Capo di Tutti Capi III [Concluded]

Vote: 'khaan
Select: Slashandburn

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

That wasn't n1, that was after N1.

And Dons cannot do two-man kills.

Can you state your case why haudegen is relieved of guilt, and please comment on my above post with the N12 actions which seem to indicate that Khaan was elsewhere when the Beretta was used?

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Gah. There was no violin killer on N10; Haudegen is not off the hook yet.

ho ho ho YLC!


I love you to death, that was a most awesome writeup.

So yeah, I was abducted, I don't really know what that means for me in the end-game, but I stand by my word.

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Originally Posted by Myself, only earlier

TWICE now he has chosen to lynch someone else, I begin to suspect he won't even vig kill him tonight as he has promised me, and if he does not then the town MUST lynch ATPG.

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I'm sorry, but I must stand by that.


And to the FBI who abducted me, I have no hard feelings, but you guys do realize I was another vote for the justice of the town, if you would've given me a couple of rounds to maybe help you out I really would've gone quietly.

All in all, good game guys, it's a shame I didn't go out in a blaze of glory, like YLC.

I mean holy lord, that was awesome.

I only wish I could've had a cool role that allowed me to write-up PMs :(

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Originally Posted by Andres

Gah. There was no violin killer on N10; Haudegen is not off the hook yet.

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Please someone recheck my logic on the N12 post above.

Is that proof that it was Haudegen or not?, Please look at it for yourselves and decide.

Hmm. Forgot to Vote: Askthepizzaguy

Your usefulness has ceased, and I don't trust a man who can speak out of four sides of his mouth for an entire game.

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Originally Posted by TinCow

You all reliably send in your orders every single other night, but then by remarkable coincidence ALL of you forget to send orders at the same time?

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Paranoid much?:inquisitive: Our Vig group has failed on 4 nights so far....2 because a Doctor was watching out for some of them...2 more because somebody or everybody didn't send in orders...:shrug:

You hold us to a VERY high regard, if you think we never missed any orders. (In fact...the Number Five Killer helped us kill LG...other-wise he would have survived:sweatdrop: Just because one person messed his orders, almost everything came crumbling down:no:..)

About the whole "Recruitment" thing...I went over that with Reenk and :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
I still don't have any clue; what in the world your talking about...:2thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Shinseikhaan

Hmm. Forgot to Vote: Askthepizzaguy

Your usefulness has ceased, and I don't trust a man who can speak out of four sides of his mouth for an entire game.

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Queen's gambit?

Or diverting attention?

How about Haudegen?

White eyes is extremely evil. After Atpg, khaan, and Louis, you need to kill him so that poor Haudegen is safe from killers (thank god eviler gibsons was wasted).

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Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

Paranoid much?:inquisitive: Our Vig group has failed on 4 nights so far....2 because a Doctor was watching out for some of them...2 more because somebody or everybody didn't send in orders...:shrug:

You hold us to a VERY high regard, if you think we never missed any orders. (In fact...the Number Five Killer helped us kill LG...other-wise he would have survived:sweatdrop: Just because one person messed his orders, almost everything come crumbling down:no:..)

About the whole "Recruitment" thing...I went over that with Reenk and :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:
I still don't have any clue; what in the world your taking about...:2thumbsup:

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You miss one very obvious point... if only one of you had forgotten your orders, the write-up still would have shown the rest of you. NONE of you appeared in the write-up, therefore NONE of you submitted your orders.

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Originally Posted by TinCow

You miss one very obvious point... if only one of you had forgotten your orders, the write-up still would have shown the rest of you. NONE of you appeared in the write-up, therefore NONE of you submitted your orders.

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Were you also supposed to be in that group? If the answer is affirmative, then you also failed to send in orders :shrug:

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Originally Posted by Andres

Queen's gambit?

Or diverting attention?

How about Haudegen?

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Oh, he's certainly mafia, or mafia-aligned at the least. There's really no doubt about that. I, however, trust Pizzaguy even less at the moment.

