Rome: Total Gameplay (RTG), compatible with vanilla RTW v1.5

The Macedonians

Pre-Marius (PM) Units

Infantry

Early Militia Hoplites
https://img137.imageshack.us/img137/...tes1gt2.th.jpg

Early Pike Levy
https://img137.imageshack.us/img137/...men1ye6.th.jpg

Cavalry

Early Light Lancers
https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/...ers1kb3.th.jpg

Early Greek Cavalry
https://img137.imageshack.us/img137/...lry1lb2.th.jpg

Early General’s Bodyguards
https://img98.imageshack.us/img98/79...ral1sm8.th.jpg

After-Marius (AM) Units

Infantry

Sword Hoplites
https://img133.imageshack.us/img133/...tes1up8.th.jpg

Hypaspists
https://img144.imageshack.us/img144/...sts1ib1.th.jpg

Armoured Hoplites
https://img90.imageshack.us/img90/64...tes1vh3.th.jpg

Missiles

Ballistas
https://img99.imageshack.us/img99/34...tas1uk3.th.jpg

Onagers
https://img133.imageshack.us/img133/...ers1uc0.th.jpg

Cavalry

Heavy Cavalry
https://img144.imageshack.us/img144/...lry1oo1.th.jpg

Companions
https://img99.imageshack.us/img99/83...ons1aj9.th.jpg

General’s Bodyguards
https://img90.imageshack.us/img90/52...ral1fg4.th.jpg

Units Unaffected By Reforms

Infantry

Macedonian Officer Core
https://img224.imageshack.us/img224/...ore1rd4.th.jpg

Phalanx Pikemen
https://img137.imageshack.us/img137/...men1es8.th.jpg

Missiles

Peltasts
https://img98.imageshack.us/img98/93...sts1ie8.th.jpg

Cretan Archers
https://img212.imageshack.us/img212/...ers1bk1.th.jpg

Archers
https://img133.imageshack.us/img133/...ers1fg8.th.jpg

Note: the unit names used above are for simplified illustrative purposes only, and may be completely different in the next release.

Furthermore, none of the artwork featured in this preview was completed by myself. It is the featured artwork of several members of the TW community who have generously permitted me to use it in this modification.

The Germanic Tribes

Pre-Marius (PM) Units

Infantry

Early Warband
https://img95.imageshack.us/img95/50...and1ze4.th.jpg

Early Axemen
https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/...men1yz8.th.jpg

Cavalry

Early Barbarian Cavalry
https://img91.imageshack.us/img91/28...cav1ri3.th.jpg

Early General’s Bodyguards
https://img91.imageshack.us/img91/13...ral1yv5.th.jpg

After-Marius (AM) Units

Infantry

Heavy Infantry
https://img80.imageshack.us/img80/54...try1ld6.th.jpg

Chosen Swordsmen
https://img152.imageshack.us/img152/...men1ce9.th.jpg

Axemen
https://img81.imageshack.us/img81/40...men1jz4.th.jpg

Berserkers
https://img147.imageshack.us/img147/...ers1gz7.th.jpg

Missiles

Chosen Archers
https://img147.imageshack.us/img147/...ers1rw3.th.jpg

Onagers
https://img80.imageshack.us/img80/42...ers1ji9.th.jpg

Cavalry

Noble Cavalry
https://img80.imageshack.us/img80/71...cav1id2.th.jpg

Imperial Cavalry
https://img80.imageshack.us/img80/59...cav1ek4.th.jpg

General’s Bodyguards
https://img147.imageshack.us/img147/...ral1pe0.th.jpg

Units Unaffected By Reforms

Infantry

Night Raiders
https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/...ers1bp8.th.jpg

Naked Fanatics
https://img155.imageshack.us/img155/...ics1fs1.th.jpg

Chosen Axemen
https://img137.imageshack.us/img137/...xes1oo3.th.jpg

Missiles

Peltasts
https://img137.imageshack.us/img137/...ers1ql3.th.jpg

Cavalry

Wardogs
https://img137.imageshack.us/img137/...ogs1xe4.th.jpg

Note: the unit names used above are for simplified illustrative purposes only, and may be completely different in the next release.

