Doctor Willenloss and his splendid invention, or... [Concluded]

Day 3'
Brickfaced: Montmorency, BSmith, ATPG, NinjaCow, Chaotix, Ishmael, Ironside
Ironside: Diana Abnoba, Brickfaced

Brickfaced was lynched. She was Jane, one of the doctor's assistants.
Also, it is evident now that Igor was in fact Immanuel Willenloss, one of the doctor's sons, working also as his assistant. It is unclear if he was a good person or a bad one.

You can also notice that at this moment time reached further than before reversing. It may be important for some of you

List of living players
1.
2. Montmorency
3. Arjos
4. BSmith, Eva Znanetzky
5. Chaotix
6.
7. Ishmael
8. NinjaCow, William Lane
9. DaveShack
10.
11. Askthepizzaguy
12. Diana Abnoba
13.
14.
15. Ironside

Dead players
Xenoneb, Martha Burghes. Policewoman. Allegiance: town
Nightbringer, Ann Pferd. Role-scanner. Allegiance: town
Robbiecon: Immanuel Willenloss (known as Igor). Allegiance: not clear
Edse, Michael Connely.
Brickfaced, Jane.

Night 3 begins

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

Ironside: It's time for travel
Arjos: Protect Ishmael or Chaotix, preferably Ishmael
Chaotix: Protect BSmith
DianaAbnoba: I'd prefer you to scan Daveshack though you may scan anyone other than Ironside should you be inclined
NinjaCow64: I'd prefer you to block Daveshack, though you may block anyone other than Ironside should you be inclined
Ishmael: Scan Daveshack
Askthepizzaguy: Protect Montmorency
BSmith: Watch Arjos or Ishmael, preferably Arjos

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My action is pretty much a no brainer, but if you have two other protectors, I'd recommend you double up on protection. Otherwise a simple roleblock by a scumbag negates such a protection and they can otherwise kill whoever they want tonight.

It would be a good idea for Arjos to protect BSmith or Monty, so the protection has a guarantee of working. Or vice-versa.'

edit- just realized we can't double up on Chaotix. facepalm

So, which order for me? Ishmael, Chaotix or Monty?

Protect Ishmael or Chaotix, preferably Ishmael

Gotcha, confirming for the protection on Ishmael...

aww. I'm dead. ~:mecry:

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William Lane was doing his job. In fact, he liked it. But, unfortunately, someone killed him.
NinjaCow was William Lane.
Other news: Edse was Michael Connely. He was a tracker, and a good townie
Something else: it seems that Ironside dissapeared.

Day 4 begins


1.
2. Montmorency
3. Arjos
4. BSmith, Eva Znanetzky
5. Chaotix
6.
7. Ishmael
8.
9. DaveShack
10.
11. Askthepizzaguy
12. Diana Abnoba
13.
14.
15. Ironside

Dead players
Xenoneb, Martha Burghes. Policewoman. Allegiance: town
Nightbringer, Ann Pferd. Role-scanner. Allegiance: town
Robbiecon: Immanuel Willenloss (known as Igor). Allegiance: not clear
Edse, Michael Connely. Tracker. Allegiance: Town
Brickfaced, Jane.
NinjaCow, William Lane

Arjos wasn't at home last night.

Not particularly telling, as he claims to have a protection action.

I see that BSmith and Monty and even Chaotix all survived the night.

I really gotta wonder why that is. Not even an attempt to hit any of them?

I get that there was a possibility that BSmith or Monty were double-protected, but Chaotix, claimed doctor, is essentially flapping in the wind, and he's not dead.

My guess is, if Chaotix is innocent, the roleblocker was the biggest threat. More of a threat even than a claimed doctor.

As such, I'm looking at DaveShack and Chaotix as the two largest likelihood of being scum.

DaveShack because that's who the blocker was blocking last night. As certain people in the ocean game can attest, roleblocking is a massive threat to the mafia but also quite ineffective against a mafia attacking the roleblocker itself. The scums may have been left with no other option but to fire at NinjaCow, particularly since there were scanners and doctors still alive.