So...I take it you wanted me to do a Vig hit solo and die?:inquisitive:

I don't want to be wrong on this one. Andres... any dead townies, trustworthy people, please look at the N12 actions and tell me if that doesn't prove Haudegen is the Beretta killer. Any comment?

I'm not asking you to lean either way, just please recheck the logic.

Andres; he wasn't in that group, he's claiming to be a doctor now.

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Originally Posted by Andres

Were you also supposed to be in that group? If the answer is affirmative, then you also failed to send in orders :shrug:

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No, I was promoted to Doctor several nights ago. I was protecting Double A.

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Originally Posted by TinCow

No, I was promoted to Doctor several nights ago. I was protecting Double A.

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Several nights ago?

When exactly?

Which were your succesful protections?

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Originally Posted by Andres

Several nights ago?

When exactly?

Which were your succesful protections?

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Night 13 on Chaotix. It was my only successful protection of the game, but my partners were ACIN and Sasaki, both of whom apparently had roles which made them ineligible, so the promotion landed in my lap by default.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

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Originally Posted by TinCow

I just noticed that both A(1) and the section on Role Changing discuss being a Detective. Is that an error, or is there some way to move from Doctor to Detective?

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

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Originally Posted by TinCow

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

You may change to Doctor if you so wish after protecting Chaotix.

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I accept, I will change to doctor.

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Okay. Please be aware this DOES affect your n14 status (such changes are part of the reason for the delay to Sunday).


Your Role is:

Doctor, Fatlington Police

Victory Condition
You achieve victory by voting to lynch suspicious individuals and/or participate personally in their removal until such time as: a) all of the Mafia Dons, original and created, have been killed and b) the remaining townies and unaligned wiseguys outnumber the remaining Mafiosi. Your personal survival, though important, is secondary to the overall success of the town. See below:

Town win with 41+% of original townie roles surviving = decisive victory.
Town win with 21-40% of original townie roles surviving = clear victory.
Town win with fewer than 20% of the original townie roles surviving = close victory.
Neither side wins = draw.
Town defeat with fewer than 10% of the orginal mafiosi or wiseguys surviving = close defeat.
Town defeat 11-25% of orginal mafiosi or wiseguys roles surviving = clear defeat.
Town defeat 26+% of orginal mafiosi or wiseguys roles surviving = decisive defeat.
-- Your personal survival moves you one category up on this scale.
-- Successfully protecting 5 or more individuals (or killing their attackers) will also move you up one category on this scale.

Powers & Responsibilities

A. General:

1. Detectives have the same general abilities as a standard townie, plus the ability to investigate other players at night to learn information about them.

2. No Changes.

B. Day Actions:

1. You can select/vote as can all players.

C. Night Actions:

1. Each night phase, you may designate one other player (not yourself) to receive your protection. That player will be virtually immune to all attempts on their life for that night phase. If they are attacked and survive as a result of your efforts, you will be credited with a “save.” You may earn only one save per night. After two successful saves, you will be promoted to Surgeon (unless you refuse; if you refuse you will stay a Doctor).

2. A Surgeon functions exactly as does a Doctor, but during a “save” will also have some chance (2 in 6 for most, 1 in 6 for Dons and “Specials”) to cause the death of one attacker. After two Save-kills, you will be promoted to Surgeon-General.

3. A Surgeon General functions as a Surgeon, but the chance to cause the death of an attacker during a save is doubled.

4. In combination with 2 other townies, you can form a protection group (3 required) and attempt to protect one other player. If no attack occurs, nothing happens. If the target is attacked your group will save her/him and receive credit for the save. More than 3 townies can work in the same group, though this does not provide any other benefit aside from participation credit. If only 2 townies participate in a save effort and the target is attacked, that effort automatically fails. If only 1 townie attempts a save and the target is attacked, that effort fails and the townie has a 1 in 3 chance of dying in making the failed attempt. You cannot use your special protection powers while working with a protection team.

