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Originally Posted by YLC
You guys are priceless :laugh4:
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Originally Posted by YLC
You guys are priceless :laugh4:
Er....
Just as a reminder- this is the day phase. Y'all can vote.
If I consider myself to have voting ability, can I vote?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaseikhaan
You are quite correct. Had I not trusted you with my role information, I would still be alive right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
And I'm not trying to confuse anyone. Rather, I know people are not going to listen to me no matter what I say, because they all think I am mafia. Instead, I am making predictions for posterity that I will come back and quote once the game is over. If you actually take heed of the warnings instead of just ignoring me, you might be better off.
No, that was fine. It was trusting that info to 2 other people who were about to be lynched, plus putting in a huge effort to save Sasaki that made you scummy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix
True, time to stop being distracted by dead mafioso.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yaseikhaan
Vote: Winston Hughes
Refrained from voting for Sasaki with a scumtastic neutral excuse. Refrained from voting for Chaotix with the exact same scumtastic neutral excuse. Also, specifically named by Chaotix as one of his 'townie sacrifices', which would fit with Chaotix laying the groundwork for one of his scum buddies. Also, I recall several other people saying he was acting scummy earlier in the game.
:coffeenews:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Alright, you want me to help the town, TinCow, so that's what I'm doing here.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
I cannot tell you that Winston is a confirmed townie. However, lynching him would be an irrational move. I made Winston reveal to me in round one in order to save his life, and he claimed townie (as he did in the thread as well, so no rule-breaking there I hope- please stop me if I'm crossing the line khaan :bow:).
Now, if he was mafia, he would have claimed pro-town and tried to get me to revive him. As a townie, I was prepared to let him die, but when I saw the opportunity to save him I seized it, because it meant I could use him later as a sacrifice to bring back a pro-town.
He is probably a basic townie. At the time he revealed to me, it was unlikely he was going to survive at all, so as a mafia he would have leaped at the chance. He also didn't believe my own claim until after the round was over.
On the other hand, I will admit it is entirely possible he is mafia and just slipped by me. I'd say he has about as much chance of being mafia as anyone else who is currently alive.
Either way, I would suggest the town not follow TinCow blindly, as he appears to be prone to making bad decisions. We appear to have the upper hand now, but we should keep it that way by making well-thought-out choices and not senselessly bandwagoning. We have lost almost as many pro-town roles as we have killed mafia.
Vote: Winston Hughes
I really like that name.
I refrained from voting for Sasaki and Chaotix because it was blatantly obvious that they were going to get lynched anyway, and piling more votes on does nothing for the innocent cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
But I'm not going to bother defending myself any further - I've wasted enough effort doing that already, and it doesn't seem to help.
Sorry, I didn't realize that voting based on another person's voting pattern and statements was irrational. I though that was considered the basis of good mafia-hunting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chaotix
Let me get this straight, you're saying that claiming to be a townie on Day 1 is good evidence that you're innocent?Quote:
I made Winston reveal to me in round one in order to save his life, and he claimed townie ... Now, if he was mafia, he would have claimed pro-town and tried to get me to revive him. As a townie, I was prepared to let him die, but when I saw the opportunity to save him I seized it, because it meant I could use him later as a sacrifice to bring back a pro-town.
Then why did you even write all of this? If he has as much of a chance of being mafia as anyone else, why go through all this effort to defend him? That's a lot of text for someone who "has about as much chance of being mafia as anyone else." :inquisitive:Quote:
On the other hand, I will admit it is entirely possible he is mafia and just slipped by me. I'd say he has about as much chance of being mafia as anyone else who is currently alive.
You're right about one thing, TC: whether I was mafia, plain-town, or power-town, I would've said the same thing to Chaotix when he contacted me. My actions could only be an argument in my favour if I was actually stupid enough to fall into such a trap in the first place.
By the way, since you've decided to lynch me anyway - and I'm not going to resist - what say you spend the rest of the day calling out some lurkers? At least get everyone to say a few words as they condemn me to the noose.
ps. There's a cookie in it for the first person to correctly guess what defence I would make for myself if I could be bothered with the effort. ~:)
Since you're not helping the town in any way, I can only assume you were indeed a mafioso.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Anyway, Winston, since you won't bother defending yourself, care to attack somebody?
