Well Pete, your English is a lot better than my Russian.
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Well Pete, your English is a lot better than my Russian.
Glad to see a russian here, I love russia!
One of my lifetime goals is driving from one end of russia to the other end, but unfortunately I have to wait a bit till I can make this dream come true (finish school and uni first, and of course I must earn some money :sweatdrop: ).
The problem is that even if we know some foreign words and use them, we still don't know for sure, are we using them exactly they're meant to be used or not =(Quote:
Originally Posted by horst nordfink
The other problem is the way we are used to construct phrases.
I'm afraid there is and always will be a language barrier between us =(
That why even though I enjoy John le Carre novels and his rich upper-class (?) language, sometimes I'm not sure what was he trying to say =)
Have you sean or read "Motorcyclist diary"? Please expect all kinds of adventures Che Gevara had on that journey :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kampfkrebs
I was once told that Russian and English are the two hardest languages to learn. Trust me, your English is very good.
I would love to learn another language. I did learn French to a decent level at school, but I've forgotten it all now. I know a little German too.
The trouble is, everyone knows English wherever you go, so its easy to just get by on other peoples knowledge.
Well, at least we don't have so many different dialects and accents as Zee Germans do =)Quote:
Originally Posted by horst nordfink
English is very hard to learn....I often wonder how those that didn't learn it from infancy can even fully comprehend it.
Is it there, their, or they're? Is it deer or dear? Is it wear or where? So many of those types of words, even I get confused once in a great while, and I always got a's in english and spelling.
Your english is good. I say kudos to anyone who has learned a second language....I don't think I would have the patience.
~:cheers:
English hard to learn? I had a talk to a friend of mine some months ago about this, and we ended with a list of the most difficult languages in the world:
1. Chinese (All dialects) and asian languages in general, cause of the different alphabet and stuff.
2. The click-clack language of the aboriginies
3. Russian (again the different alphabet)
4. French :skull:
English is a language of traders and sailors, so it shouldnt be so difficult to learn, because in EVERY place of the world is at least someone who speaks a little little bit english (yes, the imperial age played of course a important role).
Well, for me as a german it doesnt seem so difficult, because german and english are both germanic languages, and I dont have that much problems learning english (even if my is quite terrible) as learning latin (which is a roman language).
So true! I could slap those damn bavarians with a large fish everytime they open their mouths and start like "sam habschon uf dr wiesn gwesn?". They are raping our language ;/Quote:
Well, at least we don't have so many different dialects and accents as Zee Germans do =)
Written characters aside, English is one of the hardest languages to learn. Most languages have a set of rules that you learn and follow for the language. English has a set of rules that it always contradicts itself.
The words of english are easy enough to learn.
Using those words properly and in the correct context is something else entirely, and very difficult to master.
http://www.magic-mushrooms.net/paddos.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by horst nordfink
Just don't use them
Somebody i know trashed his living room completely because he thought thousands of Smurfs (you know those little blue guy's with white heads) where attacking him
I don't agree with english being too hard to learn.
Well, I've always been told Portuguese is one of the harder languages to learn cause of the verbal constructions.
Cheers...
tis a sad day indeed though when many non-english speakers or those for who English is not a first language actually have a better command of English than many currently within our education system.
i.e. those who like to finish every sentence with 'yer know' or 'like' and wouldn't know the difference between there, their and they're if it were painted blue and danced on that beer filled table over there singing 'confusing grammar is here again'
Whoever you are you have no need to apologise for your English as its a lot better than some who speak it every day.
Slide me another beer Bootsiuv I'm getting a little depressed and morose and need a pick me up.......it's been a tough week...Customers they're a pain in the arse they always think their problem is the worst, I just wish occassionally they would stay right over there and leave me to surf
(see how I did that :2thumbsup: )
Tsk, tsk, tsk...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kampfkrebs
The saxons are raping german, we´re actually improving it.
And no true bavarian would ask someone from the rest of non-bavaria if he´s already been on the O-fest (foreign visitors from Australia, Italy, Britain etc, all well and good, but Germans....brrrrrr)
And before someone asks, yes, Bavarians and Germans do have a love-hate relationship - they love us, but we hate them ~D
I myself find English grammar to be pretty easy stuff. Granted, to write 100% correct English is a proverbial pain; still to write English at a decent level (without either blatant, sentence crashing grammar errors) is not so hard at all. You've got to think twice every now and then about getting your word order right; but over all the English language is a typical dicitonary-language: its real difficulties only emerge in situations when you want to use very specific words, describing a particular thing/action/event and which require you to know your trade.