5. After two such successful saves, one of your group may be selected (randomly) to continue the game as a Doctor (you will be excluded from this).

6. You may, in combination with 3 other townies, you can form a vigilante group (4 required) and attempt to kill one other player. More than 4 townies can work in the same group, though this does not provide any other benefit aside from participation credit. If only 2 or 3 townies participate in a kill effort, that effort automatically fails. If only 1 townie attempts a kill, that effort fails and the townie has a 1 in 3 chance of dying in making the failed attempt.

7. After one successful kill, you will cease to be a Doctor and become a Townie. After two such successful kills, you may elect to continue the game as a wiseguy, or you may remain a Townie. You will be given this role-change opportunity only once.

D. Investigations:

If you are investigated, either by another detective or a made gangster, you will be found to be “innocent.”

Role Changing

As noted above under night actions, it is possible for you to change roles. Once you change roles from Detective to Doctor or Detective Sergeant, however, you may not reverse the decision – you have made a permanent change. You may (potentially) progress into other roles from there as appropriate to your new role.

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cut and paste errors, sorry. To go to detective, you'd have to regress to townie, then be a wise guy, then qual for rogue detective -- many phases.

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

White eyes is extremely evil. After Atpg, khaan, and Louis, you need to kill him so that poor Haudegen is safe from killers (thank god eviler gibsons was wasted).

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

I don't know why I'm offering you this, given your unhelpfulness to me this game (maybe I just like you too much ~:pat:, but if you want to join the winning side (and the cool side), go and speak with a dead Mafia (tell them I sent you - I'll confirm). We'll take it from there.

By the way, CR is unfortunately doomed (and it's all my fault - damn my different allegiance then :wall:), but if you can get Centurion1 to go as the scapegoat today (he's not with the good guys anyway) one more round means 1 more kill. :wink:

If you refuse this offer, so be it. You're only screwing over yourself. :laugh4:

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Who is the evil one Reenk?:eyebrows:

You got promoted to doctor after 1 succesful protection?

Did you do a succesful protection after your promotion to doctor? If so, can somebody confirm that?

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Night 13 on Chaotix. It was my only successful protection of the game,

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Then you should have not gotten it.

Everyone who is elligible must have 2 or more successful protects, and the one who recieves the option is selected from one of the eligible persons.

You becoming eligeble because "no one else was" while you only had ONE successful protect does not add up...

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Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

Who is the evil one Reenk?:eyebrows:

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Why not post the one later about me trying to use reverse psychology to get Atpg to lynch CR? :yes: (sucks I can't show your selective lies up :mean:)

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Originally Posted by Andres

You got promoted to doctor after 1 succesful protection?

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Yep, I thought it was strange myself at the time:

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

All right, so you've been promoted to wiseguy, and you did a successful protection.

Unfortunately, my previous partner, the rogue detective, was killed off by scumbags. I would need your services as a wiseguy to continue the plan of creating doctors, which is what you helped do last night (we think... waiting on results)

You and I would be working together to use my "Special kill" against Chaotix, who will be defended again by a group of three. This one should make a doctor if we haven't already. If the kill succeeds, then someone failed to send in orders and we caught a mafioso (and incidentally, knocked off a communist). If the kill fails, everyone sent in protection orders.

Would you agree to perform this action with me?

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Would you agree to perform this action with me?

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Yes

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All right.

Working with TinCow, I use my "Special Kill" against Chaotix. Same case as before, investigation result, etc.

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Isn't it currently a day phase?

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You can send in orders ahead of time.

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You are going to need to revise your orders. I just got home and found a PM from Seamus saying I could change to Doctor. I have accepted his offer, which I believe will prevent me from killing with you (though I don't have the role PM yet to know for sure). Plus, it would be a waste of a doctor action.

Advice on who I should protect is welcome.

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Interesting!

Okay, protect: Askthepizzaguy

Yes, believe it or not, I did the self-sacrificing thing today and protected a lot of the important people.

