Out of character thread XIV

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Originally Posted by FactionHeir

Since they are entrenched in their positions, moving off would result in some losses, right?

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Well, I think it would be easy to break under cover of darkness. It was a bit of Mexican stand-off and neither side really seemed to want to press the matter.

But I will roll for attrition when I get the save back from Warmaster_Horus. Everyone else has already endured their roll for 1318 - I assume desertion will stop when TinCow takes over. As GH has found out, we will need the men. :scared:

BTW for Warmaster_Horus's battle, I'm going to apply a 24 hour deadline from the time of Northnovas's post and then autoresolve if necessary.

Well, you can continue desertion and once the civil war is over, have the men come back using create_unit (or somesuch) which also allows to control the amount of experience and weapon/armor upgrades. Just make a note of the units you disband.

IMO the battle should have continued reading the last post in that thread as Warluster was actively harassing using his xbows still while Hümmel was just sitting around.

If you insist on breaking it off though, I would suggest to have Warluster pursue Hümmel and besiege Caen rather than withdraw all the way to Staufen. Too many rebels in the way and Hans is moving towards Caen in a way anyway (will tag settlements along the way though)

I think there was an urge to get the game moving again. Most of us are sitting in our foxholes waiting for all hell to break loose soon. The Normandy battle, while cool, was kind of just sitting there.

We've jacked up the tension and suspense to an insanely high level and then we make everyone wait. o_O

I for one am looking forward to getting this ball rolling again. :yes:

Desertion and rioting will stop once I take over, but they will resume if avatars do thing which would logically create them. We're going to need all the help we can get.

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Originally Posted by FactionHeir

If you insist on breaking it off though, I would suggest to have Warluster pursue Hümmel and besiege Caen rather than withdraw all the way to Staufen. Too many rebels in the way and Hans is moving towards Caen in a way anyway (will tag settlements along the way though)

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I'm going to move them one turn back - a teleport, representing 1318 move - at the start of 1320 along their lines of communication. From their orders, I think they were too evenly matched for either to want to press things. Hummel actually wanted to press on to Bruges, but von Salza was blocking that. Von Salza pressing on to Caen would not be smart as Hummel has fresh troops being trained there and will outnumbered him. I know it may suit Hans if they mutually self destruct, but I'm giving them a time out to resupply and get more men. If they want to go back at it in 1320, they can.

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Originally Posted by Privateerkev

We've jacked up the tension and suspense to an insanely high level and then we make everyone wait.

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Right now, it's the computer making us wait. I am not sure we had a single defensive battle under my stewardship and now it comes to an end, we have three! The AI is toying with us. :laugh4:

not a decisive battle at all. lol

they should fight 'er multiplayer.

FH, I hope you made some notes reading the Normandy thread. :wink:

HAHA, GH you going to true ur hand at regicide too? OR should that be dukicide? :P

go for it GH lol. hans hates peter

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Originally Posted by econ21

I'm going to move them one turn back - a teleport, representing 1318 move - at the start of 1320 along their lines of communication. From their orders, I think they were too evenly matched for either to want to press things. Hummel actually wanted to press on to Bruges, but von Salza was blocking that. Von Salza pressing on to Caen would not be smart as Hummel has fresh troops being trained there and will outnumbered him. I know it may suit Hans if they mutually self destruct, but I'm giving them a time out to resupply and get more men. If they want to go back at it in 1320, they can.

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How come Hümmel can afford training troops and not suffer desertion at all while Hans' troops desert left and right and doesn't have any funds to recruit troops?
Hans doesn't want them to mutually self-destruct, but wants the rebellion to end within the next year so he can go and reclaim all those rebel towns. Have to wonder why towns actually rebelled even though Hümmel only really holds Metz and Caen while Hans sent out specific orders to the NPC governors.


GH: Not quite sure what you mean, except that Ignoramus would have let you send orders in his stead.

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Originally Posted by FactionHeir

How come Hümmel can afford training troops and not suffer desertion at all while Hans' troops desert left and right and doesn't have any funds to recruit troops?
Hans doesn't want them to mutually self-destruct, but wants the rebellion to end within the next year so he can go and reclaim all those rebel towns. Have to wonder why towns actually rebelled even though Hümmel only really holds Metz and Caen while Hans sent out specific orders to the NPC governors.

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He has no chance at all of being able to end the rebellion within one year now that the Battle of Normandy is over.

Don't worry about desertion, though. Like I said, it's over with and you won't suffer any more unless you cause it through your own actions. Hans has relatively little military power at the moment, but he can quickly and easily assemble a great deal if he does the right things. In addition, Staufen is safe from foreign attack for the time being, while Caen is right on the front lines with France. Wolfgang will have to manage to hold off the French just to survive, let alone expand.

