Capo di Tutti Capi IV [Concluded]

There is just no way I can keep up with this thread. I give up on reading it.

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Originally Posted by Zack

There is just no way I can keep up with this thread. I give up on reading it.

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Just skip the text walls. They aren't very important. :)

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Um, OK. Lets assume that I am the one is lying - what facts about the rest of my argument must be changed to reflect this?

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None, as it happens. You acknowledge that there were PM conversations between us, your PMs are blatantly fraudulent, and you have not provided any evidence to refute my allegation that you are third party scum. Please point out where your word against mine about this silly time issue invalidates one or more of those three parts of my argument.

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how about the entire part where you claim that you are the one who revealed to ACIN who then revealed in thread? which is another lie then, 2 in a row, which then leads to a 3rd because you are then obviously trying to cover for ACIN who tried to cover himself with another fake reveal.

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It was in the main thread >_>

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but it wasnt aimed at me... it was in general. how do you convince someone that doesnt know you are talking to him?

anyway, ive already informed one person. im going to email several more to insure that i get a fair trial. add me on msn if u want to be a candidate.

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

how about the entire part where you claim that you are the one who revealed to ACIN who then revealed in thread? which is another lie then, 2 in a row, which then leads to a 3rd because you are then obviously trying to cover for ACIN who tried to cover himself with another fake reveal.

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Ok, so why did they lie about it? I tend to believe you that they are lying, because you sound like mafia picking out the one false detail from an accusation and making a big fuss about it.

Nothing.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

Ok, so why did they lie about it? I tend to believe you that they are lying, because you sound like mafia picking out the one false detail from an accusation and making a big fuss about it.

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well its not a detail... if subo is lying about the dates which he is and if im right then i didnt contact him untill yesterday.

which means that ACIN made a reveal about a role on the 14t. Later on the 16th in a 2nd reveal ACIN says he has lied about the first reveal but he is now coming forward with the real one.

but according to subos story it was subo who told ACIN of my role and then ACIN made up the reveal. however if me and subo hadnt talked to ACIN prior to his reveal then obviously ACINs reveal is fake or regarding someone else. either way they are lying about me.

I've read everything and I'm still confused... Can someone make a summery or something?

Nevermind. I post slow.

I was thinking someone could explain all this drama with Subotan and The Stranger.

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

but it wasnt aimed at me... it was in general. how do you convince someone that doesnt know you are talking to him?

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ACIN considered you bright enough to recognise he would be talking about you if he had revealed someone with the exact information that you had leaked to me.

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anyway, ive already informed one person. im going to email several more to insure that i get a fair trial. add me on msn if u want to be a candidate.

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Fair trials are conducted in public, FYI.

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

well its not a detail... if subo is lying about the dates which he is and if im right then i didnt contact him untill yesterday.

which means that ACIN made a reveal about a role on the 14t. Later on the 16th in a 2nd reveal ACIN says he has lied about the first reveal but he is now coming forward with the real one.


but according to subos story it was subo who told ACIN of my role and then ACIN made up the reveal. however if me and subo hadnt talked to ACIN prior to his reveal then obviously ACINs reveal is fake or regarding someone else. either way they are lying about me.
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Let's rephrase that end sentence to reflect reality:

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but according to subos story it was subo who told ACIN of my role and then ACIN made up the reveal. however if me and subo hadnt talked to ACIN prior to his reveal then obviously ACINs reveal is fake or regarding someone else either way this says nothing about whether The Stranger is scum or not

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Originally Posted by Cahoma

I was thinking someone could explain all this drama with Subotan and The Stranger.

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Stranger contacted me asking if I was his "hub" he was supposed to contact. I led him on for a bit, then tried to blackmail him to get more info about him and his faction out of him. Stranger says he just contacted me asking to joina vig group; this has been proven to be false by the fact that I would not try to blackmail him if he had done so as he would not have revealed any dirt.

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Originally Posted by Xenoneb

Just skip the text walls. They aren't very important. :)

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Giant obnoxious pictures, on the other hand, are extremely important, and should never be skipped.

