no, Singapore :egypt:
edict? what edict?
EDIT: oh that, I don't think that could be put forward as an edict, it isn't a congressional/emergency session
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no, Singapore :egypt:
edict? what edict?
EDIT: oh that, I don't think that could be put forward as an edict, it isn't a congressional/emergency session
Not only that, but tribunes can't propose edicts even when it is. ~:doh:
Can we end the turn now? I wanna get this battle done :smash:
Not really. It's guaranteed 24 hours, so it's still some 2 hours left before it's allowed to be reclaimed. Not that it matters to me right now; I'm just mindlessly chanting the rules. :sweatdrop:
Maybe...we should have a game where we randomly spurt out a rule...for no reason...could be fun :2thumbsup:
Like... everyone (and especially everyone!) has to worship The Celtic Viking, or suffer a long and cruel death? :idea:
I don't remember that rule...but what the heck...:help:
man oh man after reading Swissbarbar's latest post in the curia i am convinced Avlvs is out to get Servivs! I don't think the two can every be friends in the curia :laugh4::laugh4:
I find it funny how this proposed invasion is causing so much anger throughout the senate, its kinda like attacking Carthage. i think this debate has man some clear divisions in the senate, i think its safe to say Servivs and Avlvs are enemies.
I'm quite glad I've stayed out of it, to be honest. Pretty heated.
Can we end the turn now? :beam:
Now we can. (To be on the minute. ~;)
Edit: or not. Blasted forum clock is apparently one minute after my computer clock. Bah. But now it should be okay. :laugh4:
yah Bean i noticed that :beam: I was a little bummed about it though, i would have liked to see what you had to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by _Bean_
please end the turn, this has dragged on for too long
Hehe, it was our intention to create "houses" ^^ We 2 are pioneers, Poto *G*Quote:
Originally Posted by Potocello
that we are Swiss :beam::beam: now we have to get the ranks to be able to do something about it
hmm civil war perhaps :clown:
unfortunately its too early in the game for that *G* but not every dispute has to turn out in a civil war. Actually Avlvs is not even in the curia anymore to argue, so just lets hate each other for now :laugh4: :laugh4:
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: I just read your post and you are indeed, not in the Curia. So basically my most recent post there was my character yelling at the air where you should have been. oops :sweatdrop:
no no, you yelled so loud, that he still could hear it :sweatdrop:
Did you not see, I said earlier: I don't take part in the Curia when I'm on campaign, seeing as I wouldnt be there. Its realistic that the senators would lose influence if not in the city, which is why victory is important to keep influence, and to work twice as hard behind the scenes and when you are in the city.
oh right Bean, forgot you were off doing your duty.
@Swiss hahaha. i must say i am really looking forward to seeing where Servivs and Avlvs' relationship goes.
on another note. I just ordered my new macbook! i'm really excited, not gunna lie.
omg Spurs...do something...
I think right now RP speaking Legatus Nero (your second in command) is in Rome speaking on your behalf while you get things settled up north before I rejoin the Legion before we march to battle.Quote:
Originally Posted by _Bean_
So has anyone given any thought to starting up a house? I think it would simply be a good way for a few senators to share ideals and plans for future senate debates and votes, among other things. We could role play an adobe as the common house for those who have been accepted and then use a system of PMs for more private and personal dealings.
Houses can only start once their are Praetors, and yes, there are plans.
EDIT: COME ON YOU SPUUUURRRSSS!! COME ON YOU SPUUURRRSS!! Bloody close run thing
Servivs' support is no where to be found:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4:
where are Mooks and Tiberius anyway?
hey guys ill be ending the turn soon im at work ill be home in an hour...:sweatdrop:
Why would I be chucked out? I am an agitator and insolent and I want to turn people against you by making them think that you would make yourself a new king. The phrase "in league with" doesn't necessarily identify you with 'criminal' per se. It certainly loans a negative connotation to you, which is what I intend; but certainly 'criminal' doesn't come foremost to my mind at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by _Bean_
Thoughts anyone?
omg i fu**ing hate my boss...those are my thots.
and Baen fight that battle good luck!
wow Cicero's wife is 12 haha
I think he meant I would probably pick you up by your straps and throw you out of the Curia myself :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribunus Tiberius Claudius Marcellus
Don't mess with Cotta, lol
Just to clear that up Praetors dont start house, the sponsor them. Quaestors start houses.Quote:
Originally Posted by _Bean_
If you want a run down its in the rules, ill show you another example using you guys.
