City Mod

Thanks, that answered my questions.

as for questions 4 and 5, I removed them and forgot to renumber 6. I figured out those obviously, but can not remember what they were. ha.

I assumed that problems would arise with old game saves, so whenever I plan on starting a new faction, I'll make sure to apply this mod. Unfortunately, I'm working at the one I'm on.

I'll check out the file to see the changes per city, but which building bonuses are changed, if you can list those? I can figure it out after adding the mod, which I guess may add to the experience.

Thanks again. Great mod.

I'll let you know if any CTDs arise from adding this mod whenever I start a new game, in hopes of improving it.

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Originally Posted by thecellarlife

if any CTDs arise from adding this mod whenever I start a new game, in hopes of improving it.

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I've been using this mod since it was adapted to EB 1.2 and I haven't got a single CTD.
The only problem that may arise with this mod is getting the March of Time reforms, as you can see on the previous two pages.

Indeed, MAA made a great mod. I can't play EB without it.

I'm around 230 BC with Saba after starting a new game, and no CTDs so far. Sometimes the units blink in battles though, but I think that may just be that particular faction as I think I've seen something about it on here.

Hi. Is City Mod compatible with EAEM. :help:

version a.

the construction of 'city', 'large city', and 'huge city' to "civilized" factions. which factions are those?



version b.

what "barbarian" factions are restricted? can i please have a list of the factions.

Thanks! i think it's time to switch to version a if there are no more barbarians left in my current game. i'm so sick of looking at small towns and huts. lol...

Casse, Aedui, Arverni, Lusotann, Sweboz, Getai, Sauromatae and Saka.

If all your barbarians are death, than you already have version a, since all non barbarian faction are the same in version a as they are in version b.

One quick question. Since i haven't played EB for almost half a year couse i lacked challenge, does this mod make the game harder or easier for the human player?

Both.

Harder: less developed cities, slower population growth, less people to recruit.
Easier: higher public order overall, so your empire can be bigger, although you must take care not to overexpand too fast, since your cities build up quite slow.

Thanks for the quick answer. How about the AI? how doest it handle the a and b versions? Does it stop it from spamming so much? any other gameplay change?

I don't see any real difference in the recruitment behaviour of the AI.

The AI builds up cities fast(er than you). And does not send you endless stacks of light levies.

If we ever feel like playing as a barbarian faction can we just switch back and forth at will?

Yes.

Just switch the files.

HI is there some quick way when you start the game to check if you have the Mod installed correctly.

Click on a city and then click the building browser. See if your common cities can upgrade only to "Minor City" level, while the more important cities will be able to upgrade to "Large City" or "Huge City". If all cities can become "Huge City" than the mod was not installed. If all cities can only become "Large Town" than the mod was installed incorrectly.

How do I give certain cities the ability to become larger? Long ago I asked about Athens and Jerusalem, but nobody seems to have done much. How do I change this?

Will EBII have realistic caps on town/city population sizes or will this endeavor require a new sub-mod all over again?

I like this mod very much. I like playing barbarian factions with the 'civilised' game files, so my own faction is crippled!

I feel this kind of helps me roleplay that not a lot of warriors are available to me, as the High King, at any one time. My ostensibly unified faction is actually a lot of separate tribes, all of which spend most of their time killing each other in petty tribal conflicts, so they don't provide me with many troops. And not a lot of taxes either.

'My' royal army is only those warriors assigned to the service of the High King - the local chieftains keep many warriors back for 'local' defence (and attacking their neighbours!) And I can't stop the local chieftains from doing this, or they will revolt against my overlordship, and I don't want that. So I have to put up with a weak central government, a weak central army, and a poor central treasury. Most of my faction's wealth is in the hands of the local chieftains, where I can't use it.

I've just realised I've never shown any gratitude for this mod!

Thanks MAA!!

Is this mod supposed to cap population growth, or population? For ex Taras is at 13000 and since I can't build a proconsuls place squalor seems to go up. Did I not install this correctly? I know I can use pop cheat but that would be really annoying not to mention it would effect the AI (I think).

btw I really hope the EB team uses this idea for EB2.

This mod gives only a few cities the chance to get huge, a limited number the chance to get large (see post 1). So, everything is alright with your game, this is a feature, not a bug. ;)

XSamatan

BTW: Welcome to the forum!

thanks for the reply!

so what your saying is that I'm just SOL when it comes to not having to use the pop cheat to keep my squalor down? :dizzy2:

IMO this adds a good point to the game, it is now harder to get a decent population and high taxes.
Build as many health buildings as you can, plus build schools in big towns so your governors can gain good traits and ancillaries to boost growth. Otherwise, yes you are stuck with that, but this is the feature of this mod.