Furthermore, none of the artwork featured in this preview was completed by myself. It is the featured artwork of several members of the TW community who have generously permitted me to use it in this modification.

The Parthian Empire

Pre-Marius (PM) Units

Infantry

Early Hillmen
https://img90.imageshack.us/img90/86...men1sn6.th.jpg

Cavalry

Early Horse Archers
https://img77.imageshack.us/img77/54...ers1dz4.th.jpg

Early General’s Bodyguards
https://img90.imageshack.us/img90/50...ral1gu3.th.jpg

After-Marius (AM) Units

Infantry

Hillmen
https://img155.imageshack.us/img155/...men1bh1.th.jpg

Missiles

Onagers
https://img154.imageshack.us/img154/...ers1pg2.th.jpg

Cavalry

War Elephants
https://img154.imageshack.us/img154/...nts1rj3.th.jpg

Persian Cavalry
https://img145.imageshack.us/img145/...lry1yk9.th.jpg

Cataphracts
https://img154.imageshack.us/img154/...cts1zj8.th.jpg

Cataphract Camels
https://img155.imageshack.us/img155/...els1ba9.th.jpg

General’s Bodyguards
https://img145.imageshack.us/img145/...ral1wj2.th.jpg

Units Unaffected By Reforms

Infantry

Eastern Infantry
https://img77.imageshack.us/img77/65...try1hv4.th.jpg

Missiles

Slingers
https://img77.imageshack.us/img77/93...ers1lz2.th.jpg

Archers
https://img140.imageshack.us/img140/...ers1xv4.th.jpg

Note: the unit names used above are for simplified illustrative purposes only, and may be completely different in the next release.

Furthermore, none of the artwork featured in this preview was completed by myself. It is the featured artwork of several members of the TW community who have generously permitted me to use it in this modification.

The Seleucid Empire

Pre-Marius (PM) Units

Infantry

Early Militia Hoplites
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7...tes1px3.th.jpg

Early Pike Levy
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/5...men1pc8.th.jpg

Cavalry

Early Greek Cavalry
https://img136.imageshack.us/img136/...lry1zw2.th.jpg

Early Elephants
https://img291.imageshack.us/img291/...nts1lc3.th.jpg

Early General’s Bodyguards
https://img136.imageshack.us/img136/...ral1ri6.th.jpg

After-Marius (AM) Units

Infantry

Sword Hoplites
https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/...tes1ws4.th.jpg

Armoured Hoplites
https://img100.imageshack.us/img100/...tes1bd1.th.jpg

Argyraspid Pikemen
https://img146.imageshack.us/img146/...men1fo3.th.jpg

Legionaries
https://img146.imageshack.us/img146/...des1fi1.th.jpg

https://img100.imageshack.us/img100/...des2qb1.th.jpg

Missiles

Ballistas
https://img152.imageshack.us/img152/...tas1vn3.th.jpg

Onagers
https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/...ers1ge7.th.jpg

Cavalry

War Elephants
https://img112.imageshack.us/img112/...nts1pj3.th.jpg

Cataphract Elephantés
https://img228.imageshack.us/img228/...nts1so3.th.jpg

Cataphracts
https://img228.imageshack.us/img228/...cts1ii0.th.jpg

Companions
https://img133.imageshack.us/img133/...ons1sf7.th.jpg

General’s Bodyguards
https://img133.imageshack.us/img133/...ral1sc4.th.jpg

Units Unaffected By Reforms

Infantry

Phalanx Pikemen
https://img291.imageshack.us/img291/...men1rh6.th.jpg

Seleucid Officer Core
https://img107.imageshack.us/img107/...ore1hm9.th.jpg

Missiles

Peltasts
https://img291.imageshack.us/img291/...sts1it0.th.jpg

Archers
https://img112.imageshack.us/img112/...ers1kj7.th.jpg

Cavalry

Militia Cavalry
https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/...lry1qa6.th.jpg

Note: the unit names used above are for simplified illustrative purposes only, and may be completely different in the next release.

