The Will of the Senate - out of character thread II

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Originally Posted by econ21

Finally, are we agree on updating to 4TPY 1.9.3 as TinCow recommends? I'm particularly interested in our Senate Fixer's (DDW) stamp of approval. If he could indicate how I should revise the installation instructions in the FAQ, I'd be grateful. This is probably an issue we should finalise when he has navigated the Rapidshare issue.

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I am not really worried about the 4TPY 1.9.3 upgrade. If it turns out to be buggy it will be easy to downgrade again, but I would be suprised if this is the case. It should not be possible for the 4TPY mod to corrupt the savegame.
I'm 60 % done uploading and will be finished this time tomorrow night I think. I hope TinCow will continue experimenting with the upgrade in the main time. His experiences seem to be good so far.

p.s. and welcome to the senate Hannibal99 !

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Originally Posted by Death the destroyer of worlds

I hope TinCow will continue experimenting with the upgrade in the main time. His experiences seem to be good so far.

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Since I tested it out, I've been trying to get RTRPE 1.6 with the latest Metro & Naval Mod working on the BI engine. I'm particularly keen on trying this after reading about the more challenging AI that results, but I've hit a brick wall and can't reference the instructions again until the RTR forums come back.

I had actually thought that FLYdude had already upgraded to 1.9.3 because Marcellus Aemilius came of age without any of the buggy traits.

The mod files required to play as a lower house senator in this campaign have been uploaded at RapidShare.

It is a 7-part spanned zip file containing :

1. RTR_Platinum.exe
This is RTR Platinum 1.4

2. RTR_Platinum_v1.5_Patch.exe
This is the upgrade from RTR 1.4 to RTR 1.5

3. M_Nmod.exe
This is the version of the M&N mod compatible with RTR 1.5

4. HarbourLandBlock.zip
This is a zip containing the map fixes and installation instructions

You will need a vanilla RTW 1.5 install before installing ! If there is need I can upload the RTW patches also.

Before you can commence play you will have to delete all occurences of the map.rwm file in the total war directory and its subdirectories (don't worry if they reappear later, that's ok).

Here are the download links :

http://rapidshare.de/files/25686658/senate.z01.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/25688655/senate.z02.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/25771083/senate.z03.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/25773359/senate.z04.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/25776092/senate.z05.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/25778395/senate.z06.html

http://rapidshare.de/files/25778948/senate.zip.html

All files are 76 MB. The last one is 16 MB (Total : 76 * 6 + 16 = 472 MB).
The files have been zipped with WinZip, but any decent extractor will suffice I expect. There is no guarantee as yet that my upload is not corrupted. That will have to be tested. Any volunteers ?

EDIT: Econ21, would you be so kind as to adjust the instructions in the FAQ ?

thanks Death looking forward to voting

Edit: Woops generalhankerchef took marcellus

Argh, I don't know which to download. I've got all the mods except the landblocks.

Should I just re download it all? But I want to keep the save game I have... Decisons decisions.

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Originally Posted by Tiberius

Argh, I don't know which to download. I've got all the mods except the landblocks.

Should I just re download it all? But I want to keep the save game I have... Decisons decisions.

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Well, unfortunately you will need to download it all to get the landblocks file, but I can upload just the landblocks tonight if you want that. I do not think installing the landblocks later on is savegame compatible, so you will need to delete the map.rwm files and start a new campaign unfotunately.

Thanks for uploading all that, DDW - it is a good resource for people who want to join the campaign from now on. I'll alter the FAQ shortly to reflect it.

Tiberius - the landblock fix is very small, so I've uploaded it onto the Org's PBM uploader. The file is called HarborLandBlock.zip.

I’d dearly love to play in the Lower House but I still don’t have a working PC at home (apart from a pretty poor laptop for emergency access only). :no:

I’ll stick with Decius for now.

