweboz: 12

Romani-1
Qarthadast+1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Arverni: 1
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 23
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 9
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 19
Romani: 19
Sweboz: 12

Arverni -1
Ptolemaioi +1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Arverni: 0
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 23
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 9
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 19
Romani: 19
Sweboz: 12

Romani -1
Epeiros +1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Arverni: 0
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 24
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 9
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 19
Romani: 18
Sweboz: 12

Romani+1
Makedonia-1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 24
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 9
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 14
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 19
Romani: 19
Sweboz: 12

Epeiros+1
Getai-1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 25
Getai: 15
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 9
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 14
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 19
Romani: 19
Sweboz: 12

Sorry Stalin i was in bed until now, Averni is already gone. Although i'll help you kill off another faction, you just keep voting for the Romani. :2thumbsup:

Anybody else that wants to join this alliance, speak now! :laugh4:

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 25
Getai: 15 +1 = 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 9 -1 = 8
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 14
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 19
Romani: 19
Sweboz: 12

Easiest to concentrate on the weakest ones first. The empire building starts here

I agree.

Iberia-
Romani+

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 25
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 7
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 14
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 19
Romani: 20
Sweboz: 12

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 25 -1=24
Getai: 16 +1=17
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 7
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 14
Ptolemaioi: 13
Qarthadast: 19
Romani: 20
Sweboz: 12

Iberia+
Romani-

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 25
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 8
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 14
Ptolemaioi: 13
Romani: 19
Qarthadast: 19
Sweboz: 12

Makedonia+
KH-

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 25
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 8
Koinon Hellenon: 14
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Romani: 19
Qarthadast: 19
Sweboz: 12

Romani +1
Epeiros -1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 24
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 8
Koinon Hellenon: 14
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Romani: 20
Qarthadast: 19
Sweboz: 12

Romani -1
Epeiros +1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Baktria: 13
Casse: 12
Epeiros: 25
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 8
Koinon Hellenon: 14
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Romani: 19
Qarthadast: 19
Sweboz: 12

Casse -1
Koinon Hellenon +1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Baktria: 13
Casse: 11
Epeiros: 25
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 8
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Romani: 19
Qarthadast: 19
Sweboz: 12

Qarthadast +1
Romani -1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Baktria: 13
Casse: 11
Epeiros: 25
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 11
Iberia: 8
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Romani: 18
Qarthadast: 20
Sweboz: 12

Epeiros +1
Hayasdan -1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Baktria: 13
Casse: 11
Epeiros: 26
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 8
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Romani: 18
Qarthadast: 20
Sweboz: 12

Lookie-lookie the spanish are weak....

Romani +1
Iberia -1

Aedui: 11
Arche Seleukeia: 12
Baktria: 13
Casse: 11
Epeiros: 26
Getai: 16
Hayasdan: 10
Iberia: 7
Koinon Hellenon: 15
Makedonia: 15
Ptolemaioi: 13
Romani: 19
Qarthadast: 20
Sweboz: 12