Representative Democracy [Concluded]

Ugh. I was offline this weekend. Doing my best to get caught up... but 30 pages already ?!

Please tell me they are all worth reading.

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Originally Posted by BSmith

Please tell me they are all worth reading.

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You will never see a finer display of democratic debate. Enjoy. :bow:

Just in case..

Vote: Winston
Vote: Visor
Vote: Al Sips

I have read absolutely nothing of the game so far, so take the above with a massive grain of salt…

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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

You will never see a finer display of democratic debate. Enjoy. :bow:

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Not sure my expectations have risen with this statement... :laugh4:

Hey BSmith. The thread is 100% spam, ignore it and just stay a while.

Maybe not really.

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Originally Posted by Choxorn

You missed my district vote for Cuth.



And I thought Pizza's textwalls were bad...

Seriously, make your point more succinctly, or quote some of the posts you're referring to, or something, because this is more or less a bland wall of text, it's hard to see the evidence if you don't quote anything Zack has actually said, and I can't really parse a lot of it to make sense of what your argument is.

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I tried repeatedly to get these idea's through Zack's head. Using direct quotes. It didn't work. If this doesn't work, that's fine, but I made the effort. Moving on.

OK, finally got done reading up on monstrbro. He's got pretty impressive tone and flow. I didn't find the reads inconsistency that I remember someone mentioning; he's good in that regard.

The only single post I had a problem with is 476, where he says it sucks when your biggest wolfread (Monty) has two of the biggest town reads (cass and dp) as his own town reads. This strikes me as possible wolf concerned about consistency -- I don't understand the concern otherwise especially when the reads are so consensus -- but it's not much.

If Monstro is wolf and has a flaw, it's in his lack of confidence on non-town reads compared to his town ones. He's very back and forth on sooh but seems to be leaning town until visor makes his iso-spam, at which point he votes her. As soon as Sooh shows up and starts to AtE he's right back to probably villagery. His other scum read, Monty, is not engaged with much and his latest statement where monty's attack on visor is wolfy but his persistence almost villagery doesn't say much. Keeps talking about possibility the wolves are all in the low posters. To his credit, post 666 criticizing Monty for jumping the gun on sooh's lynch does seem indicative of some ongoing (and hence real) suspicion.

Compare with literally all of his town reads, which are either stated outright as "this is villagery" or progress from minor discomfort to totally villagery in pretty short order (like with winston). I don't know, could be a scum with issues contriving cases.

tl;dr: I could see him as wolf.

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Originally Posted by Renata

Not to get too paranoid and OMG scum slip on someone I was already voting or whatever, but what on earth is this post replying to? I've just read all the posts leading up to it, and there seems to be nothing it could possibly be. @Jabbz

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Sorry, post #661. Not sure why I thought that my response was contiguous, but it's more likely related to the fact that it was almost midnight, and I usually am not up that late.

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Originally Posted by Zack

ok i did some research and in fact elected reps are the only votes who count today which seems kinda wonky since they haven't been elected yet but whatever and also the phase is over in like 14 hours i think

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Originally Posted by Renata

So are you saying your earlier scumread on Zack is now a townread? With zero progression? Even if "I misread you" refers to something specific instead a general read on Zack, "I'm pretty sure it's not contributing anything useful" doesn't seem like the sort of thing you say to your top scum suspect. Or about comments about yourself, for that matter.

Please explain.

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No, this is in reference to conflating him with Dp101 early in the game. This is well documented in multiple other posts.

Oook, skimmed and sorting out my thoughts. Need to dig into more ISOs to have any confidence in most of this, but approximately where I'm at

Renata
atheotes

Monstrbro
Zack
Visor
dicetosser1


Dp101
Cuthillius



Jabbz /Winston Hughes
GeneralHankerchief/Montmorency/El Barto /
Sooh* / Schema



Inactive/low posters

Have no idea what to do with these given the superlowpost theme for some players at this site. I find most of it inherently scummy but it could be their normal styles/don't know how much bias I'm reading in for super low posts/late starts. Would really appreciate those who know them looking into it/meta help on these wrt volume/amount of content posts D1 in each alignment

Choxorn - 3 posts -
#25 fanfare/Zack for Chancellor
#783 Forgot game started, Reads: Zack still looks good, Town Renata, Cuth, GH. Cuth rep for District One. El Barto / Monty impossible to read. Was going to vote Sooh before she claimed PR. Nil scum reads.
#793 corrects atheotes for district vote.