OK, I'll assign Marcus Aemilius to GeneralHankerchief and await his instruction for transfering him to the Lower House.

Quintus Naevius goes to Shadeswolf.

Hannibal99, if you are active posting and voting, you'll probably be at the top of the list for the next general spawned. There are no active Upper House Senators now without avatars.

With Quintus's Bio post now blank, I'm turning it into a general info area for family members. Starting with the next update I will include info on the names and ages of underage family members, so people will know exactly when to expect more avatars to be available.

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Originally Posted by econ21

Tiberius - the landblock fix is very small, so I've uploaded it onto the Org's PBM uploader. The file is called HarborLandBlock.zip.

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Good thinking, Econ21, now why didn't I think of that ?

DDW, I can test the Rapidshare sometime on Sunday (it's Friday morning now) to see if everything works.

If all goes well I shall inform you all and officially transfer to the Lower House.

And welcome to the PBM Hannibal99! ~:wave:

That would be great, GeneralHankerchief. I'll try to make some time to test it myself this weekend. Luckily the download should be a lot speedier than the upload :laugh4:

There was some discussion about allowing people with low post counts to access the avatars (Org avatars - ie pictures) they wanted. At one stage, it looked like this was going to lead to all Org members being given free access to all the standard (non-custom) avatars. I've now raised this issue in the Watchtower:

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=66971

It's a poll, so if you want you can vote without having to post a reason.

Just out of curiosity, what ever happened to that Macedonian army that was kick out of Aquileia after you guys bought the province? Is it still lurking up there in ambush or has it moved off? If it is still there, looks like an easy target for Legio II, with it being trap and isolated, right?

The Macodnian army is still up there. It is literally stuck between the Venetian fort and Aquileia, and cannot exit without attacking.

The problem is that shifty157, whose avatar is the commander of the nearby legion, has been missing. So, I'm not really sure if he'd be available for a battle.

shifty is pretty regularly posting on the Org, but mainly about modding. If you drop him a PM, I'm sure he'd let you know whether he was available to fight a battle or not. Or I can contact him if you want.

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Originally Posted by econ21

OK, I'll assign Marcus Aemilius to GeneralHankerchief and await his instruction for transfering him to the Lower House.

Quintus Naevius goes to Shadeswolf.

Hannibal99, if you are active posting and voting, you'll probably be at the top of the list for the next general spawned. There are no active Upper House Senators now without avatars.

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Ok econ well i wont be on alot this month. im going somewhere... ill be very active after that.

Congratulations on your first victory x-Danger !
Funny about the 'untouchable' Greek army. I knew it was possible, but it has yet to happen to me. The reason none of your men were healed is probably that you do not have a chirurgeon and so your men all died of tetanus and so on.

It was a defeat, and your men can't respawn after that, quite a shame.

econ: DoH is active on the org and I pmed him telling him that it would be a good idea to get active or drop his avatar, but he ignored it after reading it.

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Originally Posted by Tiberius

It was a defeat, and your men can't respawn after that, quite a shame.

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But no shame on X-danger, of course. In fact, kudos to him for not reloading - I would have been tempted to (impenetrable forcefields not being a feature of most Ancient battles).

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econ: DoH is active on the org and I pmed him telling him that it would be a good idea to get active or drop his avatar, but he ignored it after reading it.

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OK, he's free to drop by and confirm he would like to be in the Lower House. I know from past experience, lots of people sign up for PBMs and then, for one reason or another, can't find the time for it. Fortunately, this PBM has a structure and popularity that prevents this phenomenon being disruptive.

Looks like the AI marched onto the battlemap right into an unaccessable part of the map ~:(

I've seen units get stuck on the map plenty of times, but never trapped behind a un-navigable feature.