XSamatan

A small technical advice to those who have changed Capua/Campania to become a Huge city because of the 'March of Time' trigger conditions. The advice in this thread said to simply add this resource (huge) in the regions file and delete the map.rwm. This is correct. In case you are starting EB with the 'Play Single Player'-Launcher the game provides you with, it is necessary to delete the map.rwm in the 'sp game edu backup' folder as well. You will get an error while starting but the game will load fine. Just copy the newly generated map.rwm into this folder and everything will be fine again and Capua (or whatever city you have changed) will be able to become huge.
It took me half an hour to figure out why my changes didn't apply :wall:, so I just thought I'd share this with you.
Have fun.

Hi..., my first post here. Have just started on a campaign - as the Casse - on Europa Barbororum, and love it. I was looking for mods that might make things even more realistic, historically, and this one caught my eye. Now, I know that this will make my job as a faction leader of the Casse very, very difficult indeed..., and one of the more recent posts outlines that. But, that pretty much describes how the tribes of the Gauls were run.

What I was wondering was, while this historical depiction is fine, it strikes me that this same scenario (many smaller tribes all infighting, turning against the central power etc.) could easily describe the early state of Rome. So, would it be possible to have some sort of 'trigger', a level of factional control, that then allowed a barbarian culture to begin city building?

You can always Roleplay. Wait with real city building until an event happens in your campaign that makes you think that the time of city building has arrived.

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Originally Posted by Mediolanicus

You can always Roleplay. Wait with real city building until an event happens in your campaign that makes you think that the time of city building has arrived.

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Of course....., the simplest option is always the best. But I was thinking more in terms of using the City Mod to make sure that the likes of the Sweboz or the Arverni don't turn out as great city-states...

Having not played the game for very long, does this tend to happen? If not then there is no issue anyways..., I suppose the Roman threat - and their own in-fighting - would tend to keep their populations low.

A great minimod. But is there a list that shows which cities can reach which levels?

Anyway, I made it by myself, here's the list:

HUGE CITY

Alexandreia - Delta Neilou
Terhazza - Eremos
Roma - Latium
Seleukeia - Mesopotamia
Persepolis - Persis
Antiocheia - Syria
Kart-Hadast - Zeugitana

LARGE CITY

Babylon - Babylonia
Arvernotorg - Gergovia
Athenai - Attike
Baktra - Baktria
Mastia - Bastetania
Capua - Campania
Camulosadae - Cassemorg
Taksashila - Gandhara
Sarmiszegethusa - Getia Koile
Armavir - Hayasdan
Memphis - Heptanomis
Sparte - Lakonike
Sardis - Lydia
Pella - Makedonia
Ekbatana - Media
Bibracte - Mrogaedu
Sinope - Paphlagonia
Swebotraustastamnoz - Swebolandam
Syracuse - Trinakrie

MINOR CITY

All other settlements can reach minor city level

How do all other settlements reach minor city size? I've got Pergamon, Nikaia, Byzantion and Hallikarnassus, and they all seem to stop at large town. Pergamon is the only one close, it's got 10500 people but doesn't say when it reaches the next size.

EDIT II: Had a message saying Byzantion had reached the next size. Only no new governor's building appeared in the construction roster. Is that intentional?

Also, do the changes in size impact where you can build fleets? Seems I can only get mercantile ports so far. Looking desiringly across the water at Rhodos which already has a naval port, but not sure I really want a war with KH just so I can invade Krete.

Come to think of it, I don't think I can invade Rhodos without my own ships! EDIT: Mytilene solved this problem, it had a naval port.

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Originally Posted by QuintusSertorius

How do all other settlements reach minor city size? I've got Pergamon, Nikaia, Byzantion and Hallikarnassus, and they all seem to stop at large town. Pergamon is the only one close, it's got 10500 people but doesn't say when it reaches the next size.

EDIT II: Had a message saying Byzantion had reached the next size. Only no new governor's building appeared in the construction roster. Is that intentional?

Also, do the changes in size impact where you can build fleets? Seems I can only get mercantile ports so far. Looking desiringly across the water at Rhodos which already has a naval port, but not sure I really want a war with KH just so I can invade Krete.

Come to think of it, I don't think I can invade Rhodos without my own ships! EDIT: Mytilene solved this problem, it had a naval port.

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Do you have the appropriate market building in order to upgrade the city centre building?