Cotta becomes a Praetor...YAY!
Longvs becomes a Quaestor...YAY!
Longvs stands for blah blah blah so he befriends Cotta (yes this requires kissing some ass as houses should be worthy) and asks him to sponsor his house or family that is.
Cotta will OK it and announce said house/family in the Curia.
Longvs then does a long drawn speech as to what he will stand for and asks the dictator for the finalized okay. He will stand for cake baking and a Rome where each house deserves a cake.
Dictator okays.
Gamemaster, me, then will create a new thread for Longvs' house/family.
Longvs Cake Baking Family thread will then post in that thread what the family stands for, rules of how to enter the family, ranks within the family which he will delegate. And then get creative beyond that I dont care.
I will also be implementing a new legion type next council that will become House/Family legions that literally belong to said house/family so they can conduct their civil wars out of their own pocket so to speak. This way we do not waste away the senates legions. Provincial legions may also be used in a civil war if they belong to the family/houses in the war.
The Order of St.John is a great example in LoTR.
Also, how each house/family earns money to fund their personal legions will be delegated by a little idea ive been cooking up which ill unveil later as it will take good planning.
update: orders for all Legio's are in my SOT!
I'll have to wait till I get home tonight to play it, seeing as you posted the new save at 02.19 this morning :beam:.
Oh yeah, and people need to update their SOT's, especially the tribunes and former tribunes who are no longer serving or have begun to serve with the legions.
@Navarro, You still need a Praetor to start a house though right? Or can a Quaestor start one without sponsership?
I look forward to taking the first step towards Legatus. Cotta, please don't let any of us die. :sweatdrop:
yes, I'm particularly afraid of losing another character, fortunately we'll be auto-winning the battle that Legio I takes part in to simulate the city surrendering.
ah. I see the debate seems to have died down.
*GGG* Don't worry, I'd save you in battle :laugh4:
lol! I also just realised Cicero's wife is 12 years? :smash:
anyway, I'll take the save after baen fights the battle to retrain the units hewastedlost
edit: never mind, I'll take it now, I might not have time later
ouuuuuuu, thank you !!! maybe I can use that in our debates :laugh4: :laugh4:
Iv been a bit busy lately. Meaning my Pontus campaign has got me hooked. Its the perfect campaign, I managed to get the Galacia city population up to 10,000 and my capital up to 3,000. The Seleucid, Egyptians, and Makedonians attacked me in turn. Im not rushing, capturing a city every 15 turns or so. Now the old generation is dying and the new generation are all Thracians or Kappadonians, and theres a lot of them. Im also trying to roleplay and use a few house rules.
Also in the debate I realised that the senate has in fact, no balls. Im willing to make it so 2 legions go to Greece instead of one.
Iv thought about making a house, but im not doing it unless im the co-leader or leader.
:laugh4: Glad that wasnt in the Curia, Everyone.:beam:Quote:
I'll take the save after baen fights the battle to retrain the units hewastedlost
good, now that you are online, perhaps you could take the save and waste - I mean use legio II to capture patavium now.
edit: I also intend to post something in the Curia but I am delayed because I can't think of what great oration to compose and finish my homework which has instructions which are impossible to comprehend at the same time
How many units you think he will lose? 300?