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Originally Posted by thefluffyone93

Giant obnoxious pictures, on the other hand, are extremely important, and should never be skipped.

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For the love of monkey, could you please stop posting memes?

To true, Fluffy.

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Originally Posted by Cahoma

I was thinking someone could explain all this drama with Subotan and The Stranger.

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And... not forget ACIN!

ACIN comes day 1 and says a mafioso revealed accidentally to him via pm...
Sometime in day 2 The Stanger contact Subotan asking for doing some action at night (if you believe Subotan, The stanger slips some info compromising him as a third party mafioso)
Sometime in same day 2 Subotan say it to ACIN
Sometime in same day 2 ACIN uses his time machine and goes back on time to day 1 and invent the thing about the pm...

Now they are discussing how that was possible and if it was possible... bleh!

So, ACIN made up the story about the mafioso contacting him (my initial impression) just for fun.

Later, The stranger contacts Subotan asking about the hub.

Subotan tells ACIN about it.

ACIN comes under heavy pressure, and decides to act like his story was real all along by saying it was the stranger. Subotan goes along because they are buds.

Thus our current scenario where the stranger is clearly scum of some kind but knows that subotan is lying about part of the story and trying to exploit that.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

So, ACIN made up the story about the mafioso contacting him (my initial impression) just for fun.

Later, The stranger contacts Subotan asking about the hub.

Subotan tells ACIN about it.

ACIN comes under heavy pressure, and decides to act like his story was real all along by saying it was the stranger. Subotan goes along because they are buds.

Thus our current scenario where the stranger is clearly scum of some kind but knows that subotan is lying about part of the story and trying to exploit that.

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so wait. let me get this right: ACIN can make stuff up for fun and later use it in some scummy attempt to save himself from getting lynched

but TS cant pm someone for fun and when he later gets sandwiched by some scum, ofcourse only for fun, he is scum even tho the ppl that accuse him are clearly lying and hiding stuff?

really sound reasoning.

Ok anyway here is the truth. I can prove the dates of our conversation and that it was on the 15th and not the 12th like Subo says, and also that the importance of this is much more significant than Sasaki makes it look like. However i have to wait for seamus his confirmation to prove the dates. its not important however for the rest of the story so here it goes.

this is the true version of our pms including the bit subo left out which i bolded.

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Originally Posted by Subotan

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

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Originally Posted by Subotan

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

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Originally Posted by Subotan

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

Are you the hub I'm supposed to link up with?

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Yeaup, and you're not the first to link up with me. Did you pick up on the SSV code in some of my posts?

I've already had some ideas about longer term strategy, but I'm not sure what to do tonight. Thoughts?

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I'm rather clueless and I thought that you would provide me with orders and also brief me about our current situation.

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Oh of course, I just wanted to see how much you already knew. What do you want to know about?

I'm thinking of us joining in a protection group for the next few nights, so we can get some alibis for later in the game.

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Is there a way that we could speak more directly? Through skype or msn?

I knew only to look out for certain keywords, but for example I don't know our numbers or other names. You are the first I've contacted. I don't want to know more than I need to actually.

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Alright, that's enough information to get you lynched.

Start talking. What is your role? What does CDTC mean? What is this "hub"? What are these code words? What are these numbers/other names?

I'm not going to spill the beans on you - there is absolutely no incentive for me to do so. I am however going to blackmail you. If you don't answer my questions and keep me informed as to the developments of your faction, then I will of course reveal you to be a scum of whatever kind.

Oh, and one last thing - if you try to kill me, I guarantee that you will be lynched the following day. This is not an idle threat or a bluff, and you will treat as such at your peril.

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Explanation of my actions

I've PM'd Subotan randomly, that is to say, I knew what I was going to PM but I PM'd it randomly to Subotan. I don't know why I picked him, it was an impulsive act. I PM'd what I PM'd because I was bored and didn't have any contacts. I've done this many times during most mafia games I played, I do stuff like this when the game is moving to slow for me.

