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Perpetually? ~;)
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Originally Posted by JAG
i really liked the existentialism link
it confirmed much of what i use to argue against arbitrariness
i would be an existentialist if it wasn't for my seeming inability to buy the whole "responsibility" of myself and for others.
existentialism is not nihilism, but i believe that it breeds it - simply because the faux-ethics of personal responsibility are such bunk
the negation of a system of judgement at "the end" coupled with varying desires in the material realm are conducive only to barbarism to so many people, not enlightenment (even though the writer of the document you have provided so intensely believes so)
because i cannot buy this - i will not be satisfied to agree with the final point of his argument
i will keep searching for truth - i will hopefully know it if i find it - and until then - i will pursue what i believe to be altruistic and difficult - because nothing matters anyway and it makes me feel like i am doing something meaningful - even though meaningful is probably as shallow a concept as anything else
who knows
thanks for the link
oppose abortion and gay marriage
Will you two get a room?
I thought this was the conservative club.
*runs and ducks*
:gring:
It tells us that you are really a conservative. I am not quite sure how to prove this, though. Perhaps we could base it on the mathematical proof of 1 = 2 ? ~;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JAG
Well Gawain may I get on the list :balloon2: :balloon2:
If i can't dont worry I wont be like jag and post uninvited ~:cheers:
Well Id have to make up a new one but yes your accepted.Quote:
Well Gawain may I get on the list
Anyone can post here. Jags just a gate crasher.Quote:
If i can't dont worry I wont be like jag and post uninvite
What do you guys think we should do with illegal immigrants we cant let them in and we cant gun them down as they cross both of those ideas are not good what can we do.
hunt down the people that brig them across and shoot them??
this is a real problem the smugglers are getting bold
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/breaking/070205border.php
mabey make a new branch of military thats ONLY job is to patrol borders. I mean using military equipment tanks helicopters artillery..... fire some warning shots first then charge.
Would cost to much money though
Just build a wall like the Israelis. Afew may still get through but that would make it tuff and yes its worth the money.
Were it up to me, I'd make use of something similar to predator drones to patrol the border. They can stay in flight for hours and are equipped with IR/night vision. They should be used to spot illegal aliens crossing the border, then dispatch agents to respond from depots spread out every 10 or so miles. ~:cool:
The military has been and is used along the border doing numerous things. Most of it has been scaled back because of troop committments and the fact that there was a big uproar when an individual was killed by a marine manned outpost.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceasar010
Thats what i dont get how can there be an uproar when one is attacked they are invading our country and taking our jobs. They can shoot at our people and we cant shoot back?
Many of them are in latino gangs too and cause further trouble there.
Saw a thing on cnn and a thing on foxe news both are equally biased.
Cnn made them all look like tax paying good people :dizzy2:
Fox showed a bunch of them carying tec 9s and made them sound like they are worse the osama.
both of them showed the extreme sides
And you claim to be from Israel. LOL - now that is funny. They are illegal immigrants - not invaders. They should be captured and return to their country of orgin - not shot out of hand because they happen to stumble across an armed outpost.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceasar010
Bysides that the individual shot was already a citizen of the nation - it just was unfortunate for him that the marines were on alert for smugglers, and he happened to fire in the direction of the marines while out hunting. The marines acted in accordance with their training and fired back.
So no the military and the police are allowed to fire back if they are shot at.
A border problem that has been around for the last 30 plus years. Enforcement of current laws is what is needed. Better manning of the border patrol to insure complaince with the law, and when better policing by local police. When they stop an individual for a traffic violation and he doesn't have a license - they should check into status and do the right thing by the law and detain any illegal immigrant they find violating the law - even if its a simple law. That is part of the problem, local juristication refuse to arrest and detain illegal immirgants for the INS.Quote:
Many of them are in latino gangs too and cause further trouble there.
Many are good and decent people - unfortunately they are not legal immigrants and therefor do not pay taxes correctly, and futhermore are exploited by their employeers more often then not.Quote:
Saw a thing on cnn and a thing on foxe news both are equally biased.
Cnn made them all look like tax paying good people :dizzy2:
If they stated that its less then 10% of most of the illegal immigrants then it pretty accurate. If they did not provide statistics about the precentage of illegals who are murdering scumbags - then yes its an unbalanced report.Quote:
Fox showed a bunch of them carying tec 9s and made them sound like they are worse the osama.
both of them showed the extreme sides
No, Ceaser044 claims to be from Israel. This is the guy who used to log in a lot when Capo/Kaiser first started coming around, last summer.
What ever happened to capo havent seen him on sense i got back.
Did I not say that - he claims to be from Israel - and in his profile has as his location the U.S. Again that would imply that either he is living in the United States illegally or is a legal immigrant, on a student visa, or a member of a family whose parents are on legal visa here in the United States.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don Corleone
Wrong ceasar 44 is from Israel this one is number 010 and is from the US. I guess he was riegned prior to 44 . ~:) Made the same mistake myself almostQuote:
Did I not say that - he claims to be from Israel - and in his profile has as his location the U.S. Again that would imply that either he is living in the United States illegally or is a legal immigrant, on a student visa, or a member of a family whose parents are on legal visa here in the United States.