That makes Daveshack not look too good at all.

The other option is maybe our claimed doctor, who should be a priority target for the scums, who has been vulnerable and exposed for a while now, is a communist.

But let's see what our scanners etc have to say.

I took no action last night because I correctly interpreted the previous update as having said that the time stream was going to be affected. If I had used my primary action it might have caused a paradox.
At least one person should understand what I'm saying, because the same ability I'm talking about seems to have been used on Ironside. Whomever used the ability seems to be in the clear with respect to NinjaCow.

Chaotix might make sense. Given the ability I (and several others) have, I'm not sure that having a doctor makes any sense. Which means it could very well be a false claim.
Vote: Chaotix.

I'm strongly inclined to say that two doctors is broken or not true, but this is a strange game.... even before three-ish doctors claimed.

I also note that, in spite of our bizarre amount of power roles, the communists are still fighting. I am guessing they have either some very good covers, or, they have precisely the kind of abilities it takes to counter ours.

Roleblocker is basically mandatory at this point, and NinjaCow seems to have been the roleblocker from the town side. No other claimed blockers means that the mafia roleblocker did not claim as a roleblocker and is therefore hiding among the other claimants.

That's one we can deduce from the active player pool, based on proof due to known actions.

I think we can reasonably conclude certain people cannot be the mafia roleblocker due to active use of other powers. If we could narrow down that pool, we will have a better shot at hitting the right target.

2. Montmorency
3. Arjos
4. BSmith, Eva Znanetzky
5. Chaotix
7. Ishmael
9. DaveShack
11. Askthepizzaguy
12. Diana Abnoba
15. Ironside

I wish I had all the data. Monty, can you fill in this chart a bit, based on what you know?

Quote:

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Originally Posted by BSmith

Arjos wasn't at home last night.

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Aye, protected Ishmael and it was uneventful; not that I expected anything, maybe Monty could send orders with multiple choices or something, right now we are getting bypassed :S
Anyway I'm waiting to hear from the scanners...

I scanned DaveShack last night and he did come up as Mike.

BTW so nice to hear from you again DaveShack, where have you been these past few phases?!! :stare: Are you saying you have the same ability as Ironside?


We definitely have cover stories for our mafia/communist.
Monty need to give everyone at least 2 choices for night actions. Putting our list of night action on thread (which I know is the only way we can organize), just gives our game plan to the mafia, and they hit the player not covered that night. I agree blockers right now our the mafia highest targets, then the doctors I feel may be next. Since the mafia have good cover roles the scanners aren't so much of a risk.

I got roleblocked last night.

Strange, since the person I protected was not targeted, but there it is.

ATPG, would you like me to update and re-post the player role list?

I'm aware of the roles. What I'm looking for is more along the lines of X cannot be the mafia roleblocker because X is known to be elsewhere night Y based on Z evidence.

My attention has been divided elsewhere for some time, and I'd rather not spend my day off hunting it down. I am assuming Monty has kept track of it.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Chaotix

I got roleblocked last night.

Strange, since the person I protected was not targeted, but there it is.

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Am I slow, or is this the first instance of evidence that there's an unclaimed roleblocker out there?

Roleblockers are scum more than 50% of the time. We need to deduce who this person is.

Daveshack scanned as a doctor's assistant. I'll refrain from voting until I hear from everybody else as to their results.

That said, I agree with Diana that our scans may not work against mafia. It seems awfully unlucky that neither of us have managed to hit scum all game, and my role does say 'role-scanner,' not 'alignment-scanner' (which it looks like Xenoneb may have been). And seeing as all that information is public knowledge now, my role is...pretty much useless. Shucks.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Am I slow, or is this the first instance of evidence that there's an unclaimed roleblocker out there?

Roleblockers are scum more than 50% of the time. We need to deduce who this person is.