My PM was intended as a prope to see if I'd get any type of response, and yes, I did. Subotan responded to me about some code. Eager but also naively and at the same time, oddly weary, I replied back to Subotan's code. I didn't directly refer to it as so that the code might not be pinned on me, in case he might want to do what he's doing now.

I didn't post anything about this until now that I realized that SSV might be a symbol for the USA and have something to do with the Commies groups. The SSV being a symbol for the States, I searched the thread and found 2 more instances of him referring to this code.

When he threatened me I didn't think he was going to do anything serious so I insisted on talking to him on skype to see how he would react. But it turned out to be a boring conversation and pretty fruitless.

I think I do have hit on scum here now that ACIN has been trying to use my stupid probe born out of boredom to cover for his even more stupid but in retrospect lucky reveal about some mafia role. The way they jumped on this to save ACIN from getting lynched is just too scummy. And also he didn't want to say anything about the code in public.

I lied about the PM's because I did make a stupid move but since Subotan tampered with them I thought i could just do the same. I shouldn't have done that, and for that I'm sincerely sorry.

So then we come to the part where we count the lies.

TS: 1 lie (about the PM's)
ACIN: 2 lies (he made 2 fake reveals)
Subotan: 2 lies (he lied about the date of our PM's and he lied about the content of our PM's)

[ While emotions may be running high, you still need to mind your language, TS - Sec ]

That's according to you. This is what we know for sure
TS: 1 lie (about the PM's)
ACIN: 1 lies (he made a fake reveals)
Subotan: 0 lies

no subotan lied took stuff out of the pm. and hes obviously lying about the date. my alibi of aoe3 should cover that but since he claims i can alt tab, which i cant but cant prove either im waiting for seamus to aprove of my method. if he doesnt i forfeit this game anyway because he leaves me no way to prove my innocence.

Trolls trolling trolls. What better summation of this board today...

I'm saying the lies that are provable... AKA the person admitted it. And also it is possible that you sent it during the same game. Not likely, but possible.

he admitted only cuz i pointed it out. and since i admitted too does that now put my lie on 0? no thats not how it works... and since acin is still lying about the dates that means that he still has 2 lies.

anyway now im really off to bed. gn

Good night.
Edit: Your sig is probably right.:yes:

This is getting stupid now... next day can we lynch ACIN, Subotan and The Stranger? All of them (I think?) has lied in public, and not for the good of the town either. ACIN is doing it for the lolz, Subotan is redacting materials for unknown reasons and The Stranger is lying in response to Subotan's 'lies'. Kill them all I say, let the autopsies sort them out.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

So, ACIN made up the story about the mafioso contacting him (my initial impression) just for fun.

Later, The stranger contacts Subotan asking about the hub.

Subotan tells ACIN about it.

ACIN comes under heavy pressure, and decides to act like his story was real all along by saying it was the stranger. Subotan goes along because they are buds.

Thus our current scenario where the stranger is clearly scum of some kind but knows that subotan is lying about part of the story and trying to exploit that.

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Congratulations Sasaki, you've worked it out. That's why I was raging about ACIN making my life complicated, as I wanted to avoid saying "Nope, ACIN is lying", because that makes it seem like he's automatically scum (He may yet be, but that's for us to find out later on, rather than deciding here and now on Day 3). The Stranger's account of the date is correct; everything else I've said has been the truth.

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Originally Posted by The Stranger

I've PM'd Subotan randomly, that is to say, I knew what I was going to PM but I PM'd it randomly to Subotan. I don't know why I picked him, it was an impulsive act. I PM'd what I PM'd because I was bored and didn't have any contacts. I've done this many times during most mafia games I played, I do stuff like this when the game is moving to slow for me.

My PM was intended as a prope to see if I'd get any type of response, and yes, I did. Subotan responded to me about some code. Eager but also naively and at the same time, oddly weary, I replied back to Subotan's code. I didn't directly refer to it as so that the code might not be pinned on me, in case he might want to do what he's doing now.

I didn't post anything about this until now that I realized that SSV might be a symbol for the USA and have something to do with the Commies groups. The SSV being a symbol for the States, I searched the thread and found 2 more instances of him referring to this code.