I'm solving my v1.3 problems right now, so you can expect me taking the save in the next hour.

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Originally Posted by econ21

Right now, it's the computer making us wait. I am not sure we had a single defensive battle under my stewardship and now it comes to an end, we have three! The AI is toying with us. :laugh4:

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Then the ai must die. :D



but seriously, I guess I just am getting antsy in general. It's like running downstairs on christmas morning and having your parents tell you that you have to run an errand before you open presents. anyone else feeling that way? The buildup has been absolutely awesome. The stories and role playing that it has been generating have been top-notch. But it has made me all on-the-edge-of-my-seat with anticipation at the next step. I'll endeavor to not let my excitement get too naggy. ^_^

I'll go do something else today. That will help take my mind off of it. :2thumbsup:

Play EB. :laugh4:

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Originally Posted by FactionHeir

How come Hümmel can afford training troops and not suffer desertion at all while Hans' troops desert left and right and doesn't have any funds to recruit troops?

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In 1318, Hummel trained troops in Caen and Hans did in Staufen; in fact, every castle in the Reich maxed out recruitment. In 1316, no one trained anything due to the heist (except Fritz went on a spending spree after sacking Stettin). The slow resolution of the battle of Normandy immunised the two parties from desertion, but that benefits loyalists and rebels equally.

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Hans doesn't want them to mutually self-destruct, but wants the rebellion to end within the next year so he can go and reclaim all those rebel towns.

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I have a feeling that TinCow's time may be more about losing settlements than reclaiming them. But I don't know how evil he is going to be.

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Have to wonder why towns actually rebelled even though Hümmel only really holds Metz and Caen while Hans sent out specific orders to the NPC governors.

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In character, the towns revolted against both Hummel and Hans.

Out of character, Swabia has suffered the most from Acre being the capital. But I think things may balance out as Swabia has only one external enemy (France) whereas other Houses face multiple opponents: Franconia vs Danes, Poles & Russians; Austria vs Venetians, Hungarians and Byzantines; Bavaria vs Sicilians and Byzantines; Outremer vs Byzantines, Egyptians and Papists.

I've got the save. Expect an update in less than half an hour.

Yeah, it's time for Franconia to kick some a.

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Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

Play EB. :laugh4:

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It looks interesting but I have my general hesitancy about mods to contend with. I almost picked up "TW Eras" yesterday though. It's down to about 30 bucks. (remember I still don't own RTW) Got Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault instead because that is down to 10 bucks. :2thumbsup:

But instead of playing video games, I'm going to go to my gf's parents so they can celebrate our b-days. (She is the day after me) So, try not to let the whole Reich burn down until I get back tonight. ~;)

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1320.rar

Battle fought and won. No other battles. Expect battle results in a couple of hours.

Hmm, this cataclysm is starting out pretty well for Dietrich.

I accept the marriage proposal.

peters coup didnt go as planned.

I have a couple of things I want to do to the save before handing over to TinCow.

Once the Chancellor's report for 1318 goes up, we will be in 1320 in the story.

Good, I was hoping you were going to fine-tune the 1320 save. I am already working on the first turn write-up for the Cataclysm period. Please be patient with me throughout my phase of the event. This stuff takes a long time to write for 19 players.

I am going to list options for all players on the first turn, just because I want to demonstrate the range of possibilities that are open to people. I urge you all to read the options for each character, simply because some are more imaginative than others. Use them as a way to come up with your own strategies.

If in the future you know you are going to make up your own choices about what to do, please notify me ahead of time. It will save some time if I can skip writing choices for a few people.

OK, I've adjusted the save to reflect the Battle for Normandy:

http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/kotr1320.zip

It's all yours, TinCow. If you need me to do any more fine tuning, just shout. I am leaving the command of the Saxon army as an issue for 1320 to decide.

I think the news embargo is over - it was the fall of Rome we wanted to keep secret - so unless TinCow says otherwise, players are free to inspect the savegame.

On another matter, we have a new avatar - Dieter von Kassel - who has spawned in besieged Acre. My (OOC!) son, Mini Econ, has asked to take on the role and I have agreed. I am pretty sure he will be youngest player here, so please make allowances.

Just to confirm I will look after the avatar shots for the library.

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so please make allowances.

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No: &#*@%!


or even:
*!^$%$^@

???


:daisy: all

btw: I believe you made him Heir to Franconia ... not the best place for a young kid

Heh "Mini Econ" huh? So he's going to be an economist too? :grin2:

Thanks for the infos btw, I'll have a word with TC.

FYI, the first turn will begin tomorrow. You can rest easy for tonight and stop reloading the forums.

how old is mini-econ?