You were pretty keen on lynching johnhughtom; do you still feel the same? Why should we lynch him? Do you have other suspects?
So you are convinced that Winston is guilty?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
No, I'm not. In fact, I did a quick re-read on johnhughtom and, to my surprise, there wasn't much to read. Each of his posts are as good as without content. Maybe Winston is on to something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I am however convinced that you're not really helping. You're not the type to hold grudges against the town because they lynched you wrongfully, so I assume you were indeed mafia.
I'm also very curious to see if ACIN will post in this round to avoid the Wrath of 'khaan or not.
That's not strictly correct. I voted to lynch him, but never made any real effort to convince anyone else to do likewise. If I was more certain of his guilt, I would have made a proper case, but there's simply nothing to go on there. That's the beauty of staying quiet, isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
All I can say against him is that he's been keeping a low profile throughout, and has avoided engaging in anything that looks like discussion. Now, on the one hand, that seems to be the only smart way to play in this game (since saying anything substantive makes you a vote magnet), so I can't blame him for that.
On the other hand, though, I feel it's remiss of us to let people get away with it, and john just struck me as the most suspicious of the quiet ones. There's something about the punctuality of his votes that suggests he's paying more attention than you'd think from his posts.
Nope. And since I've got nothing to offer the innocent cause, and no way of proving my innocence, you might as well agree to lynch me now, and then spend the rest of the day forcing quiet people to justify themselves. Whoever doesn't talk enough, you can lynch them tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
vote: winston hughes
Whoever votes for someone and has a large wall of text to support it MUST be right. :brood:
Ok it wasn't even a large block, but it looks shiny.
I'm only "not helping" if there is good reason to think winston is guilty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Vote:ACIN
Aw, Wrath of Khaan is to slow - go for a direct lynch :yes:
If he's about to be wogged it's a waste.Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
Would you vote johnhughtom if you were still alive?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
I might go for woad and fangs, because I'm inherently suspicious of people who offer to sacrifice themselves for no reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Vote : johnhughtom
I'm not convinced of the case against Winston and don't wanna punish him for defending himself. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
So I'll go with the second choice provided. Vote : johnhughtom.
:yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by YLC
I've been neutral in about 4 or 5 games now, and went town every time, except for the very first time in a Yoyoma game that purportedly, you couldn't win.
All votes have been good choices. There is the possibility YLC is a Mafia-role, but not on the same team as the Mafia. Winston has been susipicious and so has johnhughthom.
I will vote: johnhughthom for now, as YLC would most likely help us find another Mafiaso.
BANZAI
Vote: Sigurd
John is too cool to be mafia, vote for someone else. :yes:
Or don't you choose.
:laugh4:
Vote: Jooray
An odd argument, but thank you anyway.:beam:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury
Someone might want to break this tie so we can keep the game moving:
Winston Hughes: 3 (TinCow, johnhughthom, Thermal Mercury)
johnhughtom: 3 (Andres, Joooray, Beskar)
Sigurd: 1 (pevergreen)
Joooray: 1 (Psychonaut)
YLC: 1 (woad&fangs)
ACIN: 1 (YLC)
A1_Unit: 1 (A1_Unit)
Not Voting: 7 (ACIN, Centurion1, Double A, Kralizec, scottishranger, Sigurd, Winston Hughes) :whip:
Unvote:, Vote: Winston Hughes
To make it a landslide - vote: Winston Hughes.
The theory is that Chaotix is Hades right? and he doesn't want us to lynch Winston Hughes.
Well... I know that you can't trust Hades. :sweatdrop:
So I'm doomed, eh?
The last time I got lynched was in my very first mafia-type game, Renata's NotW: The War Party at CFC. That time it didn't kill me, though, so this will be my first ever real lynching. I'm actually quite excited at the prospect.
If you are, then vote: WH
No, I won't vote against myself. I only vote for people I know to be innocent when I'm a villain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
No that was my vote. You can do whatever you want with yours.
unvote, vote:A1_Unit Listen everybody: either lynch me or send me a visit from the SKs - I demand it!