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You should have googled "SSV". Had you done so, then you would have realised that both of my references to SSV were to vehicles of some kind - aka the SSV SR-1 Normandy. I have been dropping Mass Effect references all game, so I thought SSV would be appropriate. The code was a fake meant to lure out third party players looking for their leader; as it happens, I succeeded.

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I think I do have hit on scum here now that ACIN has been trying to use my stupid probe born out of boredom to cover for his even more stupid but in retrospect lucky reveal about some mafia role. The way they jumped on this to save ACIN from getting lynched is just too scummy. And also he didn't want to say anything about the code in public.

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ACIN's initial reveal was a lie. He revealed this to me; in exchange, I told him about what you had PMed me.

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Originally Posted by shlin28

This is getting stupid now... next day can we lynch ACIN, Subotan and The Stranger? All of them (I think?) has lied in public, and not for the good of the town either. ACIN is doing it for the lolz, Subotan is redacting materials for unknown reasons and The Stranger is lying in response to Subotan's 'lies'. Kill them all I say, let the autopsies sort them out.

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I agree.

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Subotan is redacting materials for unknown reasons

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I redacted the SSV code as I wanted to see if I could trap more third parties with it once all this was over, and I removed the last sentence of my last PM because it's was unnecessary to the case and in retrospect, a bit silly.

So basically, it was like this?

1. ACIN lied for the lolz.
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3. ACIN told Subotan about the lie for the lolz, Subotan kept the secret for the lolz.
4. Stranger sent scummy PM to Subotan, either it was a fishing attempt as he claimed, or he is genuinely scum.
5. Subotan told ACIN about the PM
6. ACIN lies further for the lolz (He was in no real threat of being lynched...)
7. Chaos ensues

Hence:
ACIN - 100% unproductive to the town, possible scum
Subtoan - Sort of unproductive to the town, possible scum
The Stranger - Sort of unproductive to the town, higher chance of being scum

I don't see how any of you can emerge from this untarnished :book:

The order was actually:

1. ACIN lied for the lolz.
2. Time passes
   
3. Stranger sent scummy PM to Subotan, either it was a fishing attempt as he claimed, or he is genuinely scum.
4. ACIN told Subotan about the lie for the lolz, Subotan kept the secret for the lolz [sic].
5. Subotan told ACIN about the PM
6. ACIN lies further for the lolz (He was in no real threat of being lynched...)
7. Chaos ensues

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Originally Posted by shlin28

ACIN - 100% unproductive to the town, possible scum
The Stranger - Sort of unproductive to the town, higher chance of being scum
Subotan - Sort of unproductive to the town, possible scum

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EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE GAME - Sort of unproductive to the town, possible scum

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Originally Posted by Subotan

The order was actually:

1. ACIN lied for the lolz.
2. Time passes
   
3. Stranger sent scummy PM to Subotan, either it was a fishing attempt as he claimed, or he is genuinely scum.
4. ACIN told Subotan about the lie for the lolz, Subotan kept the secret for the lolz [sic].
5. Subotan told ACIN about the PM
6. ACIN lies further for the lolz (He was in no real threat of being lynched...)
7. Chaos ensues

EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE GAME - Sort of unproductive to the town, possible scum

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Referring to yourself in the third person? Very questionable... :cheesy:

Well, this was an entertaining day. You guys just going to burnout on the first few days? :P

They'll be dead be then. No offense.

[ The troll face alone doesn't give a post substance - Sec ]

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Originally Posted by shlin28

So basically, it was like this?

1. ACIN lied for the lolz.
2. Time passes
   
3. ACIN told Subotan about the lie for the lolz, Subotan kept the secret for the lolz.
4. Stranger sent scummy PM to Subotan, either it was a fishing attempt as he claimed, or he is genuinely scum.
5. Subotan told ACIN about the PM
6. ACIN lies further for the lolz (He was in no real threat of being lynched...)
7. Chaos ensues

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8. We elect ACIN director tomorrow, for the lolz.

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Originally Posted by Subotan

unnecessary [...] and in retrospect, a bit silly.