The legions will do fine taking the cities up north, hell,there's enough pila to be thrown at the unarmored barbaroi. I would like to submit that if we "auto-win", it be voted on in the senate. I hate auto-winning; myself; but see it as completely useful for RP. My main issue with it is 'will it become just a standard tool in our arsenal?" I hope the commander who "wins" that way gets no battle points as they really didn't fight a battle, did they?
the taking of massilia auto-win thing was decided by the edict, and Cicero is starting to think the debate in the curia is starting to become really retarded. so I'm making him furious and say something. (actually I meant to post this part after I RP some stuff between Cicero and Cotta, but baen/bean doesn't seem to be online. so I'll just skip that.
we need to change the rules, so we really have a republic, or the game here is not worthy of rome, if the dictator decides everything on his own. In that case we'd better change that faction :inquisitive: :inquisitive:
perhaps I'll propose a CA as soon as possible to change it to
"The senate, proposing an edict, shall decide where it is to move and whom to attack"
anyway I have to go to sleep now.
Yes, this would be great for several reasons, I write it down for you.
We must turn Rome into a Republic, because this is what it is. Its the senates job to discuss all important matters, not the dictators. Or we have a Roman Kingdom here.
Proposal
CA X.1: The senate shall decide where it is to move an army and whom to attack, because[/B]Quote:
Dictator's will decide who commands it, where it is to move (if at all), and whom to attack.
- Roma is a Republic, not a Kingdom, so the Senate and not the Dictator has to decide.
- Only when the Legions belong to Commanders (or Houses) we can RP civil wars, otherwise the dictator could just draw all legions back, which would end in a pretty one-sided civil war
- More funny debates about bits and pieces are granted.
Quote:
Players may not move avatars or armies into the territory of a neutral or allied faction without the permission of the Dictator.
Nor may they attack the settlements or armies of neutral or allied factions without a declaration of war from the Dictator, either Consul’s, or an Edict.
CA X.2: Players may not move avatars or armies into the territory of a neutral or allied faction without the permission of the Senate.
Nor may they attack the settlements or armies of neutral or allied factions without a declaration of war from the Senate. [/B]
CA X.3: If a Standard or Imperial Legion falls below the minimum strength level, all military recruitment must be allocated to restoring the Legions to minimum strength before money can be spent on other recruitment, unless the Senate agrees otherwise.Quote:
If a Standard or Imperial Legion falls below the minimum strength level, all military recruitment must be allocated to restoring the Legions to minimum strength before money can be spent on other recruitment, unless the Dictator agrees otherwise.
These are the most important ones, but there are more. We should change most "Dictators rights" into "Senates rights". Due to the gameplay, maybe we leave the giving away of Provincial Dictatorships to the Dictator, with the addition, that the senate could veto and vote, if the player is not accepted.
We don't even need sessions for voting, because the senate should vote ALL THE TIME for every matter. That's his job
I'm finally home, so I'll play the battle now.
I was at school when I came online earlier.
Baen, did you forget to write that you took the save?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Celtic Viking
No, TCV nicked it before I got there :laugh4:
Patavium is captured. Fun battle, that. My tribunes are very good fighters btw. Well done Aemilii!
Sweet, did any of the cavalry command squads gain any experience? :2thumbsup:
I'm making the battle report now, I'll post the scrolls for you to see while I do the screenshots and write the full report and whatnot.
Looking forward to reading about the battle I fought in. :laugh4:
I think they should get battle points for auto-winning because they are still taking the risk of their avatar dying. Perhaps subtract 1 from the battle points they would have gotten from actually fighting the battle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribunus Tiberius Claudius Marcellus
Congratulations, Legatus ;-)
Cheers. Navarro, where do I stick my battle points?
There's no threat of losing your character. If the avatar dies, just reload the save and auto-resolve the battle again. It's not really cheating when you're cheating to begin with :juggle2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mjolnir
I suppose you could RP something like in "Ben Hur" when the new governor of Jerusalem is thrown from his horse and killed when slate roof tiles fall to the ground and startle the horse; but who wants to die like that?
No battle points I say!
Edit: GJ Beaney!
We're only autowinning it because it's not meant to be a battle. It's meant to be a diplomatic mission, but because of the limits of the engine conquering the city is the only way of getting an alliance with a free city.
hmmm what to do about Carthage? they are getting a little too close for comfort and their alliance with the Epeiros is disconscerting.
Bring it up in the Curia, I'd be happy to express my opinions.