Al Sipsclar - No posts.

BSmith - 3 posts.
#881 - was offline/catching up
#883Votes just in case/no reading
#884 fluff

Csargo - 3 posts,
Monty Chancellor, Winston Rep, Sooh scum;
comment on brain melting;
Me for Chancellor.

Riedquat - 1 post, voted Visor all colours with a clown. No game related comments.

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Originally Posted by Renata

This about Sooh from someone who just trotted out a patronizing post about how she should always share her thoughts if she thinks she's about to be mislynched, because then at least we can trust they come from a town perspective. No progression. It's just words.

I'm done commenting post by post now because this is getting ridiculous. Either Jabbz is the scummiest scum who ever scummed or we're on totally different wavelengths and always will be. I'll make a proper summary in a couple hours and what will be will be.

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I'm not sure why you took my post to be patronizing. There are two possible situations that exist here, and I addressed both. In one, Sooh is town, feeling stressed and cornered, and no longer wants to contribute. In that instance I want their reads because they will be useful should they be lynched and flip town. I was attempting to be encouraging, if that came out patronizing, it certainly wasn't my intent.

The second situation, which I believe to be more likely, is that Sooh is scum and trying to use that as an out, hence me addressing it in another post. The lovely thing about this is that when/if Sooh is lynched, we find out which is applicable, and no harm is done by entertaining both possibilities. You'll note in the post encouraging Sooh to post that I don't one provide an out or question whether they should swing, just what they should do first.

Unvote

Cass vote cuth with me if you get elected thx

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Originally Posted by Renata

Really? Because I just caught up with them myself and got the sneaking suspicion I'm being ridiculous about Jabbz. At least one of the points I thought I was making actually sucked.

If you mean they look like I'm town, well yeah.

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I also agree with the latter. I feel those posts are coming after me with a preconceived notion of where I'm coming from, IE the perception I'm being condescending, but I didn't feel they were scummy.

Vote: Cuthillius

Just in case

Sorry -- D1 was going to be bad for me because RL important stuff, my presence should improve after today. Trying to get caught up. Should be here in about an hour until EOD.

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Originally Posted by Jabbz

Sorry, post #661. Not sure why I thought that my response was contiguous, but it's more likely related to the fact that it was almost midnight, and I usually am not up that late.

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Thanks. Glad I can set that aside.

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Originally Posted by Renata

TEEE EMMM IIII

You're talking to her like she's an about to be mislynched villager.

LOL @ Monstrbro for calling this villagey.

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THERE WERE OTHER POSTS TOO

you little weasel

You turkey sandwich you

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Originally Posted by Jabbz

No, this is in reference to conflating him with Dp101 early in the game. This is well documented in multiple other posts.

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Yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm being a dope. Ignore me.

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Originally Posted by Renata

Somebody somewhere drew attention to a possible inconsistency in monstr's reads, and I can't find that post again and it's driving me nuts. I could iso Monstr and try that way, but 100+ posts.

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I must find them and slay them with a toy hammer

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Originally Posted by Monstrbro

You turkey sandwich you

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I've never had such a creative insult flung my way. Tell me what you think of choxorn. He's only got a few posts, should be easy to iso.

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Originally Posted by Winston Hughes

Have to say, for all my historical paranoia, Renata's flow and activity does look townie here.

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Renata is Probably Town (tm)

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Originally Posted by Renata

I've never had such a creative insult flung my way. Tell me what you think of choxorn. He's only got a few posts, should be easy to iso.

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Gibe like twenty minutes to eat and shower I just woke up

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Originally Posted by Renata

OK, finally got done reading up on monstrbro. He's got pretty impressive tone and flow. I didn't find the reads inconsistency that I remember someone mentioning; he's good in that regard.