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Sums up the whole argument for me. Seriously, let's have a closer look at this in the morning. Good night!

You guys know that SSV is a reference to a game called Mass Effect, right?

It has nothing to do with this game or any sort of secret third party; it's just Subotan screwing around and making Commander Shepard quotes.

That said, if Subotan has to screw around and make quotes, they had better be from Commander Shepard. He's going to save the galaxy whether we like it or not.

Btw, in case all you nay sayers want to lynch me for trolling around, in case you haven't noticed this trolling around has exposed 1 scum person already (stranger).

what you guys really want to do now, is look at the people who reacted to my trolling by changing votes or opinions because the people who really knew I was full of **** were the mafia people themselves.

I have a feeling more than one mafioso made a mistake by trying to abuse my foolish nature for his own good.

I'm off to celebrate by going to a sports game, see you all tomorrow! Trolololololololololololol

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Originally Posted by Subotan

The order was actually:

1. ACIN lied for the lolz.
2. Time passes
   
3. Stranger sent scummy PM to Subotan, either it was a fishing attempt as he claimed, or he is genuinely scum.
4. ACIN told Subotan about the lie for the lolz, Subotan kept the secret for the lolz [sic].
5. Subotan told ACIN about the PM
6. ACIN lies further for the lolz (He was in no real threat of being lynched...)
7. Chaos ensues

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8. ???
9. Profit!
It's all part of some sort of commie plot! Pinkos!

[ Nor do memes - Sec ]

After following Subo's excellent Googling suggestion, I found that among the many things SSV is...

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In 1917 Revolutionary fervour engulfed Sweden. Riots took place in many cities. In Västervik a workers council took control of day-to-day affairs. In Stockholm soldiers marched together with workers on May Day. In the upper-class neighbourhood of Stockholm, Östermalm, residents formed paramilitary structures to defend themselves from a possible armed revolution.

The Social Democratic Left Party of Sweden (SSV) was founded following a split in the Social Democratic Party. The new party was mainly founded by the youth league under the leadership of Zeth Höglund. SSV was a broad-based socialist party, encompassing many leftist tendencies.

In 1919 SSV became a founding member of the Communist International. A small section of the party left in protest.In 1921 in accordance with the 21 theses of the Comintern, the party name was changed to Sveriges Kommunistiska Parti (Communist Party of Sweden). Liberal and non-revolutionary elements were purged. They regrouped under the name SSV. In total 6,000 out of 17,000 party members were expelled.

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Fishing for third-party members indeed.

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Originally Posted by El Barto

In spite of everything else that was posted?

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i was catching up at the time. had 3 to 4 pages to go with 5 minutes to vote. didn't even reach the whole stranger bit.

Can we have Subotan and The Stranger killed tonight? That will solve so many problems we are having right now.

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Originally Posted by Chaotix

You guys know that SSV is a reference to a game called Mass Effect, right?

It has nothing to do with this game or any sort of secret third party; it's just Subotan screwing around and making Commander Shepard quotes.

That said, if Subotan has to screw around and make quotes, they had better be from Commander Shepard. He's going to save the galaxy whether we like it or not.

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Sorry, I'm having trouble hearing you. Getting a lot of scum on this line.

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Originally Posted by Montmorency

After following Subo's excellent Googling suggestion, I found that among the many things SSV is...



Fishing for third-party members indeed.

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Haha, what? Are you honestly arguing that despite the Mass Effect references I've dropped since before we got our PMs, that my use of SSV proves I am a Swedish member of a Euroscommunist political party that existed from 1921-1923? On the Eastern Sideboard of the United States? Huh?

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Originally Posted by hero di classico

Can we have Subotan and The Stranger killed tonight? That will solve so many problems we are having right now.

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That could work.
Unless they claim to be someone important

Vote: Abstain

^ Impossible.

Perhaps an FBI detective out there would like to scan one of this trio? Particularly Subo, as the innocence of the other two practically hinges on his status.

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Originally Posted by Camikaze

Vote: Abstain

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Who is Abstain? Can't see him on the list.