As long as you don't ever attempt at speaking slang... you're good. ~;) Oh, and the retarded pronounciation, of course. (Compare spelling of the actual word, before it got all squeezed/stretched & deformed by the speaker.)
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As for "Most difficult languages to learn": I am surprised nobody mentioned Dutch so far. As opposed to many other modern languages, Dutch uses a wide variety of vowels which aren't even uniformly spelled: more often than not surrounding consonants and the position within the whole word play their parts as well. Add to this the very loose grammar, and its tendency to be very strict when you wouldn't expect it...
Chinese is tough for westerners, I'll grant you that. ;-) I always thought Latin was the hardest, but that's only because I don't know the grammar for Greek.
Anyway. Here in the presence of so many drinkers and EB fans, I'd like to flog my own little humble work, begun in May 2004 before I met EB, but which was already a labour of love inspired by the phenomenon that was RTW. It's not exactly an AAR, being written as a fantasy novel. But its soldiers are definitely armed and behave in a way that all EB players will definitely find familiar :D It's here at http://voruna.blogspot.com, and the first post you see is the latest, so do look back in the archives to the very first one.
Here's hoping you enjoy it. I stopped writing for quite some time when I enlisted, leaving the novel fallow, but am now continuing it again. You guys and gals are going to be the first public audience I'm revealing its existence to, so I hope you merry drinkers will give me your opinion on it.
And try not to puke on it.
Not too much, anyway. XD
Saxons arent german (anymore, they were but this is like 50years ago?), they are just a bunch of annoying people living in the middle of nowhere (no joke, as I visited the Games Convention 2003, I had to drive through the old areas where the big agriculture industries were, and there is for 100km NOTHING!).Quote:
Originally Posted by Bavarian Barbarian
And I dont know why everyone thinks of bavaria if they think of germany; Currywurst (which WAS NOT developed in Berlin!) is so much better than Weißwurst.
Alas, my image of bavaria may be a bit..."twisted", but this may result due too much time in front of a TV (especially the series named "Heidi" crushed my image of bavaria forever).
Err, as far as i know heidi and almöhi are living in this lovely country -> :switzerland:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kampfkrebs
I think your confusing illiteracy with dialect and slang.Quote:
i.e. those who like to finish every sentence with 'yer know' or 'like' and wouldn't know the difference between there, their and they're if it were painted blue and danced on that beer filled table over there singing 'confusing grammar is here again'
Please forgive me my dumbness, but for me as a Ruhri, everything south of Essen is the same :laugh4:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bavarian Barbarian
Moggûh to you all
Lets play a little guess game
Me Myself and I thinks that EB 1 will be released a week before Christmas as a sort of early christmas present
What I do noticed is that the forum is more quit than normal the game testers likely find a Indian elephant bug :elephant: :eeeek: in the script and they are chasing it as a bunch of skirmishers :sagittarius: to kill it
Or the worst scenario its totally bug free and so satisfying to play that they totally forgot to release it
What do you think??
Ow bartender can have A jug of Hertog Jan please
I know the release date, but I wont tell you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sassem
Till the release you have to be happy with this:
http://www.ugly.plzdiekthxbye.net/ar...d_bad_ugly.gif
I have to make a confession, and since I'm not religious and this place represents a bar, it's a fitting place for this: I suck as a beta tester. Bovi, being the liberal he is, doesn't believe in whipping (you bastard) and won't force me to do anything, so I've let my personal life get in the way. Anyway, since the team won't kick and whip me into doing what I'm supposed to do, I figure maybe some of you drunkards will. Whaddya say? I can't offer a prize for the hardest kicker, but maybe it'll make the next release be that much sooner. If I (or you) can force me into it, I'll actually do something useful on Sunday.
But I thought Bovi was the EB whippersnapper....that's false advertising. Maybe he should change it to EB super happy fun time provider, to avoid any further confusion. :P
What you didn't saw the sign outside this PubQuote:
Originally Posted by Thaatu
EB BETA TESTERS MAY ONLY VISIT AFTER 48hours (continuous) TESTING
:sweatdrop: :whip: EB staff
uhhuh, yeah. I wonder when that sign was put up though, it sure as hell wasn't the bartender.
*looks around* bartender? Helloooo....
I'm still here, Sassem just hung up the sign so Thaatu would get his ass to work! :P
Thaatu is lying. He whips me every evening.:whip:
Woooooaaaahhh....TMI friend, TMI.
:dizzy2:
Tsk. But at least all that blood and scourging is for a good cause, eh? Endure for, oh, another 4-5 years? 0.9 ought to be out by then... o.o
visitin agsin.
hello.
how are u.