Whoops, my bad. Forgot I gave this phase 36 hours instead of 48. :embarassed:
Since it was host error, I'll count the most recent votes. Day is over.
The mood at the gathering had improved a bit since the last. Many claimed victory in sight, though a few cautioned against any unknown power. Governor-General Yasei was merely interested in results. And results had told him a bloodbath occurred during the previous watch. So once more, he dictated to the encamped to deliver to him another assassin. When the tally was gathered by his scribe, one by the name of Winston Hughes was held most guilty. When Yasei pointed at him, demanding he stand before him, Winston shrugged, then said "Sure, why not?"
"Great, another insolent one..." Yasei thought to himself. Winston willingly knelt before his executor. Figuring he would gladly oblige, Yasei gripped his sword in both hands, and carved Winston in half at the waist. The scribe walked up to Yasei and whispered in his ear, then pointed to the parchment. "Ah, right," he responded, nodding. He stepped down from his elevated position, walked into the crowd. Against the wall was Centurion1, who had been playing some game against himself that seemed to involve placing four coins consecutively on the floor, while his imaginary opponent was attempting to place "his" own coins in the same manner. Centurion did not even look up at the Governor-General before him. "Tsk, tsk..." Yasei shook his head. Gripping the sword once more, he swung it in an overhead fashion, splitting Centurion's skull.
He stood erect, and proclaimed, "LET THAT BE A WARNING TO THE REST OF YOU! THIS IS NOT A GAME! IF YOU AREN'T WITH US TRYING TO HELP, YOU'RE DEAD WEIGHT! NOW BACK TO YOUR WATCHES!"
Not needing to be told twice, the remaining encampment shuffled out of the main hall with haste.
Tally:
Winston Hughes: 6 (Double A, YLC, SigurdTinCow, johnhughthom, Thermal Mercury)
johnhughtom: 3 (Andres, Joooray, Beskar)
Sigurd: 1 (pevergreen)
Joooray: 1 (Psychonaut)
YLC: 1 (woad&fangs)
A1_Unit: 1 (A1_Unit)
Alive: 16
A1_Unit
A completely inoffensive name
Andres
Beskar
Double A
johnhugthom
Jooray
Kralizec
pevergreen
Psychonaut
scottishranger
Sigurd
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
woad&fangs
YLC
Slain: 17
A Very Super Market (N1)
Khazaar (N1)
White_eyes:D (N1)
Captain C (N2)
splitpersonality (N2)
slashandburn (N2)
Captain Blackadder (N3)
Peasant Phill (N3)
Yaropolk (N3)
Csargo (N3)
Beefy187 (N4)
Diamondeye (N5)
Cultured Drizzt fan (N5)
Sprig (N5)
Scienter (N6)
CCRunner (N6)
atheotes (N6)
Lynched: 6
Seon (D1)
Askthepizzaguy (D2)
GeneralHankerchief (D3)
Sasaki Kojiro (D4)
Chaotix (D5)
Winston Hughes (D6)
Wrath of Khaan: 1
Centurion1 (D6)
PLEASE SEND NIGHT ORDERS ASAP. I WANT THEM IN 25 HOURS, NO LATER.
Well done to those of you who successfully deduced that I was, in fact, the arch-villain. I don't know how you figured me out. I guess it was the fact that I didn't spend the whole time hiding in the background and trying not to be noticed. I must remember that for next time. :rolleyes:
Cent got more wok than he bargained for.
Good news, looks like Lamia is dead then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Congratulations! I'm genuinely confused as to whether you actually believe that, or whether you're just trying to out-sarcasm me. :2thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
For the sake of the remaining townies, however, I suppose I should clarify that I was not any kind of villain. I was exactly what I said I was: a powerless innocent.
Mistakes happen all the time in mafia games :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
We always lynch more innocents than guilty ones. Of course, it's always possible you were indeed mafia and you're now playing the upset innocent townie role.
Only time will tell.