Furthermore, none of the artwork featured in this preview was completed by myself. It is the featured artwork of several members of the TW community who have generously permitted me to use it in this modification.

The Gallic Tribes

Pre-Marius (PM) Units

Infantry

Early Warband
https://img156.imageshack.us/img156/...and1jd9.th.jpg

Early Swordsmen
https://img145.imageshack.us/img145/...men1nm7.th.jpg

Early Chosen Swordsmen
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/70...men1tu1.th.jpg

Missiles

Early Skirmishers
https://img145.imageshack.us/img145/...ers1xc4.th.jpg

Cavalry

Early Barbarian Cavalry
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/57...cav1gg1.th.jpg

Early General’s Bodyguards
https://img156.imageshack.us/img156/...ral1zw9.th.jpg

After-Marius (AM) Units

Infantry

Warband
https://img226.imageshack.us/img226/...and1ul3.th.jpg

Swordsmen
https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/...men1tt2.th.jpg

Heavy Infantry
https://img228.imageshack.us/img228/...try1vw0.th.jpg

Chosen Swordsmen
https://img142.imageshack.us/img142/...men1ii9.th.jpg

Missiles

Heavy Skirmishers
https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/...sts1qb9.th.jpg

Foresters
https://img153.imageshack.us/img153/...ers1tu3.th.jpg

Onagers
https://img213.imageshack.us/img213/...ers1fb2.th.jpg

Cavalry

Noble Cavalry
https://img105.imageshack.us/img105/...cav1db4.th.jpg

Imperial Cavalry
https://img153.imageshack.us/img153/...cav1kl8.th.jpg

General’s Bodyguards
https://img153.imageshack.us/img153/...ral1cx4.th.jpg

Units Unaffected By Reforms

Infantry

Night Raiders
https://img156.imageshack.us/img156/...ers1eo5.th.jpg

Naked Fanatics
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/96...ics1dc1.th.jpg

Druids
https://img67.imageshack.us/img67/72...ids1kk9.th.jpg

Cavalry

Wardogs
https://img226.imageshack.us/img226/...ogs1nt9.th.jpg

Note: the unit names used above are for simplified illustrative purposes only, and may be completely different in the next release.

Furthermore, none of the artwork featured in this preview was completed by myself. It is the featured artwork of several members of the TW community who have generously permitted me to use it in this modification.

last minute requests: change Naked Fantics name to Gaesetae (sorry if mispelled) after RTG V03: make Early Legionary Cohort the only infantry Romans (but you can still recruit auxillia and town watch) can recruit unitil a new reform called Augustus Reforms at 46 BC. (then Legionary Cohort will replace Early Legionary Cohort and you can recruit Praetorians) this would be good so Romans wont be strong. (and a bit more historical accurate though 46 BC is the birth date of Augustus)
perhaps if i learn to script i can do that for you? ~D (if you like the idea) btw EB has multiple reforms so it is possible. (perhaps i can ask them? if not in the scriptorium tutorials)

Don't worry about the naming convention I've used in the faction previews Spartan, they were just for illustrative purposes. I'd thought about putting the names into Latin, but since my Latin vocabulary doesn't exist, they might as well stay in English for the next version ~D

I haven't thought about scripting in more than one reform, but as you say its possible since other projects such as EB have acheived this. What has been done though is to restrict Praetorians and First Cohorts to only a handful of settlements. Without double-checking the script, I think these 3 units (Early First Cohort, First Cohort, Praetorians) are now only available in the 4 Roman starting capitals. This should make thing interesting ~D

Also, legionaries (both early and standard) are now only recruitable in the Italian peninsular and Sicily. This is 12 regions in total, so again this will force a player to retrain legionary cohorts back in the original Italian regions. Auxiliaries can still be raised in frontline settlements, as was probably the case during Roman times.