The only single post I had a problem with is 476, where he says it sucks when your biggest wolfread (Monty) has two of the biggest town reads (cass and dp) as his own town reads. This strikes me as possible wolf concerned about consistency -- I don't understand the concern otherwise especially when the reads are so consensus -- but it's not much.

If Monstro is wolf and has a flaw, it's in his lack of confidence on non-town reads compared to his town ones. He's very back and forth on sooh but seems to be leaning town until visor makes his iso-spam, at which point he votes her. As soon as Sooh shows up and starts to AtE he's right back to probably villagery. His other scum read, Monty, is not engaged with much and his latest statement where monty's attack on visor is wolfy but his persistence almost villagery doesn't say much. Keeps talking about possibility the wolves are all in the low posters. To his credit, post 666 criticizing Monty for jumping the gun on sooh's lynch does seem indicative of some ongoing (and hence real) suspicion.

Compare with literally all of his town reads, which are either stated outright as "this is villagery" or progress from minor discomfort to totally villagery in pretty short order (like with winston). I don't know, could be a scum with issues contriving cases.

tl;dr: I could see him as wolf.

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FTR

I'm not up with Monstr's ISO here but ITT the back and forth on Sooh and #467 stood out to me as possible future space for backtracking, not sure if that's what you mean by consistency?

As far as I know, TownMonstr is always stronger on his Town reads, and tends to interact more with them especially early on.

But here is a link to ISO scum game

And here is link to ISO for the game I just subbed in for him as Town.


He's a very good player as either alignment, but in my experience with him more motivated as Town/doesn't like playing Scum.

A couple of the questions he asked here I think showed inquisitive thought process that I could follow/don't hate.
I've noticed a tonal similarity in the scum game to here that could be something or just general personality. Waiting for more.

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Originally Posted by Monstrbro

Gibe like twenty minutes to eat and shower I just woke up

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Speak of the Monstr.

Do you have a Town core?

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Originally Posted by Cass_

I'll give you ....

https://media1.giphy.com/media/r4NFWBPT6ksyQ/giphy.gif

https://media.giphy.com/media/5xaOcL...tVYs/giphy.gif

?

Going to work, ok. Not giving reads because behind 3 pages is meh.

In Hackers you commented as you went afaict so this is a direct contradiction.

Why on Earth would you let us lynch you/not contribute the thoughts you have as a Town PR?

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Cass, combined so far this game I think I've had one hour to spare to play. Do you think I have been able to form reads from that?

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Originally Posted by Visor

Cass vote cuth with me if you get elected thx

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Why do you need my vote if you can double?

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Originally Posted by Cass_

Speak of the Monstr.

Do you have a Town core?

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Same as yesterday

Dp
Renata
Dice
Cass
Visor
Winston
Zack
Sooh(probably because pr claim)

Maybe Schema too but it might just be me wanting her to be a villager for laughing at my joke

I will now proceed to collect my million dollars for every time someone has said "monstr is villagery but he can't pick at scum suspect and stick with it" despite that there are like 15 other waffles in this game

@Dp101 and @dicetosser1

I'm not sure which of you is going to wind up as rep. As your loyal constituent (whichever of you it is), please consider lynching choxorn with extreme prejudice. However, as it looks like Visor is going to have half the vote and will be lynching Cuthilius, you may also wish to consider merely giving in and letting him have his way for the sake of legislative comity and also later ammo to use against Visor if he's wrong and it ever seems warranted. Thank you, and please pass a measure to fix the potholes on my street. They're getting ridiculous.

I would change from a visor rep but I'm not sure I'm comfortable with anyone else in my district yet except winston

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Originally Posted by Monstrbro

I will now proceed to collect my million dollars for every time someone has said "monstr is villagery but he can't pick at scum suspect and stick with it" despite that there are like 15 other waffles in this game

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Noted. A waffle (or otherwise) of a read on Cuthilius would also be nice. He was like the one person in your iso I noticed mentioned but never given a read.