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Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh

It would be easier to keep track of if you send two PMs, one for active and one for passive. Also, please label all such as "n2"

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What would a passive order be?

ACIN was panicking, he thought he was about 4 or 5 votes from being lynch (the reality he was about 10 or 11) and revealed Stranger to save his ass.

There is some sort of woven fabric of lies between them that is entirely impenetrable with some sort of subpena for hard drives.

If they survive the night, they need to lynched. We can sort the truth from the bodies.

There's most likely 1 scum (possibly 3!) among them, and I like those odds.

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Originally Posted by hero di classico

Can we have Subotan and The Stranger killed tonight? That will solve so many problems we are having right now.

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And ACIN, kill him too.

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Originally Posted by Erebus

There's most likely 1 scum (possibly 3!) among them, and I like those odds.

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There are 6 scum among the three of us!?!?!?!

What's your point, ACIN; that making jokes about math is fun? Could we please get more done and spam less? As far as I can tell, we've been fluctuating wildly between targets lately, with little to no real consensus on any of them.

The inherent scumminess of the entire exchange has caused you all to level up to scum level 2, your new trait is
Scummy: This trait insures that you will either be killed, lynched or repeatedly investigated in 3 days most likely more than one. Good Luck.

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Originally Posted by landlubber

What's your point, ACIN; that making jokes about math is fun? Could we please get more done and spam less? As far as I can tell, we've been fluctuating wildly between targets lately, with little to no real consensus on any of them.

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I'm just sad that it took me way too long to figure out he was talking about factorials.

The fact of the matter is, those walls of texts are them arguing with each other and proving nothing to us. People did scummy things, whether for the good of the town or not, they got caught. There's nothing they can do that can save them, in my opinion. Sorry.

I need two protection groups to do work for tonight.

I will take the first 6-8 volunteers. PM me only.

What for?

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Originally Posted by thefluffyone93

Giant obnoxious pictures, on the other hand, are extremely important, and should never be skipped.

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Originally Posted by GamezRule

For the love of monkey, could you please stop posting memes?

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For the love of Ceilingcat, you mean. You have to catmaniacs here, be respectful.

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Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro

So, ACIN made up the story about the mafioso contacting him (my initial impression) just for fun.

Later, The stranger contacts Subotan asking about the hub.

Subotan tells ACIN about it.

ACIN comes under heavy pressure, and decides to act like his story was real all along by saying it was the stranger. Subotan goes along because they are buds.

Thus our current scenario where the stranger is clearly scum of some kind but knows that subotan is lying about part of the story and trying to exploit that.

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So, um…all for the lulz? Yes, acin, it might have made a scummer come out, but at the cost of several hundred posts of nonsense that force dozens of people into lurker mode.

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Originally Posted by Craterus

Trolls trolling trolls. What better summation of this board today...

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Better summation? Trololololololololol, trololololo!!!

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Originally Posted by Camikaze

Vote: Abstain

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Eh? At least make an anti-lurker pressure vote, all you have to do is open the Who's Posted? tab. That is, if it were day…

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Originally Posted by a completely inoffensive name

There are 6 scum among the three of us!?!?!?!

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Not funny.

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Originally Posted by Xenoneb

What for?

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For protection, obviously. Seems I've reached the limits of what I can do behind this desk and others might have more luck.

Same as I said two or three hundred posts ago. Unburden something on people you can trust or you'll have a brain asplosion. Good night. Oh, and it's just past midnight here, so it's Caturday!

I need one volunteer to fill in for a vigilante group person who dropped out.

You get to attack me. Seriously. Why would you say no, honestly?

Either I make a doctor or I kill myself in hilarious fashion. It's a win-win for the spectators.

And for whoever isn't on your side, which will be proved by your autopsy. :p

Edit: what???? no :P=tongue smiley? Grrrrr.

You'd think finding folks who would get their jollies from killing me would be easy.

Your user title discourages us.

I'm in favor of whacking ACIN just for using the trollface picture. Subotan and Stranger can go along for the ride too.

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Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

You'd think finding folks who would get their jollies from killing me would be easy.