And, I will toss a pt group on you, comprised of Crazed Rabbit, Chaotix, and Haudegen.

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Will do. I admit, the promotion is a bit strange. That was my first successful protection, as all my previous protection targets were never attacked. Shouldn't that have excluded me as one of the candidates for promotion? (not that I'm complaining...)

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Originally Posted by TinCow

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Originally Posted by TinCow

Will do. I admit, the promotion is a bit strange. That was my first successful protection, as all my previous protection targets were never attacked. Shouldn't that have excluded me as one of the candidates for promotion? (not that I'm complaining...)

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Hmmm... are you sure you don't recall any others? Who did you protect during the game?

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N1 - CR, only person who did so though and he wasn't attacked anyway
N2 - Kommodus, not attacked
N3 through whatever the night was before johnhughthom died - johnhughthom
From the night johnhughthom died onwards, I haven't protected anyone until last night.

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Originally Posted by Andres

Did you do a succesful protection after your promotion to doctor? If so, can somebody confirm that?

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Nope, my protections since then have been ATPG, Double A, Double A.

I didn't like head games....so I deleted it:bounce:

You have been messing with me since the start of the game:no:

You even went so far as to call me a "Lapdog" of ATPG, so I would lynch CR....~:mecry:

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[QUOTE=White_eyes:D]

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

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Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

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Originally Posted by Reenk Roink

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Originally Posted by White

.....and your innocent how?:inquisitive:

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Just because he ain't innocent doesn't mean Atpg is, but you can't seem to figure that out can you WE? :whip:

And who is more dangerous? Atpg or Chaotix? You tell me who has killed more innocents?

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Commies have no rights:smg:

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You are going to die. :smash:

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I totally washed my hands of you this game:2thumbsup:

So is it just going to sit there without comment? Does no one care?

Khaan isn't even voting for Haudegen to save himself...

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Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

I didn't like head games....so I deleted it:bounce:

You have been messing with me since the start of the game:no:

You even went so far as to call me a "Lapdog" of ATPG, so I would lynch CR....~:mecry:

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.....and your innocent how?
Just because he ain't innocent doesn't mean Atpg is, but you can't seem to figure that out can you WE?

And who is more dangerous? Atpg or Chaotix? You tell me who has killed more innocents?
Commies have no rights
You are going to die.

I totally washed my hands of you this game:2thumbsup:

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:laugh4: Protip: if you're going to change one he to 'your' change the other one too! :laugh4::laugh4::laugh4:

I need some rest... It's 1:12 AM and I need to be at work at 07:00 AM
Be sensible town - you need to remove a Mafioso today even without the aid of a Director.

Directors are sacred cows YLC, you just bought a ticket to become a lice in the next reincarnation. :beam:

Your the one who messed up quoting me...:laugh4::laugh4:

I could tell you were upset with my refusal to work with you:beam:

I think the violin killer is Haudegen or 'khaan.

:laugh4:

:grin2::yes::beam:

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Originally Posted by spL1tp3r50naL1ty

Then you should have not gotten it.

Everyone who is elligible must have 2 or more successful protects, and the one who recieves the option is selected from one of the eligible persons.

You becoming eligeble because "no one else was" while you only had ONE successful protect does not add up...

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Could it have to do with his red text possibly?

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Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

Your the one who messed up quoting me...:laugh4::laugh4:

I could tell you were upset with my refusal to work with you:beam:

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You have yourself saying 'your innocent' but me replying 'He' ?

You call someone a communist? I that me? Or Chaotix like mentioned but not removed.

2nd person to third person makes no sense and is a dead giveaway of a fake PM. :yes:

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Originally Posted by Andres

I think the violin killer is Haudegen or 'khaan.

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It's most likely khaan, though it could be Atpg. Haudegen is probably only beaten in innocence by the doctors...

The twin killers we've seen earlier but not recently were gibsons and White eyes, who were trying to do a start up (maybe with khaan's family?). The reason they were able to hide very well was because of their vig killing against the remaining families (Ichigo, w&f, and so on).