Winston Hughes
BSmith
Visor
Csargo
Riedquat
El Barto
Monstrbro

We got the district of inactivity

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Cass, combined so far this game I think I've had one hour to spare to play. Do you think I have been able to form reads from that?

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Do you have time now?

If so, go do you. Generic claim excluded, I need game stuff on you to actually make a call here.

You still get to keep the kittehs, regardless <3

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Originally Posted by Monstrbro

I would change from a visor rep but I'm not sure I'm comfortable with anyone else in my district yet except winston

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Why would you change?

I'm villagery af

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Originally Posted by Renata

Noted. A waffle (or otherwise) of a read on Cuthilius would also be nice. He was like the one person in your iso I noticed mentioned but never given a read.

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I didn't have one

I said somewhere back I haven't read the full thread and thats still true, I've been isoing to get many of my reads

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Originally Posted by Cass_

Why do you need my vote if you can double?

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If you and dice/dp voted the same person it would presumably be a tie.

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Originally Posted by Monstrbro

I didn't have one

I said somewhere back I haven't read the full thread and thats still true, I've been isoing to get many of my reads

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Winston did an iso on Cuth if you want to give your thoughts on that.

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Originally Posted by Renata

This about Sooh from someone who just trotted out a patronizing post about how she should always share her thoughts if she thinks she's about to be mislynched, because then at least we can trust they come from a town perspective. No progression. It's just words.

I'm done commenting post by post now because this is getting ridiculous. Either Jabbz is the scummiest scum who ever scummed or we're on totally different wavelengths and always will be. I'll make a proper summary in a couple hours and what will be will be.

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I thought the same when I saw it. I'm attempting to catch up.

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Originally Posted by Visor

Why would you change?

I'm villagery af

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Idk, boredom mostly

Partly that I want to be rep now

And partly that THE FEAR is real

But considering I know how you play wolf from super smash mash (slay villagers with extreme prejudice) I'm not worried because I'm sure you'll be obvious by d2 or d3

Vote whoever cass

Just hope the Chancellor can pick well

No chance I'm ever around for eod

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Originally Posted by Visor

We've all seen worse, I just thought she was a good candidate for lynching because of the way she had approached the game. The snark in her replies compared to the zero work she put in was not a good look.

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Sorry for attempting to have some fun to start off the game. Won't happen again.

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Originally Posted by Monstrbro

Idk, boredom mostly

Partly that I want to be rep now

And partly that THE FEAR is real

But considering I know how you play wolf from super smash mash (slay villagers with extreme prejudice) I'm not worried because I'm sure you'll be obvious by d2 or d3

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Fair enough

Glgl

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Sorry for attempting to have some fun to start off the game. Won't happen again.

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Take your pity party and go home

You can.have fun and you can play too

If you spent as much time playing the game instead of providing Snarky replies you wouldnt be up for lynching

Okok I will shower eat then iso and read choxorn and cuth

See you cats in a freckle past a hair

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Originally Posted by Cass_

FTR

I'm not up with Monstr's ISO here but ITT the back and forth on Sooh and #467 stood out to me as possible future space for backtracking, not sure if that's what you mean by consistency?

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Not really, I mean more like self-consciousness like 'oh wow I have the same reads as the guy I'm saying is my top scum, could that look suspicious'?

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Sorry for attempting to have some fun to start off the game. Won't happen again.

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Please don't be like that. :(

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Originally Posted by Cass_

Do you have time now?

If so, go do you. Generic claim excluded, I need game stuff on you to actually make a call here.

You still get to keep the kittehs, regardless <3

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I'm trying, except this is like the least fun ever.

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Originally Posted by Renata

Not really, I mean more like self-consciousness like 'oh wow I have the same reads as the guy I'm saying is my top scum, could that look suspicious'?

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No that post was "oh I have the same reads as the guy I'm suspecting. Could that mean I'm wrong?"

I'm drawing way too much attention to myself to care about looking suspicious

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Originally Posted by Sooh

I'm trying, except this is like the least fun ever.

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But I'm monstrman </3

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Originally Posted by Visor

Vote: Cuthillius

Just in case

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Visor, do you have an updated list of reads?

Where are the holes in mine?