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And lastly is ceasar010 the same person as ceasar44? If so he will need some re education before being accepted
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No i am not ceasar44 who ever he is???
I posted alot before rome came out today is my first time back.
does this prove me being with the right
My mistake then - got to check the glasses and learn to look at number instead of just names.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny
Hes living out his fantasies in Germany. ~DQuote:
What ever happened to capo havent seen him on sense i got back.
Capo moved to germany ~:confused: when did that happen
Hes just traveling there.. he'll be back before winter.
Question on the illegals.
Why is nothing being done by our esteemed prez on this critical issue?
I feel like we are getting the shaft on this. Border security is national security. Nevermind the flood of impoverished masses who leech from the citizenry, breed like flies, and spread crime like disease. This is a national security issue first!
Please tell me. WTF?
BTW: here is a true horror story you can tell your friends and family:
Background:
As you all know, illegal immigrants are not eligible for welfare. However, if they spit out a couple of brats when they cross the border the parents get to stay AND the newly minted citizens, being below the poverty line, are elligible for welfare. So who gets the money and food stamps? The illegals of course.
The horror:
A close friend of mine is a barber at a barbershop and gets about 60-70% of sales + tips as her wages. This is equal to roughly $4k per month. She is also a fine American, and refuses to report low on her income, even though she could easily get away with it. So she reports every dime and sees it as the cost of doing business.
Well, every year the computer spits out her yearly sales and she compares it against what she totaled up each month. She also works with an illegal immigrant. A bonafide, no bullshit, spit my kids out on U.S. soil illegal. Anyhow, she works with this illegal day in and day out and never reported her because (1) the border patrol doesn't care about uno illegal and (2) her boss is a flaming biatch who would fire her and she doesn't wan't the heartache of going through the resulting lawsuit for unfair termination.
So as she was collecting up her annual statement she asked "Blanca" if she wanted her yearly sales receipt. Then she cut herself off. Because "Blanca" does not pay any taxes. Becasue she is illegal.
So Blanca save thousands in taxes AND she gets the welfare and food stamps for her little dirt-birth citizens for claiming income below the poverty line. And she goes to the ER for everything. Even colds. And her kids are getting a fine U.S. education.
Probably because Bush's friends in Texas rely on cheap immigrant labor.
Seriously, Bush sucks on immigration.
If we build a wall they will dig under it so how can we keep them out I dont want our soldiers to shoot them... I dont care a thing about them but i think if our soldiers open fire on them it might mess with their heads.
maybe make a minute man like project on the WHOLE border they were effective
minefields along the border, goes for Canada too.
Joking.
1) Illegal immigration should not be a capital crime. I respect the hell out of anyone that would risk their life crossing a desert to improve the lot of their children. I may not agree with their right to be here and try to deport them, but shame on you for punishing their desire to improve themselves.
2) The reason nothing is being done about it is that it's one of the few issues both parties agree on. It's just middle America that doesn't like it. Republicans like it because it keeps the price of labor artificially low. Democrats like it because they see a whole new 'victim' class they can woo with promises of entitlements.
Erm, can I have some conservative feedback on my post from Don's WOT thread? Have I gone off the deep end? Am I the only person on this entire board who is thinking this way?
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Originally Posted by Proletariat
I agree. America and our allies come first... If its beneficial to terminate the whole family unit, so be it. It'll give the liberals something to whine about for the next 30 years..
Ive been saying that for ages but not as eloquently. We must show they we are serious and will never given in. That we are just as determined if not more so to destroy them than they are us.This is a battle of wills. Every sign of weakness only encourages them and gives them cause to claim victory. Its us or them people wake up and smell the coffee.I just dont get how some people are so blind and naive. ~:confused:
Can you imagine in WW2 if the press reported US atrocities all the time and believe me there were a lot more than there are today and gave a running body count. Imagine all the republican leaders saying its FDRs war? Suppose the press got wind of the rumor he knew of the attack on pearl harbor? Were at war. The left has now come to believe that undermining our war effort is somehow patriotism. Everytime one of them makes a stement like Dean on our troops being like Nazis it does moredamge than just about anything. You want to squable about the war do it behind closed doors not out in public for politcal capital. The dems use Nam and watergate as their templates. Their only hope is that we loose. It seems that Bin Laden also uses Nam as his template. He doesnt believe we have the stomach for the fight. Weve grown soft since WW2.
Sorry to tresspass by writing in your hallowed hall , but .....
If its beneficial to terminate the whole family unit, so be it.
Are you quoting someone at the Wannsee Conference there Panzer . :help:
I would not say that we have grown soft, but rather that we are facing a new enemy, with whose style of fighting we are not familiar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gawain of Orkeny