EDIT: I'm going to have to compose future letters more carefully, haha
Yes, yes you will. My goal is to destroy you!Quote:
Originally Posted by _Bean_
Why? I don't know. I am probably jealous that you started the game before me and so therefore have a higher position in the legions and are one of the few characters to actually get to do anything.
Oh well, just hope we never get the ability to RP assassinations, because I'd take you out!:yes:
hahah whoa now Tiberius, i didn't know you had such hostility towards Bean
It's all RP of course, I don't know the guy IRL and he seems to take it all in stride; but yeah, my character is a spoiled little prick who always wants his way and will make it hell for everyone until he gets it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Potocello
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: funny, Tiberius
I'm going to be honest-- it's all fun and RPing and stuff, but RPing against fat prick that gets on everybody's nerves is not what I joined up for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribunus Tiberius Claudius Marcellus
Agggggghhhhhhhhhhhh (No, its not an assassin...) I just accidently got rid of everything I wrote in the last half hour in my Battle Report...
Wow, that was strangely.....out of place. What gives with the OOC hostility? Maybe you need to hone your RP skills then? :-PQuote:
Originally Posted by Il_Duce
Come on Il_Duce, do you really want an RPG where we all get along? :P
I'll finish the battle report tomorrow, I'm so knackered. I'm home before lunch tomorrow so I'll have plenty of time. See ya later y'all
No, it's just the fact that sometimes you take it too far. It's just not fun when somebody is RPing such a ridiculous character.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tribunus Tiberius Claudius Marcellus
Also, was I moved from Legio II? I don't remember anything about it in the dictator reports.
it is in his character traits and that's how Tiberius chooses to rp him. In all honesty i think this would be boring without such ridiculous characters...
i am aware, and yes changes will be madeQuote:
Originally Posted by SwissBarbar
I agree with everything cept for the senate deciding on recruitment and retraining, CoL does that and nothing will ever get done if everyone is bickering over what to recruit or to retrain for. I trust that whoever is CoL will get the job done to par. And the civil war legions thing will be handled as well. Youll like what ive got in store im sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwissBarbar
But the idea of not voting in a session will never happen. It would be chaos if we missed a proposed edict or things were passed up. It is good to keep it organized for a proper time.
they will receive points. its an edict we voted on so it is agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mjolnir
all taken care of man!:smash:Quote:
Originally Posted by _Bean_
this is what the hell ive been trying to propose lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by Potocello
cmon Il_Duce easy now, everything in game is strictly for fun. if you have a serous problem with someone lemme know in a PM and we will try to resolve the issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Il_Duce
navarro i know i know, but now they're really getting close! hahah
you know what i really fear and may come as a good thing for some of you with all these proposal ideas as well need an emergency council?
in most of my Romani campaigns, in 264 its either scripted or coincidence, but Carthage seems to attack Messana in that year alot and starts the 1st Punic. Im about to end the turn and it may happen at anytime in this following year. So then it will be to hell with greece and the epirotes, but ALL FREAKIN LEGIONS REPORT SOUTH haha.
@SwissBarbar your SOT has given me an idea. ill be adding a part to the library showing each battle each legio has been involved in so we can better argue our experience in the Curia. :idea2:
I'm game, i think it would be sweet if we had the 1st Punic war, i think it would be a lot of fun :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by navarro951
I know i actually am hoping for it to put all these dumb greece invasion arguments down. At least now well have a reason to attack another faction, not just for money. :laugh4:
:laugh4: :laugh4: :laugh4: Well if they attack Messena we should attack them saying that they are too close or they will attack rome next. I dunno :clown:
Why not discuss reports of Carthaginian attacks in the Curia, but with a twist - all of them are false!
I'm sure Tiberius would love to fabricate a casus belli. :smash:
well, they would be false, but that angle is not necessary. They have imposed forces close to us and we havent at all. Thats reason enough. The real treaty the Romans and Carthaginians had was that none of their forces could enter Messana or the region there either. They have utterly violated it for some 5 years now.
O rly? Proof or it didn't happen. :magnify:
Potocello, Iv been saying what you have long before you ever did. Your arguement is nothing fresh.