Of course. The question in this game is just how many mistakes have been made already, and how many will be made in the remainder of the game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
The town's reasons for targeting me were not encouraging. I was lynched for behaving in a way likely to aid the town: speaking up, rather than just hiding in the corner; calling people out for trying to hide, rather than jumping on easy bandwagons; answering everyone who spoke to me, rather than simply ignoring them.
If I'd wanted to, I could have made it very unlikely you would've lynched me here - it's not for no reason that I've gone 9 months of playing games like this without getting myself hanged. But playing safe like that would just add to the easy cover the villains have here amongst the quiet ones, and do absolutely nothing to aid the innocent cause.
Most importantly, though, you guys put me to the test on two previous occasions, and still didn't lynch me. Doing so a third time, whilst plenty of people have managed to avoid being challenged at all, is not a sensible way to go about catching the mafia imo.
You are either mischaracterizing or misunderstanding the case against you. It had nothing to do with you speaking up. It was mainly due to the reasons you gave for your votes during the lynchings of Sasaki and Chaotix. In both of those votes, you made statements indicating that you approved of the lynch choice, but then voted for a different person. That is an easy way for a mafioso to appear like they are joining in the vote against one of their allies, while still working towards getting someone else lynched. If you had straight up disagreed with the votes on them, or if you had said the same thing but voted for them as well, I likely would not have voted for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
It's never this easy, people. Hopefully you guys will get your act together by the endgame, but I somehow doubt it.
If he would have really wanted to have someone else lynched instead of Sasaki or Chaotix, then he would have done more effort, imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
In the post you quoted he mentioned (rightly so) that Sasaki and Chaotix were as good as lynched. He then put his vote on johnhughtom, who wasn't exactly the second top suspect. If he would have tried to get someone else lynched, he'd have chosen Diamondeye to build a case against.
Sometimes the town gets a lucky break. Like in the godfather part I, where they lynched sigurd right off the bat realized he was mafia because the kills dropped, and then connected other people to that lynch.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief
That's a good defense. A shame it was not brought up until 24 hours after he was lynched.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
Mighty suspicious of Andres. Perhaps he's in on this GH-Sasaki-Chaotix-Winston connection. He didn't want to defend his partner while he was in danger for fear of being tied to him, but he was upset by it and can't resist pointing out the flaws in the case now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
Meh, I was paying too much attention to a dead Sasaki and got distracted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
pevergreen needs more attention next round.
Lies and more lies... GeneralHankerchief was the Godfather and he lead the bandwagon to shut me up. I knew your beloved CoP had a darker secret and had to hold my peace as a dead man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Winston was the correct lynch this round... :smash:
Alright, no more orders will be taken. Writeup started.
It was quiet, for once. It was dark all around. There was no sound. No light. No distractions. Just thoughts. Just contemplation. Just peace. The pure essence of nothing.
Then, a bright light shone upon the person. They rubbed their eyes. A brilliant, red light shone from above. A winged being descended from the pillar of light, slowly. It opened its arms to the one below.
"Greetings, my beloved one."
They sat unmoving, staring at the wondrous being descending.
"I have chosen you, amongst many. I will lift you up on my shoulders, and together, we shall throw off the shackles of the oppressors! You and I shall bind the planes of existence. The worlds are in chaos, at war. Come with me, and end this. All the realms shall kneel to one ruler. Why should they all have their own rulers, their own systems, their own customs?"
The winged being stood before them, and the light dimmed. Brilliant red eyes lit up its dark face like lighthouses lighting up the dark and chaotic sea.
"The worlds have grown too far apart. Look at what has happened here. Gods war against demons. Man has already been drawn into the conflict, and it shall soon explode in a hellfire. This is naught but the beginning. When both have found that agents on all sides have been vanquished, they shall grow desperate. They shall attempt to strike a quick blow, and end each other."
They nodded in awed agreement. This being made... sense. More than the gods, or the demons have in their fruitless quests.