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Diana Claimed to have been roleblocked last phase, but it was unclear if she was making it up to save her hide. Chaotix gives her more credit since he was blocked last night however.

@D I A N A

You were vague about your scan, Daveshack came up as 'Mike'? What was the full amount of information you were given? Seems strangely vague to me.



It seems obvious mafia are very powerful so I agree that multiple choice would be a good idea, otherwise Monty's list of orders is just allowing Mafia to safely plunder as they go. All that is happening at the moment is dictation of who they can attack, which may explain the uneventful night.

Please stop using the Mention tags for Diana Abnoba.

There is a person with the handle DiA, and all your mentions keep going to that person.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Please stop using the Mention tags for Diana Abnoba.

There is a person with the handle DiA, and all your mentions keep going to that person.

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I didn't even intend it, it did it automatically.

I forget that @ before any name creates a tag, since no other site I've been on function in that way...

Wow, hey, Jarema, why is this a short day?

I did give multiple choices, but to no avail. People announced whom they would do in-thread.

It's very strange that Ironside was not attacked. Well, perhaps it will be a boon to us.

Was anyone blocked? This is critical - was anyone blocked? If no one claims to have been blocked, then we can take it as proof of Thermal's guilt.

Aha, Chaotix claims to have been. That surely makes no sense. Whatever the scum are, they are not disorganized.

I have a particular plan for tonight, but it relies on the Commie blocker having been neutralized. Either Chaotix is lying scum, or...

I need the "doctors" alive for tonight, but - for now, I'll assume Chaotix is not lying. If Chaotix tells the truth, it at least clears Daveshack and one other.

There are some confirmed innocents, and as many conditionally confirmed innocents. The second scum is the thorn in our side, however.

Vote: Diana

At the very least, her role is not at all useful here, everyone having accurately relayed their name - apparently. Certainly a nice cover for scum. Pull off a scum action and simply report the name which was given in-thread.

I'm not a fan of voting Diana here. Doesn't fit the kill pattern. There would also be a reason why Chaotix was blocked, there would have been a follow-up. She's remarkably organized and efficient as mafia, and although we're not making good progress here, I also don't see an intelligible pattern from the mafia kills or actions.

Something is not correct with these claims, Monty.

I'm not going to vote against you but I'm asking you to reconsider the evidence.

My preference is on DaveShack or Chaotix, as I said. You're leaving their claims to be verified too late in the game, IMO.

I need Chaotix alive for at least this one night.

Daveshack is conditionally cleared. In the interest of sparing those cleared from attacks, I can not reveal more. I would ask you to follow me on this.

The kill pattern is quite clear. Tracker, then roleblocker. One of the doctors should be next.

You want me to vote for my beloved Diana when I don't even think she's mafia?

What is this, some kind of getting kicked in the gonads test?

Do I get to tell you I told you so when the game is over? Given the low activity and voting, you might actually need my vote just to make sure this thing doesn't go pear-shaped. I just want to know how sure you are on this.

She is the least-useful role remaining - a good cover, as I noted - and so the preferred lynchee as we prepare for tonight's gambit. The gambit really requires Chaotix to cover a loose end.

Low activity is not a problem as long as we keep to the 48-hour days, as everyone votes eventually.

@Arjos, could you please repeat what you did and what happened to you on the original N2?

Make sure to check your PMs.

I protected Diana, but unfortunately there was no attack...
Pizza's point are quite valid, but I have no problem in following the Doc's plan...

Still Diana seemed ok to me, even though that protection doesn't tell much...

Alright, yes. If Diana visited Arjos that night - as confirmed by edse - and Arjos was not blocked or killed, then that's good evidence for her being town.

Unvote; Vote: Ishmael

He's the next-least useful.

Frankly, like Pizza said, lynching based on the usefulness of the ability seems more like wasting a lynch...
The symmetry in the roles was making a lot of sense, and it still does.
As it is DaveShack is the one sticking out.

Vote: DaveShack