Your input on meta wrt low posters also appreciated.

One thing sticking with me about skim through with you is the being 'infuriated' at Cuth ... I don't get it.

Where are you at on Monty? I can't read him and trying to figure out whether his insistent push on you without explanation is Town/Scum is driving me nuts.

What makes Cuth a better vote than him or the players you voted/pushed earlier?

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Originally Posted by Sooh

I thought the same when I saw it. I'm attempting to catch up.

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Good luck. Embarrassingly I've decided for the moment that I'm being stupid about Jabbz and have moved him up into a low-town tier for the day.

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Originally Posted by Renata

Good luck. Embarrassingly I've decided for the moment that I'm being stupid about Jabbz and have moved him up into a low-town tier for the day.

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Oh sure but you can just lolmonstrman about village reading him no problem :,(

Also I lied about showering and eating I don't want to get out of bed yet so I'll do ISOs instead

Does anyone have current tallies for all vote areas?

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Originally Posted by Choxorn

My fellow Earthicans! Today, we face many crises, from the alcohol-guzzling robots worsening global warming, to the threat of invasion from the Omicron Persei Eightians, to that ominous looking rip in the universe, to time travel paradoxes. Only one man is qualified to lead us against these struggles. I present to you: The Mighty and Fabulously Sexy Zaccino!

Vote: Zack

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Serious post indicating some level of reading the OP

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Originally Posted by Choxorn

Oh shit I totally forgot the game had started

lolchox

I've been spending the past couple of hours reading through the thread trying to catch up. Don't have a lot of good reads on anyone yet, lots of people I'm totally unfamiliar with. Zack still looks good, I'll keep my chancellor vote on him. Slight town reads on Renata, Cuth, and GH. Speaking of which, Vote: Cuth for District One. El Barto and Monty are still impossible to read, and while I don't want that to be an excuse that lets them whomp us like they did last game, I also don't want to reflexively vote them just for last game either. Sooh I was going to vote before she claimed PR. I still don't like her, and I echo what Zack said about her here:



I also hate generic PR claims and don't see what the point is of soft-claiming and trying to string everyone along unless you have some kind of uber-secret mafia-killing thing of doom going on, and it would be an easy claim to lie about because you're not being specific, and I don't like how she's reacted to pressure, but I also don't think she's scum for it.

No real opinion yet on most people.

Last, but not least:



https://media.tenor.co/images/e7a5ef...b66008c617/raw

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"OMG when did the game start?"

???

Actually I think that's a reading comprehension fail on my part. Anyway, the biggest thing here I can note is that the district vote on cuth seems like it's w/w if choxorn is a wolf but meaningless if villager

Three posts don't seem particularly alignment indicative but if anything I think the way he's approaching certain people like echoing Zack's sentiment just flow really well so if anything I guess lightly villagery but only barely

Listen. There are 934 posts so far this game. If I'm going to go back and read them thoroughly it'll take me more than the 2 1/2 hours that are left until EOD. I can catch up overnight if I'm still alive, but that's a big IF. I'll try for the time that's left to get as far as I can, so that I can at least have some informed votes at EOD.

FTR
First time I posted this game was right after it begun. I was snarky and having fun, or at least I thought so. Next time I came in the majority was mechanics talk, and I gave my opinions on that, as well as commented on whatever I saw that I felt like commenting on. Sometimes just a fun quip, sometimes a thought.
Since then I've been pretty much up to my neck in Christmas preparations, sleep and work. I have been given ZERO leeway this game, compared to others who have barely posted.

tl:dr
Lynch me if you want.

I have claimed that I have a PR, but I have not claimed what yet. I was actually worried about revealing too much when I spoke to Atheotes when he was PR fishing earlier.

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Originally Posted by Choxorn

My fellow Earthicans! Today, we face many crises, from the alcohol-guzzling robots worsening global warming, to the threat of invasion from the Omicron Persei Eightians, to that ominous looking rip in the universe, to time travel paradoxes. Only one man is qualified to lead us against these struggles. I present to you: The Mighty and Fabulously Sexy Zaccino!