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I just imagined everyone plotting your demise in there evil secret lair right now.:evil:

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Originally Posted by White_eyes:D

I just imagined everyone plotting your demise in there evil secret lair right now.:evil:

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FOS White_Eyes.

Title used to be incorruptible, now Semi-corruptible. You just admitted to being mafia.

They had cookies.:shrug:

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Originally Posted by slash and earn

The inherent scumminess of the entire exchange has caused you all to level up to scum level 2, your new trait is
Scummy: This trait insures that you will either be killed, lynched or repeatedly investigated in 3 days most likely more than one. Good Luck.

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FOS: slash and earn

Do you still need someone to help you out Pizza?

Just saw you were searching for someone to attack rather than protect. I'd rather do the latter really.

Damn guys, it's going to take a while for me to be up to date after being away for three days. I think I'm just going to read the last ten to eight pages or something. It's always the same with these capo games.

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Originally Posted by Moros

Do you still need someone to help you out Pizza?

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Protection is fine, but we won't have the people required to protect everyone important forever. As such, we need doctors.

As such, we need vigilantes. Simple, simple.

Why there isn't more support for this is beyond me.


@All-
You're all a bunch of mafia gangsters or mafia gangsters to be! Why do you even keep up this pro-town pretense? Honestly?

That said, don't care. I offered, you declined. Bebe, you're still kewl.

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Originally Posted by Xenoneb

Just skip the text walls. They aren't very important. :)

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This is rule #1 in Mafia strategy. It works every time :beam:

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Originally Posted by shlin28

This is getting stupid now... next day can we lynch ACIN, Subotan and The Stranger?

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Yes.

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Originally Posted by El Barto

Edit: what???? no :P=tongue smiley? Grrrrr.

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Try colons; :tongue:

There will be a delay for the results and writeup.

Orders stamped before the timed deadline will be accepted and processed as soon as I get time.

Real Life is intruding. We moved homes on the 9th, and today is not a siesta day (like I had thought) but a work day -- I will be back online to get stuff done as soon as possible.

Thanks for your forbearance.

No new post in five hours?

Don't worry, there will be 500 more posts within 24 hours.

Grrr...moar activity please.

At least it's better then the text walls...

So before we continue, how about we start making preparations for tomorrow?


It's very clear that folks are having trouble with the groups. Because I got almost no volunteers today, I was forced to recycle N1 people and not all of them wished to be involved. Some made that clear at too late an hour.

As such, doctor promotion is getting delayed due to lack of vigilantes and no time to fix it.

So, if you're a member of these groups and you see that your efforts are for naught, I have a proposal for your consideration-



1) At the start of each day phase, people identify as "group organizers", and they send out invites to folks they want to work with, except to people who have chosen to opt-out.
2) People can choose not to identify as "group organizers" and keep their efforts in secret.
3) People can ask to be automatically signed up for group operations the next night, to save time and invites. And say they'd rather protect, kill, or attack a protected target.
4) Group organizers can try to lock in several groups before night time comes. That way, fewer people will bail at the last minute.


I'd like to try to cut down on the disorganization.

You see, when folks agree to do actions, if they change their minds or make multiple requests to join groups, the organizers are left with 2-6 people who were relying on that other person to show up and they must all change their orders for a new order to function, and there isn't time for that with 6 hours or 2 hours left in a night phase.

If people want to promote to ANYTHING, they must understand that signing up to multiple groups is going to get people very frustrated with them. Enough to, you know, kill them immediately if given the chance.

However, if the organizer has assumed incorrectly that they wish to be signed up again, that's the organizer's fault and the organizer should have prepared for 1 drop out due to error.

Ordinarily I would but folks didn't show as much enthusiasm for N2 actions as they did N1. As such, I didn't have room for drop-outs this time, and my groups (vigilante, anyway) will be mostly non-functional. That's a waste of like 30 people's time.

We can't afford that to keep happening. So the new system is in place. That covers my end.

But from this time forward, if proper group etiquette is not adhered to, the vigilantes in question will be prioritizing the utter annihilation of deserters. And this will be your only warning.

So if some one leaves a group, they're dead?