Tbh, I need to tweak the ZOR quite a bit from how it was in v0.2. Chariots have gone, so I've already removed that hidden resource from the files. What would be good is to set-up more regional hidden resources / ZORs, so this can restrict unit recruitment to logical areas. For example, it seems strange to be able to recruit Desert Spearmen on the frozen Steppes; might take a while though ~D

Quote:

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Originally Posted by The Spartan

good news! ive done what you told me to do and...success! no crashes! here are pics of the results:
https://img78.imageshack.us/img78/2905/00037mo.jpg
A charge between nubian spearmen and german spear warband. no swords.
https://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6006/00042cn.jpg
Battle continues no sword!
https://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8107/00057uv.th.jpg
Battle is about the end and no sword appears! Task 1 Complete!
How I Did This: In Export Descr Unit.txt change this:
6, 2, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,1 (from Nile Spearmen)
to this: 0, 0, no, 0, 0, , no, no, no, 25 ,1 (dont change the 25,1) I got the first example from nile spearmen all you do is change the numbers to 0 melee, simple, piercing, to no. and spear to none. the stats for the secondary weapon is now deleted.
In Descr Model Battle change this: fs_spearman, fs_s1_swordsman and delete fs_s1_swordsman and the comma. it should look like this after that:
fs_spearman notice no comma.
Hoplite Modification Results
https://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8106/00061dq.jpg
A battle between Armoured Hoplites and Phalanx Pikemen. (Hoplites here use overarm and the pikemen use underarm)
https://img233.imageshack.us/img233/4717/00073xj.jpg
Battle commences.
https://img61.imageshack.us/img61/5550/00084uq.jpg
As you can see no one is using a sword just thrusting away.
https://img66.imageshack.us/img66/6788/00090xn.jpg
BUT, as you can see the men in the rear; if they fight someone they wont lower their spears so it looks like he is punching him.
https://img148.imageshack.us/img148/1754/00148xn.jpg
look! the pikemen on the far left ducks the hoplites attack!
https://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4255/00154ed.jpg
at least this one has his spear down.

How I did this: all you do is the same thing for nubian spearmen but to all pikemen and hoplites dont forget the mercenary hoplite! if there is a fourth word after no, write none. example:
0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none,
and thats all!

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I've finally got round to making these secondary weapon adjustments. Many have now been removed from various infantry and cavalry types, including swords, axes and maces.

I know that the hoplites / phalangites have a few issues at close range hand-to-hand, but at least they cannot switch to secondaries and break-off from the formation.

Also, in all the time I've played RTW, I've never seen the AI cavalry switch to secondary weapons whilst in melee. It was another reason why the secondaries needed to be removed ~D

im curius what was greek hoplites with shield wall like. i know it crashes if you play quick or historical battles but i think i can fix that. (historical battles dont work because the hoplites still use phalanx. i could go to the folder and edit a few things including the scripts for those battles. just change phalanx to shield wall. for quick battles,
Rome - Total War\Data\world\maps\custom\quick
and delete all the files there.

I think you need to use the mod: switch command line to make use of BI's shieldwall ability. There are alternatives though, such as a more tightly-packed formation. lt has already implemented this into his SPQR mod by the sounds of things, basically you just replace the 'loose formation' with an edited one. Obviously the edited 'loose formation' values would be smaller than the standard 'tight formation' in order for the units to form into a more tightly-packed line.

I've already tweaked unit spacing for many units, including the Romans. I'm not sure whether a tighter formation for the Greek factions would work that well with the phalanx ability. Also, you have to watch for things like 'testudo' formation and unit spacing, otherwise things can get a bit messy when the unit attempts to revert back to a nomral formation. Think this was bugged in an earlier vanilla version, but it did get fixed in a later patch.

Mercenary Recruitment Pools / AOR

I've used the featured artwork in RTG to create a few new mercenary units, here are some screenshots:

Mercenary Sword Hoplites
https://img521.imageshack.us/img521/...plites1wu2.jpg
Model by Professor Spatula, Reskin from webbird's Xmasbox

Mercenary Indian War Elephants
https://img521.imageshack.us/img521/...phants1yr0.jpg
Javelin crew model & reskin from LAca's Numdian Project, Reskinned Elephant from webbird's Xmasbox

Mercenary Eastern Slingers
https://img291.imageshack.us/img291/...ingers1km7.jpg
Reskin from webbird's Xmasbox

nice! javelins on elephants eh? what's it like?