Vote: Zack

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Listen. There are 934 posts so far this game. If I'm going to go back and read them thoroughly it'll take me more than the 2 1/2 hours that are left until EOD. I can catch up overnight if I'm still alive, but that's a big IF. I'll try for the time that's left to get as far as I can, so that I can at least have some informed votes at EOD.

FTR
First time I posted this game was right after it begun. I was snarky and having fun, or at least I thought so. Next time I came in the majority was mechanics talk, and I gave my opinions on that, as well as commented on whatever I saw that I felt like commenting on. Sometimes just a fun quip, sometimes a thought.
Since then I've been pretty much up to my neck in Christmas preparations, sleep and work. I have been given ZERO leeway this game, compared to others who have barely posted.

tl:dr
Lynch me if you want.

I have claimed that I have a PR, but I have not claimed what yet. I was actually worried about revealing too much when I spoke to Atheotes when he was PR fishing earlier.

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What posts of atheotes felt like pr fishing to you?

Im sorry you're not having fun but I want you to

Gdi I know exactly how you feel and I hate it so much

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Originally Posted by Monstrbro

Actually I think that's a reading comprehension fail on my part. Anyway, the biggest thing here I can note is that the district vote on cuth seems like it's w/w if choxorn is a wolf but meaningless if villager

Three posts don't seem particularly alignment indicative but if anything I think the way he's approaching certain people like echoing Zack's sentiment just flow really well so if anything I guess lightly villagery but only barely

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Mmm, I disagree. The third post which you didn't include is of him lecturing Jabbz on not doing word walls for the space of about 100 words -- that's just a really pointless thing to focus on IMO but I guess in certain lights it could have the appearance of being useful.

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Originally Posted by Monstrbro

What posts of atheotes felt like pr fishing to you?

Im sorry you're not having fun but I want you to

Gdi I know exactly how you feel and I hate it so much

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He was talking about how I believe Monty mentioned PR and said something to the effect of "But there aren't any PRs this game, are there?" and then he explained how he thought Monty talking about PRs was evidence that Monty had TMI.

Early, like pg 3-5 somewhere.

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Originally Posted by atheotes

:inquisitive: No PRs in the game right?

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Idk. OPs don't really give any clues.

Fishing attempt noted though :P

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Originally Posted by atheotes

yes..the eulogy(?) was not game related.(it was good, GH :2thumbsup:) i was judging his votes only based on his posts.



:stare: fishing? i was questioning if Monty was showing TMI!!!

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Here's the exchange.

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Originally Posted by Renata

Mmm, I disagree. The third post which you didn't include is of him lecturing Jabbz on not doing word walls for the space of about 100 words -- that's just a really pointless thing to focus on IMO but I guess in certain lights it could have the appearance of being useful.

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Pointless sure but a pointless post does not a wolf make

Speaking probability most people are a villager most of the time

I'm a bit concerned that Winston is voting El Barto over players he's pushed/commented on more.

Monty/Sooh/Cuth

Is this a thing?

Will pull quotes but as far as I can tell (correct me if I'm wrong @Winston Hughes) his stance on El Barto is 'he's scummy and self-preservationy' and his pushes against Monty/Sooh/Cuth have more depth.

I'm not saying Barto isn't scummy, but I've found him scummy and self-preservationy when he's been Town.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

He was talking about how I believe Monty mentioned PR and said something to the effect of "But there aren't any PRs this game, are there?" and then he explained how he thought Monty talking about PRs was evidence that Monty had TMI.

Early, like pg 3-5 somewhere.

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Noted and on the list for after my cuth iso.

I just wanted to see what was happening in real time for a minute

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Originally Posted by Renata

Aww, you're trending up for me too. Symbolic-vote choxorn with me if your vote is not otherwise usefully occupied. I'm trending lolRenata on Jabbz and want to roll with that for a while.

vote: choxorn

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ok then...vote: choxorn

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Originally Posted by Renata

Good to know I guess, because he's really different from his scum game last time out.

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Dont take the last game as the barometer...he was very different in that. As i said during that game, it was the first time i could comprehend what he was saying.
Now he is back to his old self. he is also refusing to give reads.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Here's the exchange.