I've fought on that exact same battlefield before, but was playing with timer off. It's ridiculously annoying because the AI won't move at all. There actually IS a way to get at them, but it's very difficult. There is a gap wide enough for a single soldier to walk up on the left side right at the red line. It's difficult, but sometimes if you move a unit right into that area, then tell them to attack a unit close by on the other side of it, your men will move up there at a walk in single file. This takes forever and obviously results in high casualties since your men are heavily outnumbered when they get in there, but when I fought it I didn't have much of a choice.

It's a stupid buggy map and there's nothing that can be done about it. Try to avoid fighting in that exact same spot, since it always appears there.

As far as the Senate is concerned and for the official battle results chart, I don't think we should count this as a defeat.

Ok, I am beginning download of the Rapidshare files, although it was later than expected.

Judging by the amount of time it'll take I probably won't finish it/know whether it's buggy until Monday. Will keep you informed.

EDIT: Stupid Rapidshare makes you wait 70 minutes between downloads. This definitely ain't getting finished up tonight. Oh well...

Edit 2: Two out of six downloaded. So far the downloads themselves have progressed smoothly, but of course that means nothing. I'll do the other four (plus the one from the Org uploader) tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by TinCow

Try to avoid fighting in that exact same spot, since it always appears there.

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Maybe you could post a screenshot of the battle's location on the campaign map in the library at the time of the next Senate session? It does seem familiar to me - I recall having my reinforcements stuck behind some such rocks. IIRC, I found a way to extricate them (it involved withdrawing, then redirecting etc). But it was very frustrating.

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Originally Posted by econ21

Maybe you could post a screenshot of the battle's location on the campaign map in the library at the time of the next Senate session? It does seem familiar to me - I recall having my reinforcements stuck behind some such rocks. IIRC, I found a way to extricate them (it involved withdrawing, then redirecting etc). But it was very frustrating.

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I don't remember exactly where it was, but I'm pretty sure it was either on the Isthmus of Corinth or in one of the squares adjacent to it.

x-dANGEr, you need to clean out your PM box, 'tis full. In the interest of efficiency, here is the message you were supposed to receive, so you can get on it right away:

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Legate Pansa,

A small Greek army has "besieged" Corinth, where you are located. They are of little actual threat, and this is merely an insulting gesture. You are to sally forth and destroy them.

You are then to march on Athens if you are able to leave a sufficient garrison in Corinth. You may hire up to one unit of mercenaries to leave as garrison in addition to any troops of your army you won't need at Athens. If you do march on Athens, attack the army located just south of it. If you capture Athens, please occupy it with no enslavement. Good luck.

Tiberius Coruncanius.

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Savegame: http://www.totalwar.org/patrons/pbm/262win_1.zip

PS: If you have the statistics of your first battle at Corinth, please pass them to me. Also take screenshots of the statistics screens for your upcoming battles.

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I should note that the last battle at Athens happened on the tile directly west of Athens, with reinforcements coming from the city, which caused the problem.

I was waiting for your reply if you wanted me to replay the battle or not (Since I accidently moved in the city and Enslaved Populace..).

Anyway, I will now post the battle report, then do this battle.. ~:)

EDIT: Can you put my name in the Library somewhere !! 0-i

DDW, a problem/question.

Your first Rapidshare file, senate.z01 can't be unzipped. It "does not appear to be a valid archive." I am waiting for my waiting period to expire so I can re-download.

The others can be unzipped, but the only thing is that the only thing that shows up in WinZip is the still-zipped file, plus a couple extra MB. The only one that's worked properly is the landblock, which I DL'd from the Org uploader.

Is this just my technical non-knowledge or something bigger? Thanks.

Hiya GeneralHankerchief,

Thanks for going to the effort of downloading all this stuff.
It is actually one (1) big zip file split into many parts. You need only unzip the file marked .zip (senate.zip) and it will unzip the other files.

So just select the senate.zip file, right-click, and select ''extract to...'' and create a senate folder (or whatever).

Econ21, it might be handy to add this explanation to the download links

If this poses problems I will start downloading these buggers myself tomorrow.