I really like them, much better than the ineffective archer crews from vanilla. Especially when you give the javelin crews armour piercing abilities ~D

I've run a few simple tests with elephants, basically increased their charge bonus and attack stats. They now seem to do much more damage than previously, but the units they were tested on (various Roman infantry) still have the same attack / defense stats from v0.2. S'pose I'll have to overhaul all the attack & defence stats for all units first, then tweak the elephants charge bonus and attack stats again to get a polished version.

hey SA i found the EB animations pack! imo they are far more superior than S1 animations. but something that might intrest you is the two handed sarrisa animation. so pikemen will use two-handed animations. there are alot more in that link too. (its like S1 animations but way improved) and of course you will have to ask the EB team to use it. (but dont worry their friendly)

That's an interesting find Spartan. Tbh, RTW should've at least included orthodox 2-handed phalangite and mounted 2-handed spearmen / lancer animations, as they are seriously lacking in these areas. These would be the areas I would like to improve if the option were available, I think S1's animations continue to do a very good job on the battlefield ~D

Do you know who leads the EB team? I'd like to speak with them directly, or at the very least the person who created these animations. Alin looks to have been inactive for a while now from the link you've provided.

I've recently been granted permission to use elements of the Scythian models featured in this topic by Dark89, teamleader of RTR:

looking for scyths????

The Scythian models featured in this topic were created by the work of several authors.

I'm currently awaiting responses from webbird regarding his Scythian reskins and elements of his models, and also ATG regarding elements of his work that is featured in that topic.

Khelvan. dunno if hes very active so try Krusader or Tekeles Archelou (might have spelled it wrong) having both S1 and EB animations are good.

nice scyths. btw ever thought of giving legion names in RTW? (look at the tutorials in TWC)

Not really Spartan, I'm not that fussy about legionary first cohort names as other mods have already done. That's not to say I haven't spent time renaming the vanilla units, here's a few examples:

• Naked Fanatics --- [Faction Name] Fanatical Warriors
• Chosen Archers --- [Faction Name] Foot Archer Nobility
• Legionary Cohort --- Roman Legionaries
• Spartan Hoplites --- Spartan Guard

I could list them all, but it may take a few hours ~D

Anyways, I've been rebalancing the missile stats. I've got the javelins, javelin crews and slingers pretty much sorted, but I've only run a few simple tests on lightly, moderately and heavily-armoured units with fairly constant results.

Its been quite hard to achieve this, because certain projectiles need to do more / less damage depending on what attributes they have. EG armour-piercing, body-piercing, nothing etc. I've also adjusted the mount effects, and need to run some tests out in this area as well in relation to missile units.

btw if you have EB animations on...
give macedonian cavalry and any other cavalry (except roman, or barbarian, or greek cities) the two handed mounted spear animation.
any unit with a spear and no shiled the two handed spear animation.
any pikemen given two handed phalanx animation.
any greek cities cavalry a over head mounted animation.
and if you wanted give british light chariots javelin animation. (and javelins of course)
good luck
hope that helps.
and good luck with editing the stats!

Thanks, once (and if) I gain the necessary permissions from the EB team, I'll be intending to use pretty much what you've listed above. For example, the Sarmatians would use the two-handed mounted spearmen animation in order to use their two-handed kontos lance properly.

Just finished editing the rest of the missile stats, such as archers, horse archers, camel archers. I've scrapped all chariot units from the game, so there's no need to use javelin crews with them.

The MOD looks great and I'm glad to have found it! I look forward to giving it a try in the future! The New pic's done for units look great from your screen shots Thank You Gentlemen for the great work and effort you have made to this MOD.

:2thumbsup:

Thanks SkyElf. The release may not be for a while yet, as I've got some more areas to complete before the next version is ready. When it is though, I'll update the download links and related information on the first page.

Thanks.

