Re: Edward Snowden, Hero or Traitor?
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Originally Posted by
Fisherking
Now, back to Snowden.
Just food for thought but:
The Espionage Act is about giving secrets to Enemy Governments with which we are at war.
All these leakers are being charged with it, does this mean the government considers its people as an enemy with which they are at war?
No - because the leaks are being released to everyone and the US is at war with Muslim Terrorists, and the leaks benefit them. The internal logic is sound
Re: Edward Snowden, Hero or Traitor?
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Originally Posted by
Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla
No - because the leaks are being released to everyone and the US is at war with Muslim Terrorists, and the leaks benefit them. The internal logic is sound
Yeah, you bet. They just happen to be benefiting the US public. Government abuse covering its tracks with prosecutions.
No, thank you very much, but hell no!
Re: Edward Snowden, Hero or Traitor?
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Originally Posted by
Franconicus
You think torture and surveillance may be necessary from time to time? Is this what the War of Independence was for? Are you a supporter Stalin's and Mao's ideas :inquisitive:
Yes.
With serious terrorism, I do.
I can imagine instances where atrocities are imminent, and a lead is available if uncooperative.
I want that information.
I don't want to waterboard him because he's a bad man, I want him waterboarded because lesser methods have failed and an experienced interrogator believe it will extract the answers needed.
If a pleasant manner and a sympathetic approach gets the answer great.
If blackmailing him with sending his gay-porn to his deeply religious father gets the results brilliant.
If physical harm is considered to be ineffective given the chaps character, absolutely don't do it.
I'm not american, I don't have a dog in the legacy of independence race.