"They are sowing the seeds of their own destruction. When they are finished, all the planes of existence shall be ablaze. Join me. Be my vehicle. Let us, together, end this insanity. Let us unite the planes beneath us. Let us join them together. Gods, demons, men. All will know my name. All will kneel before me. And when I am done, I shall be generous to those that favored me. You shall be my chosen one, my beloved. You will be my top of command, given greater reward than all others. Come, let us end the chaos. Let us bind the worlds. And when we are done, there shall be peace...."
They nodded. They stepped forward, and the winged being put its arm on its shoulder. The brilliant red light shone once more. And together, they ascended...
Alive: 16
A1_Unit
A completely inoffensive name
Andres
Beskar
Double A
johnhugthom
Jooray
Kralizec
pevergreen
Psychonaut
scottishranger
Sigurd
Thermal Mercury
TinCow
woad&fangs
YLC
Slain: 17
A Very Super Market (N1)
Khazaar (N1)
White_eyes:D (N1)
Captain C (N2)
splitpersonality (N2)
slashandburn (N2)
Captain Blackadder (N3)
Peasant Phill (N3)
Yaropolk (N3)
Csargo (N3)
Beefy187 (N4)
Diamondeye (N5)
Cultured Drizzt fan (N5)
Sprig (N5)
Scienter (N6)
CCRunner (N6)
atheotes (N6)
Lynched: 6
Seon (D1)
Askthepizzaguy (D2)
GeneralHankerchief (D3)
Sasaki Kojiro (D4)
Chaotix (D5)
Winston Hughes (D6)
Wrath of Khaan: 1
Centurion1 (D6)
I'M GIVING THIS DAY PHASE 48 HOURS!
My interpretation of that write-up is that someone just got recruited into an independent faction.
Sounds like someone got resurrected.Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
If that's the case, Khaan hasn't updated the alive/dead list. Still the same 16 alive players.
:yes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
I did bring it up:Quote:
Originally Posted by TinCow
The only thing I didn't mention was the fact that johnhughthom was not a likely alternative lynchee, but that should have been obvious to you, being the person who concieved and executed the two unstoppable lynches I got fingered for stepping out of line on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
Hi pever, how have you been doing lately?Quote:
Originally Posted by pevergreen
No deaths, surely good, aye winston? :egypt:
You know, I hadn't even noticed that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thermal Mercury
:idea2: Perhaps all the mafia are caught now, and the game is over. Someone better tell Yaseikhaan, though. We wouldn't want him carrying on for no reason.
vote: YLC
There is a 1/16 chance you just got recruited in the write up. Add that to the fact you're already a creepy and powerful third party role and I think you are the best lynch choice.
Not great.Quote:
Originally Posted by Double A
Trying to convince a christian lady that the world won't end if she dates someone.
I'm sorry but :laugh4:
Well, you could have still been a Mafia. Since you know, the are other roles in the game, such as YLC who is neutral, and being neutral, it could mean he has to be defeated for the game to end. It is a possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Winston Hughes
What makes you think pro town power roles can be recruited?Quote:
Originally Posted by woad&fangs
Same could be said for TinCow, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
I am with Andres on this...
Maybe Beskar got recruited by woad&fangs or the other way around? I am reminded of a rhyme about a fart and the first one who notices...
The stink is close to you two :laugh4:
vote: woad&fangs who brought it up first.
Vote : Beskar
Let's see how they react.
pevergreen hasn't contributed much more than a few one liners here and there, a bit similar to johnhughtom.
Are you guys going to talk and post something substantial or do you feel comfortable in your silence as long as it doesn't look like you're going to be lynched?
I don't get your argument.
Yeah, i'm good with how i'm going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres
So a neutral with wings and red light who has recruited someone. I'm fairly certain it can't be TinCow. It could be YLC, but he acts completely differently. And I doubt he'd have recruitment ability as well. My gut says:
Vote: Andres
It's just odd that you look at YLC as a possible neutral power role with his own victory conditions, but you don't mention TinCow as a possible neutral role with his own victory conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beskar
I'm thinking Sigurd should be lynched.
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro
Vote: Beskar
:juggle2:
Someone was recruited, and Sigurd's comments about woad being the first to mention it are suspicious, because TinCow mentioned it first and it sounds like the comment of someone who, as mafia, wouldn't bring it up first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andres