The Scythian Tribes

Pre-Marius (PM) Units

Infantry

Early Warband
https://img221.imageshack.us/img221/...and1gg8.th.jpg

Missiles

Early Archers
https://img142.imageshack.us/img142/...ers1mx7.th.jpg

Cavalry

Early Barbarian Cavalry
https://img215.imageshack.us/img215/...lry1dz6.th.jpg

Early Head Hunters
https://img221.imageshack.us/img221/...ers1hx3.th.jpg

Early Horse Archers
https://img146.imageshack.us/img146/...ers1xy5.th.jpg

Early General’s Bodyguards
https://img215.imageshack.us/img215/...ral1io5.th.jpg

After-Marius (AM) Units

Infantry

Warband
https://img142.imageshack.us/img142/...and1oc2.th.jpg

Missiles

Chosen Archers
https://img142.imageshack.us/img142/...ers1rp7.th.jpg

Archers
https://img84.imageshack.us/img84/26...ers1xs0.th.jpg

Onagers
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/...ers1qn8.th.jpg

Cavalry

Scythian Nobles
https://img142.imageshack.us/img142/...les1xk5.th.jpg

Sarmatians
https://img142.imageshack.us/img142/...ans1xu3.th.jpg

Noble Women
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/...men1sa4.th.jpg

Noble Archers
https://img142.imageshack.us/img142/...les1tw2.th.jpg

General’s Bodyguards
https://img216.imageshack.us/img216/...ral1ta9.th.jpg

Units Unaffected By Reforms

Infantry

Axemen
https://img423.imageshack.us/img423/...men1kx7.th.jpg

Axe Maidens
https://img149.imageshack.us/img149/...xes1hz7.th.jpg

Missiles

Skirmishers
https://img215.imageshack.us/img215/...ers1qb0.th.jpg

Cavalry

Wardogs
https://img215.imageshack.us/img215/...ogs1gp7.th.jpg

Note: the unit names used above are for simplified illustrative purposes only, and may be completely different in the next release.

Furthermore, none of the artwork featured in this preview was completed by myself. It is the featured artwork of several members of the TW community who have generously permitted me to use it in this modification.

im gonna say ir here instead of at TWC. what took so long to get the Scythians up?

The Scythian Models were made by webbird, but he did use some model parts from RTR and ATG's units, so I needed to request permission from all part creator's before building the units. AFAIK, webbird made the reskins as well.

Also, these previews are quite time-consuming; they take roughly 45 minutes to put together. Multiply it by 16 for each preview and you can see its kept me busy ~D

Quote:

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Originally Posted by The Spartan

btw Spartans can be defeated by Royal Pikemen.Imo they should be stronger. they Imo should be the strongest greek culture unit.

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I've just run a few tests in custom battles with Spartans vs Royal Pikemen, Spartans vs Royal (or Armoured) Hoplites, and Spartans vs Praetorians.

Originally, the Spartans devastated the Royal Pikemen and Royal Hoplites, so I reduced the Spartans hitpoints from 3 to 2. This made things more interesting, but the Spartans still came out on top, but with more casualties as a result.

However, the Spartans with 2 hitpoints didn't do to well against the Praetorians. The 2 times I tested this 1v1, the Spartans only killed about roughly half of the Praetorians before being finished off, even though they started with the higher killing ratio.

I think it was to do with the way the Spartans formation gradually disintegrated, and the Praetorians surrounded them from both flanks each time. This may change if I implement Darth's formations, but then again it might not. Guess its the old sword is better than spear issue, or the fact that the Praetorians are heavily armoured.

try DM formations. but thats probably not the problem.

Thanks to the research from wlesmana and the tutorial from Dol Guldur, boiling oil has now been removed from gateway defences. Since the unit stat system incorporates multiple hitpoints, the effects of the oil were downgraded from how this feature functioned in vanilla.

is it possbile to make rams more ressitante to fire arrows? they burn to easily when trying to break down stonewall gates.

Yeah, I've noticed this a while ago and decided to wait for some feedback on it ~D I'll have a look into this before the next release, its quite important because the AI builds rams against stone walls, whereas the should really be building 9 siege towers to challenge the human defender ~D