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It's things like these that make me never want to post stuff about my PR reads that I have even though the reason I hesitated on voting you was because I thought you were a PR

That's why I have DP so strongly as a villager because literally everything he said about "I need to trust myself more"

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Originally Posted by Monstrbro

It's things like these that make me never want to post stuff about my PR reads that I have even though the reason I hesitated on voting you was because I thought you were a PR

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Huh?

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Originally Posted by Cass_

I'm a bit concerned that Winston is voting El Barto over players he's pushed/commented on more.

Monty/Sooh/Cuth

Is this a thing?

Will pull quotes but as far as I can tell (correct me if I'm wrong @Winston Hughes) his stance on El Barto is 'he's scummy and self-preservationy' and his pushes against Monty/Sooh/Cuth have more depth.

I'm not saying Barto isn't scummy, but I've found him scummy and self-preservationy when he's been Town.

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My vote won't be counting here, and El Barto has done nothing to deserve its removal.

I mean, I could wave it around at people for emphasis, but I couldn't be much clearer about who I suspect.

Help me? Pick out some posts for me that you think I should see and I'll give you my comments on them. Might be faster than me trudging through by myself.

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Huh?

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Villagers can have PR reads too but the default reaction to a question about a PR is "that's rolefishing"

I had you as a pr read. That's why I kept defending-but-not-defending you when visor kept saying you were a wolf

But when he finally put your ISO out I just stopped listening to myself

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Originally Posted by Sooh

Help me? Pick out some posts for me that you think I should see and I'll give you my comments on them. Might be faster than me trudging through by myself.

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Okok I will

Okok will do

Name a player and I'll help you team iso them

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Originally Posted by dicetosser1

I am REALLY tempted to lynch you anyway.

unvote vote montmerency

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Why did you unvote GH just because he townread you?

That was odd

Free shrugs thought

Isoing cuth

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Originally Posted by Monstrbro

Okok I will

Okok will do

Name a player and I'll help you team iso them

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I'm open to suggestions, but Atheotes is someone I've been wanting to ISO.

People are saying he's towny, want to see if I can see it.

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Originally Posted by Monstrbro

Pointless sure but a pointless post does not a wolf make

Speaking probability most people are a villager most of the time

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Coming from someone who has zero wolves right now I'll take that with as many grains of salt as required.

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Originally Posted by Renata

If you and dice/dp voted the same person it would presumably be a tie.

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Actually, Cuth is in the lead. and he will be voting for Visor.

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Originally Posted by Cass_

I'm a bit concerned that Winston is voting El Barto over players he's pushed/commented on more.

Monty/Sooh/Cuth

Is this a thing?

Will pull quotes but as far as I can tell (correct me if I'm wrong @Winston Hughes) his stance on El Barto is 'he's scummy and self-preservationy' and his pushes against Monty/Sooh/Cuth have more depth.

I'm not saying Barto isn't scummy, but I've found him scummy and self-preservationy when he's been Town.

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No, you're right. I'm still reading Winston as towny, but his vote doesn't have much to it at this point. That said, he could be right.

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Originally Posted by atheotes

Actually, Cuth is in the lead. and he will be voting for Visor.

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Really, since when? Who the heck vote for him besides himself?

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

cass is able to vomit questions and analysis walls as scum

i don't think her tone is scum here but i do think mechanical stuff or whatever analysis and exam you're talking about is not really that valid at this stage of the game

and i fail to see how it's really much better than the case for zack

who i think is more likely to be around consistently and be able to lead town and interact with people in a manner that we need

what time is eod again

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Originally Posted by Cuthillius

meh i disagree with the case on sooh

i think it's bad

i think she's always utr

and i think visor is making a subpar push on him

his play is very similar to the hydra game i think

didn't read the last three pages, but i did ctrl+f my name

and saw glimpses

monstr is trending up a little

i still trust zack over cass

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Posts like these that reassess the top townreads in the game always make me think that the play is too bold to come from a wolf and always make me think someone is a villager because it just draws so much attention to the slot